The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 General Discussion - Part 5

[C. Lee]

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[Ultra Nolanite]

The costume should appear black but have a dark green iridescence. And maybe yellow-ish seams or padding for the fanboy.

The lightning should be white and blue-ish.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

The costume should appear black but have a dark green iridescence. And maybe yellow-ish seams or padding for the fanboy.

The lightning should be white and blue-ish.

I actually like that idea but I think the suit will be pure black according to all the word.

 

[webhead9707]

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[Vid Electricz]

You need to think about things from a more grounded standpoint though. Take a look at the logo and colors used by Oscorp. Blues, blacks, and whites. It wouldn't make any sense for them to have a contrasting outfit that's green and yellow, that'd have something that fit with the company color scheme. Hell, you want to talk about lazy writing, having Dillion put on a containment suit that just so happens to resemble the classic costume, even though its colors clash with everything else, is lazy set up and writing. Electro most likely asked by Spidey to be his eyes and ears inside Oscorp, then Dillion almost gets himself killed or Spidey hears something dangerous is happening inside Oscorp so he tells him to stop, and that they can't talk anymore or something. Dillion probably isn't literally gonna be eyes and ears on the streets, unless
he's involed in the mafia or something, so why would he need a costume if he needs to be undercover? He could be obssessive with Spider-Man beforehand, maybe looks up to him or something, and finally sees an opprutinity to make a difference and work with him, so he believes himself to be Spidey's "partner".

That's not thinking creatively. If all the Avengers costumes can be faithfully, or at least semi-faithfully adapted to screen- then Electro's costume can be adapted as well. I'm not talking mask and lighting bolt suspenders on the classic Electro costume (you assume that's what I'm talking about) I'm talking about a very dark green suit with subtle yellow piping/accents here and there- It can be designed to look very utilitarian and it would work. I mean, the costume designers have thousands of fabrics and colors choices at their disposal. Saying, "Oh, that's not Oscorp's color scheme" is a completely unimaginitive cop out. It doesn't even make any sense. A utilitarian containment suit made to contain the electric guy needs to match the companys "color scheme"? Whatever.

The all black suit is a typical made-by-committee cop out decision. Too bad Joss Whedon (or anyone with any imagination) is not directing these films.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

I know what you mean when you're talking about the look of the suit that you want. Of course, criticize Webb for using the look from the Ultimate comics, which is still sticking to the source material, and when it comes down to that it's all opinion, there's no "right" way, he might be more partial to that look himself and it seems like a lot of people here are as well. Hope you don't mind having a R.H.I.N.O because I'm fairly certain that's what we'll get if he really is in this movie.

 

[Vid Electricz]

I know what you mean when you're talking about the look of the suit that you want. Of course, criticize Webb for using the look from the Ultimate comics, which is still sticking to the source material, and when it comes down to that it's all opinion, there's no "right" way, he might be more partial to that look himself and it seems like a lot of people here are as well. Hope you don't mind having a R.H.I.N.O because I'm fairly certain that's what we'll get if he really is in this movie.

I am sure that the Rhino will still be a man inside of a (in this case robotic) suit with a horn on the head. It's updated but we can still tell it's the Rhino by looking at him. Would you be able to do the same with Jamie Foxx in a skintight black rubber suit?

I'm not a huge fan of the claim that just because Electro is in a costume similar to the Ultimate version that it's "sticking to the source material". They could have used the awful Blue/White Electro costume and it would still be "faithful to the source material". It's about maintaining some or in this case none of the elements that make a character visually memorable. Heck, they've got the completely classic Spider-Man costume, but Electro? No, cannot do.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

@ Vid
Also, what does Joss Whedon have anything to do with The Avenger's having their costumes? They all had them in their respective movies, Joss didn't just throw them in there. Hawkeye was someone with an original costume, and it was mainly black.
Thor's is Asgardian armor, native to his people in a different dimension, he's not some random guy from Earth who decided to throw that all on. Iron Man's armor was a suit that Stark had developed because had no powers and just decided for JARVIS to throw colors he liked on there. Hulk doesn't have a costume. Cap's costume is based off a costume that he didn't design but wore to be promoted everywhere and do shows and movies and things like that. They just decided to throw that same design on some actual body armor so he could look like America's Boy Scout. None of their suits were somethig they just happened to find that just so happened to look like their comic counterpart.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

@ Vid
YOU don't have to be a fan, but it is still sticking to the source material and isn't being pulled out of thin air and lot of other people are fine with it and seem to approve. His entire physical persona isn't just the suit, but the electricty surrounding him, covering his face and distorting it. That's all the iconography he needs. There aren't any other electrical based villians in any CBMs right now.

