"The action was great, but the plot sucked!, Movies with the Reverse

[Lobo]

 

[I Am The Knight]

^ Out of those three, TIH was the one with more action--I think

Nope. TDK was the one with the most action. Not the best, but the most.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

Bay should stop directing and start working as an action sequence consultant.. or something like that. Keep him away from the director's chair. Or any chair, for that matter.

I would rather Michael Bay just stay a producer. He's no good as a director and he couldn't make a decent action scene to save his life.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Spider-man and Batman Begins are definitely on this list for me. I liked the origin of Peter Parker and Bruce Wayne but once they become Spider-man and Batman their movies go downhill and it's mainly because of the action sequences.

Spider-man's action sequences with The Goblin were mostly stationary and had boring fist fights. I had pictured these guys raging through the city with Spidey showing his agility and speed and the Goblin showing off his weaponry (ala Peter vs. Harry in SM3). Instead we get Spider-man vs. Goblin in a burning building...yippee. The Time Square battle had a Hollywood backdrop feel and never really moves anywhere either. The end battle is basically the same...another fist fight in a stationary location.

Batman Begins had action that was just edited poorly, period. It's like Nolan went to the Michael Bay school of editing or something. He got a little better with framing and editing in TDK but the convoy chase still had a Michael Bay feel to it. There was nothing cohesive about that scene whatsoever.

Interesting. I do feel that some of the Batman action sequences leave something to be desired. I was watching TDK & it's like so much of the action is obscured from our view. We can't really see what's going on with the Batman wanna-be's, I still don't know exactly how Joker killed Gambol, & when the bank exec comes out blasting, at first we think the next-to-last henchman gets shot in the face or something. Only after Joker takes care of the exec, do we find out it's a shoulder wound.

 

[[A]]

Interesting. I do feel that some of the Batman action sequences leave something to be desired. I was watching TDK & it's like so much of the action is obscured from our view. We can't really see what's going on with the Batman wanna-be's, I still don't know exactly how Joker killed Gambol, & when the bank exec comes out blasting, at first we think the next-to-last henchman gets shot in the face or something. Only after Joker takes care of the exec, do we find out it's a shoulder wound.

You can blame the rating for that one

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Interesting. I do feel that some of the Batman action sequences leave something to be desired. I was watching TDK & it's like so much of the action is obscured from our view. We can't really see what's going on with the Batman wanna-be's, I still don't know exactly how Joker killed Gambol, & when the bank exec comes out blasting, at first we think the next-to-last henchman gets shot in the face or something. Only after Joker takes care of the exec, do we find out it's a shoulder.

I think if they showed that it would no way get a pg-13/12a rating. I reckon he snapped his neck as he cut him, you don't die instantly from a slash to the face.

And yea I think Grumpy takes a flesh wound to the shoulder or something.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Are you two related?

 

[Chris Wallace]

I have seen not one but 2 Goblins brutally impaled in PG-13 movies; what could Joker have done with a knife that was worse than that?
Okay-a lot. Like Punisher did that one henchman, stabbing him through his chin. But surely there's a middle ground that would make for a plausible death & make the manner in which he was dispatched a little clearer.

 

[The Joker]

I have seen not one but 2 Goblins brutally impaled in PG-13 movies; what could Joker have done with a knife that was worse than that?

He had the knife in Gambol's mouth. Use your imagination.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Are you two related?

 

[[A]]

I have seen not one but 2 Goblins brutally impaled in PG-13 movies; what could Joker have done with a knife that was worse than that?
Okay-a lot. Like Punisher did that one henchman, stabbing him through his chin. But surely there's a middle ground that would make for a plausible death & make the manner in which he was dispatched a little clearer.

I remember that one; nicely done. What was the rating of Punisher 04?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I have seen not one but 2 Goblins brutally impaled in PG-13 movies; what could Joker have done with a knife that was worse than that?
Okay-a lot. Like Punisher did that one henchman, stabbing him through his chin. But surely there's a middle ground that would make for a plausible death & make the manner in which he was dispatched a little clearer.

