The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - User Review Thread! - SPOILERS! - Part 4

[DarthSkywalker]

An unfortunate glitch. Whenever a thread is continued as a part 2, or part whatever, the poll ceases to function.

In TWS forum, they posted a new separate thread with a poll, that no one posted in. That might be a good idea here.

 

[Raiden]

Webb should have introduced Harry in the first film imo.

I think Webb was trying hard to distance TASM from the Raimi movies, so he purposefully avoided introducing Harry in the first movie. It also explained why Webb displayed Uncle Ben's importance in Peter's life, and greatly expanded Peter's decreased parents' role in the movie.

 

[Karelia]

I'm not going to go into a long detailed review, but bottom line....I really enjoyed this film. I can't for the life of me agree with the criticisms its receiving. Sure it could have been polished a little more here and there, but overall it was great and very enjoyable. The "cheesiness" or hamming it up that people are complaining about was in no way on par with B&R for one, and in no way any worse than anything in the Raimi films.

The film was full of feels, and I finally got the wise cracking Spidey I've been waiting for since 2002. The visuals were beautiful, though the slo-mo in certain places was meh. Definitely enjoyed it more than ASM, and even though I thought I would feel odd about the ending, it actually went over quite well for me. Andrew and Emma are cute as can be, so it will be sad to not have her around anymore. Still, very much looking forward to the next one.

9/10

Totally agree, bro. Spider-Man was actually... witty/funny! It made me want a Deadpool movie that much more, though.

The suit is one of my favorite Super-Hero suits on film... It just looked great.

 

[TeeKay]

I think Webb was trying hard to distance TASM from the Raimi movies, so he purposefully avoided introducing Harry in the first movie. It also explained why Webb displayed Uncle Ben's importance in Peter's life, and greatly expanded Peter's decreased parents' role in the movie.

I agree. Can't believe Uncle Ben was nowhere mentioned in this cut. A huge mistake on Webb's part. 3 people have died for Peter to finally realize what With great power comes great responsibilty. Wow. That's kinda poor storytelling. Gwen's death was powerful though, was really looking forward to Harry's beatdown. The way he went out was so anti-climatic.

 

[TayDee]

A relationship as generic as the origins of the super villains in this film. Harry's transformation another perfect example of the generic nature of this film. Both Harry and Max are suddenly typical comic book villains, even spouting the usual canned phrase. It is all words, attempts a convey big emotion, without the build up.

Like I said to each his own. No use in going back and forth on it any longer. Nobody is changing their minds or opinions.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Like I said to each his own. No use in going back and forth on it any longer. Nobody is changing their minds or opinions.

If you don't want to discuss it, don't respond. I am allowed to continue.

 

[AF3619]

I am seriously thinking if this film deserves an 8.5 for me, after thinking about it and i gave TASM an 8.5 i think TASM>TASM2 in my book,i need to see the movie again but i think the ranking for SM films is SM2,TASM,SM,TASM2 and SM3. the bold part can´t decide!

 

[Secret_Riddle]

Really enjoyed the film guys! Loved it. It's up there around Spider-Man 2 in my books, which was a huge surprise. It's maybe not as good a "movie", but it absolutely nails the characters and the world. Gwen and Peter's characters are perfection. They serve as a brilliant emotional anchor that almost sort of carries the entire movie....Ending was phenomenal.

To me, the film was about selfishness, and taking advantage of others. Everyone in the film is either taken advantage of, or takes advantage of somebody else.[BLACKOUT] Gwen's death at the hands of Peter's selfishness is the ultimate culmination of the film's theme.[/BLACKOUT]

True, but editing is so much more tedious, especially quick cuts and such which are pretty rampant in modern films. Same sort of arguments with music and such. Pro tools, no pro tools etc.

No one cuts 35mm on flatbeds anymore (I think Spielberg might, but that's it). It's all digital, regardless of the medium. The film is scanned into the Avid, and then printed again onto reels once it's locked.

Not sure if you were saying otherwise, but I thought I'd just clarify that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I agree. Can't believe Uncle Ben was nowhere mentioned in this cut. A huge mistake on Webb's part. 3 people have died for Peter to finally realize what With great power comes great responsibilty. Wow. That's kinda poor storytelling. Gwen's death was powerful though, was really looking forward to Harry's beatdown. The way he went out was so anti-climatic.

How powerful is it really? I know it Gwen and all, and I like Stone. But really, Peter losing her in this film doesn't strike me as anything that changes much, let alone everything.

 

[TeeKay]

So Just read that they decided to add all the Sinister 6 stuff AFTER they'd already shot a large portion of the movie:

"Indeed, news of the "Sinister Six" plan came as a surprise to even some of the actors rumored to be involved. For instance, actor Dane DeHaan told CBR News that "Sinister Six" was "never part of the plan" when he first signed on to play Harry Osborn in "The Amazing Spider-Man 2."



"There was no murmur of that when we were shooting," he said. "But as they started to show the movie, people were responding so well to Harry and Electro and the Goblin, and that's where they got the idea."



