I'm giving you a round of applauds right now. That article is a poorly researched travesty written by a pathetic fanboy.
I do not take kindly to people making up their own facts because they enjoyed or didn't enjoy a film.
203.5mil domestic and 507mil internationally. Remember I suck at international projections.I See Spidey, what is your prediction for Asm2's final gross. Your estimates have been pretty bang on so far so I would really appreciate your opinion.
So Sony is replacing Marc Webb with David O. Russell?You've got to give him credit for fancasting Jennifer Lawrence as MJ.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhug...ience-fatigue-isnt-really-hurting-spider-man/
Sony doesn't make any money from merchandising. I won't even bother reading the rest of this article when it obviously is a biased, misinformed demonstration constructed on flawed hypotheses.
The franchise hasn't lost 10 or 12 or even 20% of its domestic attendance but 64% 2002 . Internationally if it wasn't for China, ticket price inflation, 3D premiums and the lower dollar, that meager growth the film is showing from TASM would be a steep decline as well.
If that isn't enough to claim that the franchise's audience has shrunk enough to raise any alarm bells then what is exactly ?
Oh man, ASM2 still hasn't hit $700M.
Wtf.
Also Cap2 is the second movie out the gate (not the 5th) AND has an Avengers boost. People want to make out that makes no difference, we'll see how well the 5th Cap movie does at the box office.
X-Men is a mega cross over with the original cast teaming up with the FC cast. Plus Wolverine coming off one of the most successful X-Men universe movies.
Spidey's box office was disappointing but there was no Avengers boost, no major crossover, it's coming off a mixed reception for ASM and a even more mixed reception for ASM2. The movie is still going to cross the 700m mark. This could have turned out a lot lot worse.
It's shy by about $400.000.
There a ton of reasons, many of which are listed in the article you couldn't be bothered to read. Including the Raimi franchise being the first out of the gate, far more superhero movies to choose from, greater influences outside the cinema now than 2002 like pirating and home theatre. None of that matter though, right?
In 2002 Spider-Man was pretty much the only solo superhero movie franchise. Now he's competing with several others that are more fresh to audiences, of course there'll be a drop. It's like splitting the vote.
I think they make something from Merchandising, it's their movie so even though they sold the rights they should be entitled to something like 5%-10%, even just from the logos used on the packaging.
X-Men reversed it's downward trend but Spider-Man can't because? Is it some sort of special snowflake or something?
And can somebody explain to me why with 3D and IMAX and an expanded overseas market why these "Amazing" movies can't outgross Spider-Man 3 overseas?
What are going to be the excuses when TASM 3 drops another 22% domestically and actually starts dropping overseas, I wonder?Because piracy, video games, other movies in the genre and stuff of course.
I am pretty sure someone will soon come up with a "Spider-Man bias" idea that spread amongst critics and viewers alike and is the reason why the franchise is declining. The Mark Hughes article already started something like that so yeah I think it's going to trend, sooner than later.
I seriously never expected this level of bs excuses, especially when it was quite clear that the movie would be a box office dissapointment. I naively thought that even the most persistent, relentless fanboy* would have coped with reality by now.
* SPECIAL DISCLAIMER: spider-neil, this generic term, which I do not use as something derogatory, is not directed at you.
Would you have thought these numbers were brilliant before release though? I think most (including me) expected more from TASM2.For a fifth movie in a franchise spanning 12 years it's done brilliantly considering the level of the market
If Sinister Six is well received, then it could turn around the franchise and boost interest for TASM3. However, if it is received on the level of TASM2, it will not stop the decline.
I have my fingers crossed for Sinister Six in 2016. I hope it is a hit.
In 2002 the genre was much smaller than it is today. There are definitely more slices but you cannot deny that the pie got much much bigger. Which means that your slice getting smaller and smaller, film after film is not a foregone conclusion at all.
Would you have thought these numbers were brilliant before release though? I think most (including me) expected more from TASM2.
The year's leading movie at the worldwide box office is another Marvel superhero sequel, Disney's “Captain America: The Winter Soldier,” which has brought in $710 million globally. And Fox's Marvel mutant mashup “X-Men: Days of Future Past” is No. 3 at $624 million.
Like you said the genre was smaller, so the box office made by the originals was more because there wasn't as much competition.
The box office made now is lesser partly because their is more superhero choice for audiences. The fact that it's maintained as well as it has given the growth of the genre and the competition on offer shows that the franchise is still incredibly viable
If Sinister Six is well received, then it could turn around the franchise and boost interest for TASM3. However, if it is received on the level of TASM2, it will not stop the decline.
I have my fingers crossed for Sinister Six in 2016. I hope it is a hit.
Either competition is a problem for every franchise or it isn't and given recent performances in the genre ( with 3 billion dollar films in the past 2 years only) i'd be willing to say it isn't.
Yeah. I'm not one for hoping for the moon. As long as it does okay to get sequels I'm happy. Sure I'd like it to make billions, but $700 is nothing to turn my nose at.
Imo all Sony needs to do is not over-market the movies, they are burning money with that.
Only $10 million shy of being the highest grossing CBM and movie of the year. How disapointing.
Only $10 million shy of being the highest grossing CBM and movie of the year. How disapointing.