The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 5

[socool]

Especially when this film was supposed to launch its Spideyverse of spinoffs.

Ugh, I am not looking forward to these. Hope Sony notices the hole they're slowly digging and changes their plan here.

 

[Wildcard]

Ugh, I am not looking forward to these. Hope Sony notices the hole they're slowly digging and changes their plan here.

Agreed. That whole idea sounded like one big mess.

I'm still amazed (no pun intended) that this movie hasn't even made $200 million domestically. That should really make Sony realize that they need to step it up for part three.

And maybe they won't pour so much money into the next one either. But, it's Sony & not many, if any of their decisions have been on the wise side lately so we'll see.

 

[Wildcard]

This film has currently earned more money worldwide than WB's Man of Steel. That's encouraging. t:

Haha exept it's not. Including marketing costs & everything else, TASM 2 cost between $400-500 million altogether, & it is crawling to a $700 million worldwide gross with not even $200 million having been made domestically.

Now, MoS did cost a lot, but looking at the numbers it was more PROFITABLE than TASM 2 will ultimately be. So, just because the latter has a bigger number means absolutely nothing at all when you factor in all the variables.

 

[spiderman2]

Spidey just isn't as popular anymore & people (GA) are burnt out on it plus there is a shorter time frame each & every time between theatrical & home video release that people are just waiting til then to see it.

Not true people are just tired of what is being looked at has bad movies. If the last 3 spider man movies had been a lot better recived then we would be seeing billion or more spider man movies and we wouldn't be having this issue. The fait that asm1 being a reboot and a reboot people didn't want and doing the orgin over again still made 752 just shows that. If they came out with a new batman in a few years and it did the oring over again and was kind of like batman begins was kind of like how asm1 was to much like asm2 the movie would do even worse the what asm1 did.

 

[spiderman2]

If fanboys can make Spidey successful it wouldn't behind Captain America, X-Men and possibly Godzilla in domestic sales.

I will say it's an attestant to Spider-Man's popularity if a mediocre Spider-Man movie can do "as well" as movies that are critically reviewed well hits.

This is it shows that people love spider man and that it is not franchise fatigue like people are all of a sudden saying. If the other super hero movies where getting the kind of reviews that spider man is getting they would only be making like 500-600 million compared to spider man 700 or so that this movie is going to make. Also Xmen DOFP has already made about 32 million more then any other xmen movie at around 500 million now and after only 10 days. If franchise fatigue was a problem xmen would be suffer form it to yet the movie probly has a good changes at 700 million witch would be like 230 million more then any other xmen movie.

 

[TH29]

Sometimes there is only so much money to go around. Once everyone sees a movie once, they move on to the next. Stuff like Avengers and Iron Man 3 had alot of repeat business. Godzilla, ASM 2 has not. It happens. Its made alot of money, just not as much as some would like sure, but expectations need to be tempered for these things. Its still second or third highest gross so far this year. Most general audiences dont even think or concern themselves about a movie needing to make money opening weekend. I know ALOT of people who will watch ASM2 on blu/dvd that havent bothered to go to the movies to see it or Godzilla or X-Men. Its just the way it is these days. Not everything can make Iron Man 3 money.

 

[spiderman2]

Sometimes there is only so much money to go around. Once everyone sees a movie once, they move on to the next. Stuff like Avengers and Iron Man 3 had alot of repeat business. Godzilla, ASM 2 has not. It happens. Its made alot of money, just not as much as some would like sure, but expectations need to be tempered for these things. Its still second or third highest gross so far this year.

Yeah for now better at least a few more movies will make more and ticket sals are like half of what sm 1-3 was. The thing is if movies are really liked then they get more repeat

 

[TH29]

Yeah for now better at least a few more movies will make more and ticket sals are like half of what sm 1-3 was. The thing is if movies are really liked then they get more repeat

There is bad timing too to blame. I liked the movie alot, but it had no breathing room, Godzilla and X-Men followed right away. That Neighbors movie?! who would have expected that to steal the #1 spot away? That movie looked terrible to me and I like Seth Rogen for the most part.

 

[spider-neil]

Haha exept it's not. Including marketing costs & everything else, TASM 2 cost between $400-500 million altogether, & it is crawling to a $700 million worldwide gross with not even $200 million having been made domestically.

Now, MoS did cost a lot, but looking at the numbers it was more PROFITABLE than TASM 2 will ultimately be. So, just because the latter has a bigger number means absolutely nothing at all when you factor in all the variables.

You aren't privvy to all the variables so you are speculating as to which movie is more profitable.

 

[Red Mask]

TASM2 has earned $100 million less domestic than MoS. That's not encouraging.

TASM2 also cost more to make than MoS.

Those were estimates. And I don't care for the domestic earnings. How many times have Man of Steel fans said China and Japan's box offices will boost it over the $1 billion dollar mark (hah, hah ha ha ha).

When things looks grim the fans will always look overseas for more creds. The fact that Amazing Spidey 2 has earned so much in four weeks is encouraging.

 

[Erzengel]

Studios make more from the domestic take than the foreign take.

I mean the fact that this movie:

Is doing significantly less than it's predecessor is an issue.
That it got worse reviews than it's predecessor is an issue.
The fact that it spent more than it's predecessor combined with the other statements is an issue.