Tolmach confirmed that the idea for "Sinister Six" grew out of watching "The Amazing Spider-Man" sequel take shape.

"

Something happened when we were making this last movie," he said. "It happened early in the making of this last movie. Some of it was the story. Some of it was the casting of the villains that are in this movie. Some of it was [production designer] Mark Friedberg's mind-blowing set creation. Suddenly, Oscorp was becoming this character in a way that even caught us slightly off guard. It was the place where all these things originated from."



 

[TeeKay]

How powerful is it really? I know it Gwen and all, and I like Stone. But really, Peter losing her in this film doesn't strike me as anything that changes much, let alone anything.

The moment Peter was crying over Gwen. Shed a tear, it was really well down imo. Well 3 people died for Peter to finally learn what responsibility, so I dunno man where his character goes forward from this.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Originally, the end credits scene was going to have TMITS and Norman's head. They then decided to reshoot it to include the Rhino armor and place that into the actual film to help build to the Sinister Six.

 

[Picard Sisko]

The moment Peter was crying over Gwen. Shed a tear, it was really well down imo. Well 3 people died for Peter to finally learn what responsibility, so I dunno man where his character goes forward from this.

I think that Peter's responsibility should be put to the test if/when he encounters Uncle Ben's killer again in the future. Does he get his revenge or just bring him in to the authorities? I don't know.

 

[AF3619]

How powerful is it really? I know it Gwen and all, and I like Stone. But really, Peter losing her in this film doesn't strike me as anything that changes much, let alone anything.

well he almost quit beeing spider-man because of that,everytime he will even try to expose himself to anyone else he will remember what happened and someone inocent died just because the person knew spider-man.

 

[TayDee]

The moment Peter was crying over Gwen. Shed a tear, it was really well down imo. Well 3 people died for Peter to finally learn what responsibility, so I dunno man where his character goes forward from this.

He learns to deal with it. Gwen's speech outlines that perfectly. There will be dark days, but you move on.

 

[AF3619]

So Just read that they decided to add all the Sinister 6 stuff AFTER they'd already shot a large portion of the movie:

 

[TeeKay]

Originally, the end credits scene was going to have TMITS and Norman's head. They then decided to reshoot it to include the Rhino armor and place that into the actual film to help build to the Sinister Six.

Well made sense why the reshot it and added in several other scenes.

I think that Peter's responsibility should be put to the test if/when he encounters Uncle Ben's killer again in the future. Does he get his revenge or just bring him in to the authorities? I don't know.

I doubt that plotline is ever gonna be explored again given it's nowhere mentioned in this film.

 

[Visualiza]

So Just read that they decided to add all the Sinister 6 stuff AFTER they'd already shot a large portion of the movie:

That's pretty sad.

I can't understand how professionals failed to see how poorly conceived these villains are.

If these parody-laden villains are what inspired them to move forward with S6, then I'm very fearful for what the future holds for this franchise.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I doubt that plotline is ever gonna be explored again given it's nowhere mentioned in this film.

They better explore it again!

I do think that the plot line was left out unintentionally so the writers could sort of get back to it in the future (perhaps the killer is related to Felicia Hardy like in TSSM?), but IDK anymore. I really don't.

 

[SpideyK]

So Just read that they decided to add all the Sinister 6 stuff AFTER they'd already shot a large portion of the movie:

Well, that's uh... Interesting.

Man, I still remember seeing the first set pictures, thinking it was gonna be a film about SPIDER-MAN. Wish they'd focus a little more on that.

 

[BlackFox]

So Just read that they decided to add all the Sinister 6 stuff AFTER they'd already shot a large portion of the movie:

Well that does explain a lot about some of the issues in this film. They seem to be so keen on films further down the line they took their eye off the one they were actually making.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I guess it makes sense since the Sinister Six film wasn't announced until after filming was complete and additional shooting/reshoots took place a few months ago.

 

[Bullseye1]

How powerful is it really? I know it Gwen and all, and I like Stone. But really, Peter losing her in this film doesn't strike me as anything that changes much, let alone everything.

If they follow the comics it does have an impact on his future.

 

[Nemeres]

How powerful is it really? I know it Gwen and all, and I like Stone. But really, Peter losing her in this film doesn't strike me as anything that changes much, let alone anything.

Garfield sells it very well. If it wasn't powerful in theory (Wasn't it? It's the death of the gf), it definitely was in practice.

I agree. Can't believe Uncle Ben was nowhere mentioned in this cut. A huge mistake on Webb's part. 3 people have died for Peter to finally realize what With great power comes great responsibilty. Wow. That's kinda poor storytelling. Gwen's death was powerful though, was really looking forward to Harry's beatdown. The way he went out was so anti-climatic.

And were all those flaws absent in the cut you saw? Because you were extremely complimentary of it...

 

[Steyin]

Can't believe Uncle Ben was nowhere mentioned in this cut.

He was mentioned at least 3 times by my count.