Comics The '07 X-Event: Endangered Species, Messiah Complex, & Disassembled

summary of x-factor 27
The X-Men, X-Force, and X-Factor use Cerebra to track Gambit (and the rest of the Marauders) back to their current hideout on Muir Isle. What they don't know is that Gambit let them track him. Lady Mastermind attempts to use her powers to hide the Marauders, but Wolverine's sense of smell gives away her position, and he stabs her in the chest fatally.
Madrox and Layla meet a young Bishop in the future and find out that the mutant baby is responsible for killing over one million baseline humans, fulfilling Stryker's prophecy of a "mutant antichrist." This causes the United States government to round up the remaining mutants and put them into camps. Young Bishop says that if he has a chance that he would go back in time and kill the kid. Layla then kills the Madrox dupe. In the present, Madrox Prime awakens and tells the Stepford Cuckoos to warn Emma of Bishop's treachery. Outside, the New X-Men discover Predator X has arrived at the mansion, and is eating the remains of victims from the bus attack.
Back on Muir Isle, Gambit slips away from the brawl with the baby in tow while the X-Men fight the Marauders and the Acolytes. He presents the baby to Sinister, who changes into Mystique. The real Sinister is on the floor on the floor in a pool of his own blood, apparently dead with a shock etched into his face.
i am really going to love this issue.
 
A bit of a twist... so an X-man is still set to die the follow issue - so let's get the wagers in
 
DJSCARLET said:
summary of x-factor 27
The X-Men, X-Force, and X-Factor use Cerebra to track Gambit (and the rest of the Marauders) back to their current hideout on Muir Isle. What they don't know is that Gambit let them track him. Lady Mastermind attempts to use her powers to hide the Marauders, but Wolverine's sense of smell gives away her position, and he stabs her in the chest fatally.
Madrox and Layla meet a young Bishop in the future and find out that the mutant baby is responsible for killing over one million baseline humans, fulfilling Stryker's prophecy of a "mutant antichrist." This causes the United States government to round up the remaining mutants and put them into camps. Young Bishop says that if he has a chance that he would go back in time and kill the kid. Layla then kills the Madrox dupe. In the present, Madrox Prime awakens and tells the Stepford Cuckoos to warn Emma of Bishop's treachery. Outside, the New X-Men discover Predator X has arrived at the mansion, and is eating the remains of victims from the bus attack.
Back on Muir Isle, Gambit slips away from the brawl with the baby in tow while the X-Men fight the Marauders and the Acolytes. He presents the baby to Sinister, who changes into Mystique. The real Sinister is on the floor on the floor in a pool of his own blood, apparently dead with a shock etched into his face.
i am really going to love this issue.
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looks like a good issue... and first time we've seen mystique use her power in a while... lol
 
Question.

How is it known Gambit drew them there deliberately? Preview panels have the Cuckoos saying he's easy to track because he's so emo.
 
Canemacar said:
Question.

How is it known Gambit drew them there deliberately? Preview panels have the Cuckoos saying he's easy to track because he's so emo.
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Man.... someone, anyone answer this question in a way that makes sense

How the **** can Mystique possibly EVER take down Sinister?
 
OutcryX said:
Man.... someone, anyone answer this question in a way that makes sense

How the **** can Mystique possibly EVER take down Sinister?
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I'm not sure if it's confirmed that Mystique is the one that kills him. But if it is, then it must be similar to how she killed him in X-men: The End.
 
ya, it was thinking that too... they should come up with a story that wasnt taken from the the end books jk
 
Canemacar said:
Question.

How is it known Gambit drew them there deliberately? Preview panels have the Cuckoos saying he's easy to track because he's so emo.
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I don't know why that amuses me but it does.

Hey, Canemacer, I think both of your fav characters (Gambit & Spider-Man) will become less emo in 2008.
 
OutcryX said:
Man.... someone, anyone answer this question in a way that makes sense

How the **** can Mystique possibly EVER take down Sinister?
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Well seeing as how Marvel currently thinks...

That Mystique is so uber Roxor, I'm not surprised. Though I wouldn't doubt that there's still yet another layer of deception hidden in this somewhere... On either Mystique or Sinister's part.