It's not all rainbow and sunshine.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Studios make more from the domestic take than the foreign take.

I mean the fact that this movie:

Is doing significantly less than it's predecessor is an issue.
That it got worse reviews than it's predecessor is an issue.
The fact that it spent more than it's predecessor combined with the other statements is an issue.

It's not all rainbow and sunshine.

Cue all the Spider-Fans:

 

[Andrew Lucas]

This thread needs some love.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Cue all the Spider-Fans:

It's a shame since that attitude means that they will settle for anything less than progress.

 

[spider-neil]

It's not all rainbow and sunshine.

Who on here claimed it was?

 

[LizardMan07]

avenging spidey?

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

avenging spidey?

Poor guy... hope he's coping with it all.

 

[spider-neil]

Putting aside Sony's gross spend, the numbers of people seeing ASM2 is similar to the numbers seeing Cap2 and DoFP, so what does that mean?

1) Less people are seeing superhero movies this year?
2) Spidey is now an 'also ran'?
3) B list characters are now making as movie money as A list characters?

There is another way to look at it, Spidey, with no Avengers bump and no Avengers-esque ensemble cast and a lukewarm reviews made similar numbers at the BO. The difference is it is likely Sony spent more so will see less bank.
So numbers wise (tickets sold rather than money made), are all 3 movies disappointments?

* Cap 2 came after the Avengers.
* DoFP had almost the entire original cast AND the FC cast together in a mega movie.
Both movies also were critically well received. So numbers wise are they disappointments?

 

[bapi]

Yeah, we've got 4 comic book movies per year now but it's quite easy, guys: both Amazing movies are bad, people don't like them so they lost some interest in Spider-Man. Yeah, we can use some Pirates or Transformers argument but when you have one or two big movies every weekend... you have options to choose from.

 

[Tobias]

Yeah, we've got 4 comic book movies per year now but it's quite easy, guys: both Amazing movies are bad, people don't like them so they lost some interest in Spider-Man. Yeah, we can use some Pirates or Transformers argument but when you have one or two big movies every weekend... you have options to choose from.

It could be saturation point is being reached and, for a comic book film to be successful, it now needs to be well produced, executed and acted. Comic book films can still make big bucks - Cap2, Thor and Ironman - but it is not a guarantee - TASM2 and MOS.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Dofp received universal praise. It will be lucky to earn $600m.

 

[Frodo]

This is it shows that people love spider man and that it is not franchise fatigue like people are all of a sudden saying. If the other super hero movies where getting the kind of reviews that spider man is getting they would only be making like 500-600 million compared to spider man 700 or so that this movie is going to make. Also Xmen DOFP has already made about 32 million more then any other xmen movie at around 500 million now and after only 10 days. If franchise fatigue was a problem xmen would be suffer form it to yet the movie probly has a good changes at 700 million witch would be like 230 million more then any other xmen movie.

I may not be so much fatigue as that audiences were effected by bad word of mouth and the lack luster quality of the last 3 films. I do think its lost some of it enthusiasm with the audience because its no longer new and fresh as it was a decade ago , but I don't think it has to do with not loving the character. I do think the franchise itself is tired after 5 films so in that sense there is franchise fatigue on behalf of the filmmmakers and creative team.

That's why I feel it needs a break to A)Allow the Public to hunger for another Spiderman film, and B)Allow time to craft a truly strong and good script.

 

[Erzengel]

Putting aside Sony's gross spend, the numbers of people seeing ASM2 is similar to the numbers seeing Cap2 and DoFP, so what does that mean?

1) Less people are seeing superhero movies this year?
2) Spidey is now an 'also ran'?
3) B list characters are now making as movie money as A list characters?

There is another way to look at it, Spidey, with no Avengers bump and no Avengers-esque ensemble cast and a lukewarm reviews made similar numbers at the BO. The difference is it is likely Sony spent more so will see less bank.
So numbers wise (tickets sold rather than money made), are all 3 movies disappointments?

* Cap 2 came after the Avengers.
* DoFP had almost the entire original cast AND the FC cast together in a mega movie.
Both movies also were critically well received. So numbers wise are they disappointments?

Cap while in the same universe as the Avengers, is not a sequel to the Avengers just like Iron Man 3 or Thor: The Dark World weren't sequels to Avengers. As a sequel to the First Avenger, it almost doubled the gross.

DofP has made more money ww in less than 2 weeks at the BO than any X-Men films.

Also the reviews for both have surpassed their predecessors.

TASM 2 went down in gross and in reviews. I mean, I'm not contesting it's popularity but their quality.

 

[bapi]

Dofp received universal praise. It will be lucky to earn $600m.

600? More likely 700... but it's still more than any other X-Men movie before.

 

[bapi]

It could be saturation point is being reached and, for a comic book film to be successful, it now needs to be well produced, executed and acted. Comic book films can still make big bucks - Cap2, Thor and Ironman - but it is not a guarantee - TASM2 and MOS.

Actually... MoS 670M or so was a great result. That character is quite boring and Superman Returns was a big dissapointment. I was predicting 550-600 for MoS.