He had the knife in Gambol's mouth. Use your imagination.

Yea some one being stabbed in the neck or face is little bit more brutal than someone in armour being impaled. You can't get away with showing someones face getting cut open without showing a lot of blood, the way the Goblins died you can.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

He had the knife in Gambol's mouth. Use your imagination.

I love TDK too but you dont die from getting your cheek slashed, painful? Yes, critical? NO.

 

[[A]]

I love TDK too but you dont die from getting your cheek slashed, painful? Yes, critical? NO.

Perhaps Gambol's not dead? Perhaps he just went to hell and back.. and.. no, wait. Oh nevermind But yeat, I mean, Dent had half his face burned and he continued to live

 

[The Joker]

I love TDK too but you dont die from getting your cheek slashed, painful? Yes, critical? NO.

How do we know he slashed his cheek? Maybe he stabbed him in the back of the throat. Maybe he shoved the knife into the roof of his mouth. Maybe he slashed his throat.

Who knows? Never saw it. That's what I like about it. Leaves it to your imagination.

 

[WeaponXProject]

I have seen not one but 2 Goblins brutally impaled in PG-13 movies; what could Joker have done with a knife that was worse than that?

I can see your point. I thought the same thing when I saw AVP 1, (which is a plight against humanity it was so bad). One of the aliens used his extra mouth thing in and stabbed it into the Predator's brain through his mask. Lime green blood, or firefly blood, was squirting out. I was confused. I remember the movie being PG-13. I guess if they are not human its no big deal to the rating's board.

I also think it has to do with the situation and whether or not it would make people cringe. THat TDK scene made me cringe where the scenes in LOTR are so far fantasy for me that it didn't bother me. It's such a subjective issue that it's hard to say what is worse.



As for another movie with a great plot and piss poor action I will say I, Robot. Well, that movie sucked altogether compared to the book.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

How do we know he slashed his cheek? Maybe he stabbed him in the back of the throat. Maybe he shoved the knife into the roof of his mouth. Maybe he slashed his throat.

Who knows? Never saw it. That's what I like about it. Leaves it to your imagination.

The knife was very small and was in his mouth, plus The Jokers hand went in a side-ways motion, looks to me like he just slashed his cheek, never really liked that bit to be honest.

 

[[A]]

As for another movie with a great plot and piss poor action I will say I, Robot. Well, that movie sucked altogether compared to the book.

Agh don't remind me. The movie's kinda ok but I hate it when they buy the rights and use only the names. They totally butchered the Susan Calvin character

 

[WeaponXProject]

Agh don't remind me. The movie's kinda ok but I hate it when they buy the rights and use only the names. They totally butchered the Susan Calvin character

I thought I would throw it in because that movie was Will Smith'd and I will still never forgive him for I Am Legend. How could you do that so bad?


I think Ang Lee's Hulk had a great plot and terrible action sequences. Terrible scene witht the pooches and him jumping a mile at a time in the desert. As for the acting and the plot, I liked Ang Lee's plot better.

 

[[A]]

^ and the fights with the dogs were supposed to be a lot longer

 

[WeaponXProject]

^ and the fights with the dogs were supposed to be a lot longer

And they exploded into green dust. Wow....

 

[GhostPoet]

oh oh! I got one!

The Transporter (the first one). Lame story...but the action was fantastic.

 

[Majik1387]

No GhostPoet.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I thought I would throw it in because that movie was Will Smith'd and I will still never forgive him for I Am Legend. How could you do that so bad?


I think Ang Lee's Hulk had a great plot and terrible action sequences. Terrible scene witht the pooches and him jumping a mile at a time in the desert. As for the acting and the plot, I liked Ang Lee's plot better.

You do know this is one of The Hulk's main abilities dont you?

 

[Chris Wallace]

And they exploded into green dust. Wow....

Unstable mutation+PG-13 rating=disintegration.