The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread - Part 2

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  3. Jexx the Emerald Eagle

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    Yea, it is.

    Also, I'm personally rooting for TASM over TDKR because I honestly prefer TASM over TDKR, but that's because I prefer the overall tone and feel of TASM to the Nolan Batmanverse.

    Another example, using only Batman related media..
    I prefer the Arkhamverse to the Nolanverse.
     
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    Ugh stupid thread merger...anyways


    Just looking over the whole TASM vs TDKR money debate they aren't even in the same league.

    TDKR's budget was also only 230m after tax credits the film enjoyed:


    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,4678609.story



    So that's essentially the same budget as TASM. TASM is gonna finish it's domestic take under 250m TDKR will be near 300m after this weekend in only it's 2nd week. I don't know how this comparison even started?
     
  5. Donald Thomas The Black ArachKnight

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    Aloha,
    As of July 25, 2012 with a release date of July 3, 2012

    The Amazing Spider-Man

    Domestic Total $233,672,436 (Box Office Mojo)

    Spidey rules the reboots
     
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    I feel the exact opposite when it comes to the tones of the films, lol. But, alas, I still like Spidey as much as Batman.

    The funny thing about the Arkhamverse and Nolanverse; they happen to be my favorite Batman-wise on their respective areas(video game and film). Such as is B:TAS for animated series.

    :up:
     
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    is pedro serious really?
     
  8. SpiderMarvelite Registered

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    TASM is the highest grossing reboot now
     
  9. AF3619 You´re those Spider-guys!

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    [​IMG]
    good .... good!
     
  10. Anno_Domini Registered

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    Isn't that Star Trek?
     
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    oops, wrong thread.
     
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    It literally is passing Star Trek very soon, it will pass it.

    [​IMG]
     
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    It needs to make about 20 million more.

    WW, I think TAS-M has won the contest though.

    And Foreign belongs to Casino Royale. So says boxofficemojo.
     
  14. AF3619 You´re those Spider-guys!

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    THE good things is that is making money! :up:
     
  15. Spiderdevil Registered

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    I know a lot of people who were big fans of Raimi's movies but started liking Nolan's Batman and Avengers after that
    My point being Spider-man is now the 3rd most liked character now after Batman and Avengers(not exactly a 'character') when he was the undisputed 1st in 2007.
    Big Difference

    Compare TASM to BB not TDK
    And if Nolan 'earned' the freedom through BB,why do you think Webb hasnt despite TASM being more successful box-office wise?

    The money earned was due to SM1 and 2's reputation.The movie is still disliked almost as much as B&R,and it is more fresher in people's mind than B&R was in 2005

    Lets see
    Batman 1989:
    Budget:35M Earnings:412M
    Adjusted for 2005
    Budget:55M Earnings:646M
    BB doesnt beat this one

    Batman Returns:
    Budget:80M Earnings:267M
    Adjusted to 2005
    Budget:110M Earnings:371M
    BB's earnings are the same but its budget is 40M higher so again it loses here
    Batman Forever:
    Budget:100M Earnings:337M
    Adjusted to 2005
    Budget:128M Earnings:430M
    Again,BB loses
    Batman&Robin:
    Budget:125M Earnings:239M
    Adjusted to 2005
    Budget:150M Earnings:294M
    BB beats B&R.BIG achievement

    Plus BB probably spent a LOT more on marketing than these films and the only film it managed to beat box office wise was Batman&Robin,which was a terrible movie to start with
    And also the previous movies made almost their entire money domestically meaning they got aa higher percentage of the ticket sales than BB
    I am sorry but I dont see a 'Prespective for growth'
    And I dont think its fair to compare TASM to BB in this area
    The Highest grossing SM movie made almost 1.2B worldwide,almost double of the money Batman(1989) made(adjusted for inflation)
    If you say you expected TASM to cross 1.2B then you are being ridiculous
    But as far as BB was concerned,Beating B&R was the least WB would expect,its what they got and it wasnt a huge achievement
    Just to put things into prespective,let us take the ratio of BB's earnings to 1989 movie and TASM's earnings to SM3
    (To see how TASM and BB's earnings are compared to the highest grossing in their respective franchise)
    BB/Batman(1989) = 410/646 = 0.63
    TASM/SM3 = 700/1118 = 0.62
    The Ratio is almost the same and there is also the fact that SM3's production budget was 50M more than TASM and Batman(1989) was 100M lower than BB so TASM obviously does better Box office wise compared to BB


    No offence but I expect someone with a 3 year old son to have manners

    Agreed,But we'll have a better idea if they release a Director's cut

    Please explain to me your logic,How can interfering with the movie guarantee them more income?