But hey, who here called that Gambit would swipe the baby from the Marauders at some point? :woot:
 
Canemacar said:
Question.

How is it known Gambit drew them there deliberately? Preview panels have the Cuckoos saying he's easy to track because he's so emo.
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Someone came up with the idea that his mind is still screwed up because of the whole DEATH thing where is mind got f**k up. Even after being changed back to Gambit, Sinister might not have been able to fully rid Gambit of DEATH.
 
What happens when someone’s past is our future, yet he lives in the present? Sounds like some time-traveling is in order, which is what X-Factor teammates Jaime and Layla have done in order to speak with a time-displaced member of the X-Men in his youth.

Sound confusing? Well, if you’ve read Marvel's “Uncanny X-Men” #494, it should make perfect sense – but still leave you with a lot more questions. Thankfully, X-Editor Nick Lowe is here to preview exclusive pages from this week's "X-Factor" #27 and respond to the many emails you’ve sent my way.There were loads of intriguing “Messiah CompleX” theories on characters’ actions and the baby, so let’s get to them!

SPOILERS AHOY!

Our first question comes from Giggity, who is curious if one of the X-Men was falling down on their duties in light of last issue’s revelations. “Can’t Emma read minds? Wouldn’t she be able to tell Bishop a traitor? Or is she just not looking?”</SPAN>

Emma can indeed read minds. But you try reading Bishop’s mind and see where that gets you. But for real, Giggity, Bishop is too experienced to go to all this trouble and not either develop a way to mask his thoughts or acquire tech to block his mind. I mean, come on, this is a guy who trained himself to know exactly where he is and what time it is at all times. For real. Look it up. I don’t know why that’s useful, but he’s done it.

Bishop is a human GPS! And as long as we’re talking about his abilities, Andre4000 had a question about the character’s mutant powers. “Bishop can absorb energy and redirect it, correct? Wouldn’t he be able to absorb Sunfire’s power? And why does it seem that he never uses his power?”

Bishop’s powers are very complicated. I think he did absorb some of it, but it still burns him. As for why he never uses the powers, he does from time to time, but you have to imagine it takes a lot out of him, so it’s understandable why he’d use something like a gun.

And in case you’re curious, the size of the gun isn’t a form of Bishop trying to compensate.

Here’s another query about powers from Brazilionnaire. This one concerns our favorite multiple-making mutant Madrox (say that five times fast!).

“I'm kind of confused as to the nature of Madrox's powers. Can his dupes make their own dupes, or do they only come from Madrox prime? Additionally, when the Master Chief look-alikes from the future use the power dampener on the Jamie dupe, shouldn't he have disappeared along with the others?”

You aren’t the only one, Brazilionaire. Jamie’s powers are indeed mysterious. But his dupes have been known to make dupes of themselves.

As for why the dupe doesn’t just disappear when the dampener was turned on, there are a few ways to reason this out, you pick your favorite:

1) A dampener doesn’t stop powers from ever being used. If you used a dampener on a pre-“M-Day” Marrow, it wouldn’t cause her bone knives to disappear.
2) The person who used the power is 80 years away, so he’s not affected by it.
3) The dupes are people in and of themselves, so they can’t be affected like this.

Next up, dddeity wanted some clarification on the emotional rollercoaster that Warpath is riding. “Why was James so worried about Hepzibah? Because of what happened to Caliban?”

You are exactly right on the why, dddeity. He’s got feelings for your favorite cat/skunk lady. He doesn’t want her to get hurt. She’s pretty much all he’s got left.

I have never thought of Hepzibah as a skunk until now. I feel a Pepe le Pew joke creeping up, so let’s move on quickly.

Creyes had a few questions about Bishop and his perspective on the mutant baby…

1) From the events in this issue, it would seem that the baby grows up to be the dictator that locks all mutants up and creates the horrible future Jaime and Layla are trapped in. If that’s the case, wouldn’t they be better off letting Bishop kill the baby in the present?

I don’t want to give away details here, but I’m going to go ahead and bet that, no matter what, Cyclops isn’t just going to optic blast any baby, much less the first mutant baby and hope for the species.

