The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread - Part 1

[TheVileOne]

This movie is not bombing, it's doing ok domestic and good overseas. It's only doing pathetic in relation to the previous movies....but anybody with one brain cell could see that the GA did not want a reboot origin movie.

So you are saying that the people who made this movie only have one brain cell .

 

[Bruce Malone]

With the expected 40-50+% superhero film drop in 2nd weekend box office and TDKR coming out the following weekend i can't see this film being that successful domestically.

It's actually lucky it had a decent 1st week.

 

[chaseter]

So you are saying that the people who made this movie only have one brain cell .

Yes. One of them is named Avi Arad.

 

[Jexx]

Funnily enough, if the GA didn't want a reboot, they sure have been accepting it pretty well.

 

[chaseter]

Funnily enough, if the GA didn't want a reboot, they sure have been accepting it pretty well.

Funnilier enough, Sony made less money than if they would have done SM4. Isn't that rofl worthy? The overseas audience would have eaten up SM4 just as much as this movie. Here, it's doing just alright...much like the critical response on the quality of the movie.

 

[TheVileOne]

Now let me be clear, I'm not saying they should've done Spidey 4. But I just wasn't enthused about another origin movie so soon. I know Spider-Man happened 10 years ago but it doesn't feel like its been that long.

 

[chaseter]

Whether that be SM4 or a loose reboot like TIH, it was clear people didn't want to see SM1.2. The signs were there as soon as it was announced...yet they drudged on and voila...a likely $250 million domestic take for a film that cost nearly that much to make. It could have done soo much better at the box office.

 

[Smegger56]

Now let me be clear, I'm not saying they should've done Spidey 4. But I just wasn't enthuses about another origin movie so soon. I know Spider-Man happened 10 years ago but it doesn't feel like its been that long.

For me I really wanted it. SM-4 may very well have gone the same route as the others. Pete/MJ have a crises, Aunt May gives a speech, MJ gets kidnapped by the bad guy, spidey goes to save her...

To be fair, that's a complete guess on my part. But since the others followed suit, it's a fair assumption.

By the time the spidey 4 was happening, I was hoping for a reboot sooner than later. I would have still gone to see spidey 4 because... it's a spidey film.

But I'm happy they rebooted and retold the origin. But I can be a sucker for a good origin telling

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Batman Begins opened low but it held up much better in later weeks.

Also Amazing Spider-Man did lower than the reported BO estimates for the weekend. Begins did higher. So I'm not sure this is a Batman Begins type situation here.

I don't see how Green Goblin in the first movie lacked tragedy and insanity. All seemed to be there and audiences loved it.

It did, but I understand what he's saying. He wants a Green Goblin that is more similar to the Joker. The one in SM1 was more like Two-Face. They are both tragic and insane, but it is a different approach to the character.

 

[Jexx]

Funnilier enough, Sony made less money than if they would have done SM4. Isn't that rofl worthy? The overseas audience would have eaten up SM4 just as much as this movie. Here, it's doing just alright...much like the critical response on the quality of the movie.

If you're going to mock me, use actual words.

 

[chaseter]

Make a good argument and I won't use silly words.

 

[Jexx]

...I'm done with this.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Funnilier enough, Sony made less money than if they would have done SM4. Isn't that rofl worthy? The overseas audience would have eaten up SM4 just as much as this movie. Here, it's doing just alright...much like the critical response on the quality of the movie.

Wow! Hey man can I borrow your machine that can look into alternate realities? I want see what would happen if Ed Norton was in Avengers.

 

[AvengeME]

Sony was in an impossible position though. There is no way they reboot in 2012 if they indefinitely own the rights. They clearly don't, hence a 5 year turn around.

If you made SM4, you would need to spend way more than 220 million. The cast alone would drive the budget north of 275 million, considering SM3's price tag even had they scaled it down. More so, the movie was shaping up to be a disaster to my knowledge with the turmoil between Raimi's and the producers' vision for the franchise.

If you recast everybody for SM4, it would have felt like a completely different franchise. I realize audiences weren't happy with SM3 and the actors were probably passed their prime Spidey years (that's more of a fact), but recasting is definitely a killer when you replace basically the entire core cast. Tobey and Dunst were willing to come back though as long as Raimi was involved.