    Untill it does that,its in loss here.
    I can also state than TASM's DVDs are gonna sell like hot cakes but thats not the point,The thing we are talking about now are box office earnings

    I am only quoting the hollywood economist because its the only site which gives the percentage of Box office earnings
    I still have a hard time believing that the studios spend dozens of millions promoting the film overseas and in the end they get some 15% of the ticket sales,they may aswell not release it overseas and concentrate their marketing campaign in the domestic territory
    For Example,if TASM makes 450M from Overseas market,going by HE's 15% rule,Sony would get 67.5M for themselves,they probably spent almost that much marketing the movie overseas.I seriously have a hard time believing that

    Did Arad said it himself to your 'source'?
    'Hey you know we are expecting 300M in ticket sales domestically'
    Sorry but I will believe what Arad has himself said in an interview and Sony's statement afterwards stating that they are pleased with the numbers

    And you CLEARLY NEED to learn some manners
     
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    It was never gonna break TA's record even if they got that 20M
    Thats my point

    So you are one of those Nolanites who believe that 3D is only for earning money and IMAX is not.

    No,Stop being delusional

    It isnt a silly fad,people like 3D and they pay for it
     
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    Does the movie still have to open in any big market?
    China, maybe?
     
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    And you keep replying that only ends up in a stalemate. I didn't SAY TDKR would beat Avengers; I only said that that tragedy kept the film from meeting expectations.

    "One of the Nolanites?" LOL.

    No, I'm someone who always hated 3D. IMAX is glorious on screen and something that should be for every film. 3D is just ridiculous.

    Know what the hell you're talking about before you starting throwing words out, k?

    Okay dude...

    The Avengers - 7-Day total is $270,019,373

    The Dark Knight Rises - 7-Day total is $224,829,000

    Take out $30 million from 3D and add the $20 million that was expected before the shooting and it would be

    The Avengers: $240 million

    The Dark Knight Rises: $240 million

    The race would have been way closer.

    Do you know what a fad is?
     
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    Actually, I believe that 3D will become the next HD once the tech is advanced enough (I.E. doesn't require glasses).
     
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    China is supposedly going to pit TDKR against TASM.
     
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    That'll be a very sad day.

    Hopefully the world ends before that :funny:
     
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    Agreed but some people had there expectations at a very high level,something like 200+ for the opening weekend


    Thats the general opinion of all Nolanites
    No one is forcing anyone to watch something in 3D,the movie comes out in 2D aswell and people have a choice on which version to see


    Why should I?? LOL
    Nope I am not taking out anything.3D is costly to film in.If you want to take it out you might aswell compare the budget

    Avengers-200M without 3D
    TDKR-260M
    A whole 30% difference in budget

    No,only you know that
     
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    When was it ever that high? Probably just fan expectations mostly.

    The most I read was $180-$185 million. There was no way it would be able to top Avengers, but, IMO, I still believe it's because of 3D.

    And that's the opinion of people who just don't like 3D period. If TDKR wasn't released this year, I'd still voice my opinion on how much I dislike 3D.

    I'm only painting a picture in showing you that the race could've been closer taking out 3D and the shooting. You couldn't have seem to realize it anyways until I type the numbers out apparently.

    Obviously.
     
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    Anything wrong with that?

    Has anyone ever forced you to watch in 3D?
    You are obviously against it because of it being the reason for TDKR not getting close to Avengers


    Nope,TDKR still wouldnt have matched it despite having a 30% increased budget.I dont see a closer race.
    Opening week aside Avengers would always win if you see the final numbers,it has better legs.3D or not.Shooting or not
     
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    I don't understand.. why do you hate 3D?

    3D done well is very very good.

    I really enjoyed the 3D for The Amazing Spider-Man in IMAX 3D, it didn't feel disconcerting at all.
     
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