 

[wobbly]

Has there been any confirmation on what Electro or Rhino will be wearing, or is it just rumor at the moment?

 

[GuestStar2004]

its safe to say even marvel went the ultimate route when they got Samuel L. Jackson to play nick fury

 

[Mr. Dent]

Has there been any confirmation on what Electro or Rhino will be wearing, or is it just rumor at the moment?

No conformation as in pics, but the source is pretty legit. They posted pics of them on the set with the security guard yesterday. Really no reason for them to lie about it especially when they have a lot of followers and wouldn't want to hurt their credibility by doing so.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Has there been any confirmation on what Electro or Rhino will be wearing, or is it just rumor at the moment?

from a girl on twitter who said a security guard on the set had pictures of the suits

thats about it so its nothing confirmed at all

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Has there been any confirmation on what Electro or Rhino will be wearing, or is it just rumor at the moment?

Jamie Foxx said in an interview with MTV that the costume won't be "comic book-y" and that the suit is black.

 

[SpideyK]

from a girl on twitter who said a security guard on the set had pictures of the suits

thats about it so its nothing confirmed at all

*Tumblr.

Anyway, her blog/account just got removed. Guess she was telling the truth, huh?

 

[Joe_Kickass]

*Tumblr.

Anyway, her blog/account just got removed. Guess she was telling the truth, huh?

Black suit, blue lightning it is then. Maybe. Hopefully they'll release concept art or something, if electricty really sets off the look, they'll need to do CGI effects to do that, so we might not get a real image for awhile since it seems that they haven't filmed anything with Jamie yet. Or we might have to fall back on leaked stuff like the Lizard.

 

[Vid Electricz]

@ Vid
Also, what does Joss Whedon have anything to do with The Avenger's having their costumes? They all had them in their respective movies, Joss didn't just throw them in there. Hawkeye was someone with an original costume, and it was mainly black.
Thor's is Asgardian armor, native to his people in a different dimension, he's not some random guy from Earth who decided to throw that all on. Iron Man's armor was a suit that Stark had developed because had no powers and just decided for JARVIS to throw colors he liked on there. Hulk doesn't have a costume. Cap's costume is based off a costume that he didn't design but wore to be promoted everywhere and do shows and movies and things like that. They just decided to throw that same design on some actual body armor so he could look like America's Boy Scout. None of their suits were somethig they just happened to find that just so happened to look like their comic counterpart.

Because Whedon makes the effort to maintain verisimilitude to the characters' looks/iconography so that even if they're not 100% immediately identifiable by their look alone, there are still call backs and nods at their original costume.

Caps costume is completely different from First Avenger and bears a very close resemblance to the comic book one (with a few updates/modifications). Even Hawkeyes costume maintains a few design elements/colors from his iconic costume while at the same time being updated. That's all I'm asking for.

Take a look at this. Dark Purple with a grayish blue depending on the light. Looked great on film. Not just plain, boring black rubber/leather.

@ Vid
YOU don't have to be a fan, but it is still sticking to the source material and isn't being pulled out of thin air and lot of other people are fine with it and seem to approve. His entire physical persona isn't just the suit, but the electricty surrounding him, covering his face and distorting it. That's all the iconography he needs. There aren't any other electrical based villians in any CBMs right now.

You're right, but with comic book to film translations- These are iconic characters who are immediately recognized based on appearance-and there needs to be some of that iconography maintained.

 

[GuestStar2004]

You're right, but with comic book to film translations- These are iconic characters who are immediately recognized based on appearance-and there needs to be some of that iconography maintained.

but whether you like it or not there are loads of designs for the character, the ultimates being one that is known by fans and is seen as acceptable to use by FOX,sony or marvel

same as the ultimate nick fury in the MCU

 

[Joe_Kickass]

Because Whedon makes the effort to maintain verisimilitude to the characters' looks/iconography so that even if they're not 100% immediately identifiable by their look alone, there are still call backs and nods at their original costume.