2) Are Bishop and Cable’s futures so different, that the baby means something good in one of their futures (where Cable needs to save the baby) while in the other, it means something horrible (and thus, Bishop needs to kill it)?

You might be onto something here, Creyes.

3) And considering they Bishop and Cable both know their futures diverge, how can they each be so sure of where this baby will take mutantkind?

It comes down to what you are willing to risk. You’ll see more of Bishop’s motives as the series goes on. At that point you can judge this for yourself, I think.

On the subject of motives, Manolinator was wondering about Cable’s actions on the final pages of the last “Uncanny” issue.
“Cable contacting the Professor left a lot of questions in my mind. Why does Nate think Xavier will listen to him better than his own father? Is there anything Xavier knows about the future (or the baby) that will prove particularly helpful?”

Xavier doesn’t know anything about the future (except that bald will always be beautiful). As to why Nate would contact Xavier instead of Cyclops, he does have his reasons. It is probably tied to why he didn’t contact the X-Men in the first place.

Red Lotus sent in a couple of questions regarding MC’s bad guys, including some who used to be good guys. It’s just so hard to tell anymore…

1) Gambit questioning why Bishop would turn on the X-Men was a good way for the character to question his own actions. How much does Sinister trust that he and Gambit are on the same page?

I don’t think Sinister trusts anyone much. The guy’s so powerful, I don’t think he’s too scared of betrayal.

2) Are there any plans for Sinister and the Marauders post-“Messiah CompleX?”

At least one Marauder has plans after the crossover.

Eric-Michael Bauer is a thinker, and the thought he “thunk” is a doozy: “With all of the focus on the new mutant baby, wouldn’t it be a crucial step in the equation – particularly for Beast – to find the parents of this baby?”

That’s something we wrestled with a lot, Eric. As of right now, there hasn’t been much time to look into this and the life-or-death situations involved in the story take priority. But, rest assured, that story will be told.

When that occurs, might I suggest the title “Oedipal CompleX?”
The next query comes from Dionne, who was looking for some Layla-love. “As far as ‘Messiah CompleX’ is concerned, is Layla only meant to be Jamie's wing-man (-girl), or is her role more reminiscent of the one she held in ‘House of M?’”

She’s mainly Jamie’s wing-girl. But her power to know stuff will come in handy.

Dionne also sent in a theory that would explain why Layla “knows stuff.” And when you tie this into the fact that Cerebra flickers in and out on the baby’s identity – and that the future mutant scanners had a hard time picking up Layla – well, it makes a lot of sense. I’ll allow Dionne to explain:

“Even though I've been hoping that ‘Messiah CompleX’ would somehow give our beloved Jean Grey an opening for a return, I noticed that while the baby girl has green eyes, she has a little shock of blonde hair. These are also the highly-prominent features of a currently time-displaced force of chaos (by the name of Layla). Anything to this?”

I wouldn’t call that hair blond. At least strawberry blond. Trust me. I know hair.

In light of that response, Fam.de Boer suggests another possibility regarding the baby’s identity:

“Since the crossover is called ‘Messiah CompleX’ and a baby has been born, can we assume any similarities between the baby and the Biblical events? Since, in the Bible, the baby is God reincarnated, can we assume this baby is also something bigger than the eye can see?

I think you can assume there’s more to the baby than meets the eye.

“Of course it’s a powerful mutant, but can it be a Celestial? This makes sense to me because they were the ones who created the dormant structure in the human DNA so one day mutants would rise.”

It’s certainly not a Celestial. They’re gigantic and metal (or at least are metal housing). I think you meant Eternal. But that’s a negative on this one, Fam. Mutant.

“Franklin Richard was said to have power-levels close to the Celestials. And Death told Jean that mutants would one day evolve to a point that they would replace the fundamental beings of the universe (including the Celestials). Am I onto something?”

Sorry, but no. But I wish that the baby were a Celestial. Then it would have looked like this:

TheREALbaby.jpg


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Canemacar said:
Question.