With that said, I probably would have recasted. But I would have tried to bring back some supporting actors and work them in to give it the same feel. It would not have been easy though because they forwarded the story too fast in SM3 by killing Brock and Harry along with a wedding proposal. It was another X-3 situation.

Sony did not have an easy decision by any stretch. You can't go back in hindsight and say they shouldn't have rebooted. Yeah they knew the risks. They made a tough choice to let go of Raimi and start anew. Maybe it will still pay off for them down the line.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Batman Begins had the highest 6-day start in Batman franchise history (at that time of course TDK litteraly blew it). That actually makes a difference.

Considering ticket price inflation and 3D, TASM, should have been on 2002 Spider-Man's tracks (at least for the 6-days).

If Batman 89 sold almost 100% more tickets than Batman Begins.

It will be around the same for Amazing Spider-man versus Spider-man (2002).

So why would you think Batman Begins did so much better than ASM?

 

[GoldGoblin]

SM4 would of made less money,because everybody hated SM3.Some people are giving this movie a chance because it is a reboot.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I've mentioned this before but it was possible to reboot without going over another origin story.

They should have done an adult spider-man film, since teen/college peter was so covered in the last series. I mean they even cast a lead in his late 20's?

Audiences don't feel like paying for things they've already seen. That was there mistake imo.

 

[chaseter]

Wow! Hey man can I borrow your machine that can look into alternate realities? I want see what would happen if Ed Norton was in Avengers.

It would have done around the same as Mark or Ed aren't powerhouses in those movies. Nobody wants to see Bruce Banner.

 

[AvengeME]

I've mentioned this before but it was possible to reboot without going over another origin story.

They should have done an adult spider-man film, since teen/college peter was so covered in the last series. I mean they even cast a lead in his late 20's?

Audiences don't feel like paying for things they've already seen. That was there mistake imo.

Agreed completely. But where would you have taken Raimi's story?

 

[chaseter]

SM4 would of made less money,because everybody hated SM3.Some people are giving this movie a chance because it is a reboot.

That's like me saying everybody hated this movie. There is in fact more evidence on my end with the mediocre domestic take. Both scored closely from a critical standpoint.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

So I'm the only one who wanted to see one of Spider-man's greatest story arcs "The Night Gwen Stacy Died" done in a Spider-man movie?

You need Gwen as Parker's first love and an alive Green Goblin to make that happen.

Audiences gave this movie a chance because it looked different from any of the Raimi films. Spider-man 3 left it's skid mark on most viewers mind and another Raimi effort with the same tone, costumes, music, cheesy dialogue, butchered continuity, repetitive archetypes, romantic rollercoaster, etc. audiences would've avoided it like the plague.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It would have done around the same as Mark or Ed aren't powerhouses in those movies. Nobody wants to see Bruce Banner.

C'mon guy. You know that was a rhetorical question.

 

[JKKS085]

If Batman 89 sold almost 100% more tickets than Batman Begins.

It will be around the same for Amazing Spider-man versus Spider-man (2002).

So why would you think Batman Begins did so much better than ASM?

I'm not saying that Batman Begins did better than ASM, I'm just saying that Batman Begins made more money in its first 6 days than any of the Batman movies (at that time) and that it domestically outgrossed 3 out of his 4 predecessors.

ASM on another hand made less money in its first 6 days than any of the previous Spider-Man movies and has now no chance at all to outgross them (domestically).

From a business perspective, that's basically growth vs decay.

 

[Spider-Dude23]

Whether that be SM4 or a loose reboot like TIH, it was clear people didn't want to see SM1.2. The signs were there as soon as it was announced...yet they drudged on and voila...a likely $250 million domestic take for a film that cost nearly that much to make. It could have done soo much better at the box office.

You think more people would pay to see the vulture and vultress/felicia hardy and more cringeworthy crying and *****ing from Tobey and Kristen? Hahaha give me some of what you're smoking!

 

[Tony Stark]

That's a bit extreme.

TF2 and SM3 were pretty misguided and they didn't bomb. I'd say a serious take on Green Goblin filled with insanity and tragedy could do quite well.

Green Goblin is Spider-man's Joker.

616 Green Goblin yes....... Ultimate GG no....