Caps costume is completely different from First Avenger and bears a very close resemblance to the comic book one (with a few updates/modifications). Even Hawkeyes costume maintains a few design elements/colors from his iconic costume while at the same time being updated. That's all I'm asking for.

Take a look at this. Dark Purple with a grayish blue depending on the light. Looked great on film. Not just plain, boring black rubber/leather.




You're right, but with comic book to film translations- These are iconic characters who are immediately recognized based on appearance-and there needs to be some of that iconography maintained.

What you seem to be forgetting is that Electro has powers that consume his body, same as Human Torch. Without flamming on, there's nothing "iconic" about him, and when he does flame on he's just a man on fire. Electro will have electricity flowing on the outside of his body, probably sparks coming out of his eyes, things like that. Even if that girl was telling the truth then his whole face will be consumed with electricity. That's all the iconography you need. He's not just going to be in a plain black suit, he will litterally be electrifying.

 

[Vid Electricz]

but whether you like it or not there are loads of designs for the character, the ultimates being one that is known by fans and is seen as acceptable to use by FOX,sony or marvel

same as the ultimate nick fury in the MCU

Yes, there is some "give and take" so to speak. I'd argue that the more well known incarnation of Electro is the 616 green costume version. The ultimate black jumpsuit version only appeared once or twice(?) before the character was revised to look like a being of pure electricity (apropo of nothing) for the remainder of the title.

Also, the Fury character (who was a staple character for many years unlike Electro) in the ultimates was based directly off of SLJ- So this casting/costume choice made a fair bit more sense. I don't recall Electro being based off of Jamie Foxx. I can also see that despite other outfit updates, that Fury has kept his iconic eye patch.

In the end, they could very easily have used a few homages to the original costume ala Hawkeye, but chose to go the generic route. Whatcha gonna do?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Green and yellow lightning is way too forced dude. It makes NO sense, it doesn't flow, it doesn't make Electro seem organic and fit into this universe. It's cheap fan service.

I don't really care what you think to be honest. And I've said Green and/or yellow. It certainly doesn't have to be both colors

 

[SpideyK]

Black suit, blue lightning it is then. Maybe. Hopefully they'll release concept art or something, if electricty really sets off the look, they'll need to do CGI effects to do that, so we might not get a real image for awhile since it seems that they haven't filmed anything with Jamie yet. Or we might have to fall back on leaked stuff like the Lizard.

Yeah. And as long as the final product looks great, I'm happy.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

@ Vid
YOU don't have to be a fan, but it is still sticking to the source material and isn't being pulled out of thin air and lot of other people are fine with it and seem to approve. His entire physical persona isn't just the suit, but the electricty surrounding him, covering his face and distorting it. That's all the iconography he needs. There aren't any other electrical based villians in any CBMs right now.

I prefer that they stay clear away of ultimate designs for anyone... I don't want a hulk goblin, a energy vampire carnage, terminate doc ock, purple venom, and certainly glad we didn't get iguana lizard

 

[Vid Electricz]

What you seem to be forgetting is that Electro has powers that consume his body, same as Human Torch. Without flamming on, there's nothing "iconic" about him, and when he does flame on he's just a man on fire. Electro will have electricity flowing on the outside of his body, probably sparks coming out of his eyes, things like that. Even if that girl was telling the truth then his whole face will be consumed with electricity. That's all the iconography you need. He's not just going to be in a plain black suit, he will litterally be electrifying.

Except for his blue fantastic Four costume with "4" emblem on the chest. There's a huge difference between a characters appearance and their abilities. Looking at a blonde haired, blue eyed young man in a blue suit with a "4" on his chest says Johnny Storm perfectly (ala Chris Evans).

ANYWHO. I do hope that they do something creative (visually) with this character other than glowing eyes and shooting electricity.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

*Tumblr.

Anyway, her blog/account just got removed. Guess she was telling the truth, huh?

Actually no considering she didn't get pics. Sony can't take down an account because an contracted party told a spoiler. She's a civilian that doesn't work for them