How is it known Gambit drew them there deliberately? Preview panels have the Cuckoos saying he's easy to track because he's so emo.
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Can...

Obviously I don't have the book yet, but I'd hazard to guess that Gambit would draw the Cuckoos there by purposefully broadcasting his thoughts and emo ramblings at a higher level.

He, after all, would know that the X-Men would be more likely to search for a familiar mind.
 
iamlegend said:
Can...

Obviously I don't have the book yet, but I'd hazard to guess that Gambit would draw the Cuckoos there by purposefully broadcasting his thoughts and emo ramblings at a higher level.

He, after all, would know that the X-Men would be more likely to search for a familiar mind.
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After the Cuckoos located Gambit, they said the following:

"Gambit. He was the easiest."

"His mind cries out to us. He's so Lost...So Lost"

"Pity he doesn't know it."

They make it seem like his mind is still messed up after the Death incident.
 
spiderfan85 said:
After the Cuckoos located Gambit, they said the following:

"Gambit. He was the easiest."

"His mind cries out to us. He's so Lost...So Lost"

"Pity he doesn't know it."

They make it seem like his mind is still messed up after the Death incident.
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I didn't read all the spoilers but I did read this one and it gave me hope for the guy. :)
 
DJSCARLET said:
summary of x-factor 27
The X-Men, X-Force, and X-Factor use Cerebra to track Gambit (and the rest of the Marauders) back to their current hideout on Muir Isle. What they don't know is that Gambit let them track him. Lady Mastermind attempts to use her powers to hide the Marauders, but Wolverine's sense of smell gives away her position, and he stabs her in the chest fatally.
Madrox and Layla meet a young Bishop in the future and find out that the mutant baby is responsible for killing over one million baseline humans, fulfilling Stryker's prophecy of a "mutant antichrist." This causes the United States government to round up the remaining mutants and put them into camps. Young Bishop says that if he has a chance that he would go back in time and kill the kid. Layla then kills the Madrox dupe. In the present, Madrox Prime awakens and tells the Stepford Cuckoos to warn Emma of Bishop's treachery. Outside, the New X-Men discover Predator X has arrived at the mansion, and is eating the remains of victims from the bus attack.
Back on Muir Isle, Gambit slips away from the brawl with the baby in tow while the X-Men fight the Marauders and the Acolytes. He presents the baby to Sinister, who changes into Mystique. The real Sinister is on the floor on the floor in a pool of his own blood, apparently dead with a shock etched into his face.
i am really going to love this issue.
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:eek: Well, stuff a cock in me and call me a *****. I take it back, MC is awesome!
 
spiderfan85 said:
After the Cuckoos located Gambit, they said the following:

"Gambit. He was the easiest."

"His mind cries out to us. He's so Lost...So Lost"

"Pity he doesn't know it."

They make it seem like his mind is still messed up after the Death incident.
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Yes, but...

The reported full spoiler someone posted above noted that Gambit drew the X-men to Muir on PURPOSE. So I was hypothesizing how he'd do it.
 
I found it interesting that :
...Gambit wasn't too surprised to see Sinister dead. Was he in on that killing? Or was that just a Sinister clone and not the real guy at all?
 
squeekness said:
I found it interesting that :
...Gambit wasn't too surprised to see Sinister dead. Was he in on that killing? Or was that just a Sinister clone and not the real guy at all?
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Well...

We just have to wait and see, I suppose. There HAS to be a second, third, or even fourth level of deception regarding what they showed at the end of X-Factor. I mean, look at the three players at the end. Gambit, Mystique, and Sinister. They're three of the most secretive and sneaky characters active in the books right now, so something's definitely up. As to what it could be... I'm not quite sure.

But I'll wager that Gambit's involvement has more to do with Rogue than any kind of hypothetical world saving (since we don't know exactly what the baby does yet). He's never been the biggest believe in that stuff, and he and Rogue DO wind up together in X-Men: Legacy.
 
when i read it i just thought
it sounded really similar to the end, if it does have something to do with rogue, then i am not surprised that Mystique and Gambit killed Sinister
 
Maybe...
It was a Sinister Skrull!!
Hahah kidding... hopefully...
 
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