Viola Casiono Royale wasnt even a reboot..it was a completely new movie
So yeah comparing apples and oranges
Should be compared to TASM
It's a reboot in the sense that it tells an origin story and starts a new timeline in the franchise. Just like TASM or Star Trek. But it's not related to 67 Casino Royale otherwise.
And BB wasnt handicaped by being behind 2 hugely anticipated superhero movies
BB didn't came out in an era in wich the genre was as popular and broadly appealing as it is today.
Hmm..
310-230/230 * 100 = 34.7%
It's the other way around since SM3 came out first, you're calculating a decrease in budget, not an increase.
[(300.312-230)*100]/300.312= 23.14
The Amazing Spider-Man's pb is 23.14% cheaper than Spider-Man 3's adjusted pb.
35% refers to how much more expensive SM3's adjusted pb is compared to TASM's but it's not relevant since the movie was released before TASM and is therefore the base on wich the evolution of the production budget should be calculated.
3.14 is pretty close to 3.45
To give you an idea
TDK made 5.41 times its budget while TDKR will end up making 4.2 times its budget(If we assume 1.1 Billion in the end)
Then maybe we can try to compare TASM with the most profitable flick in the franchise in 10 years as well. Spider-Man has a profit ration of 5.91, TASM will end up close to 3.14 wich is almost two times lower. It can go both ways.
And 1.1B for TDKR makes for a 4.4 profit ratio not 4.2
You're still having issues with numbers.
Totally different target audience
And Harry Potter had 7 movies before it and Transformers had 3
Comparing Apples to Oranges
Transformers had 2 (Spider-Man had 3 though). And who's comparing Spider-Man to any of those films ? It just shows that you can release 2 movies in a two weeks time frame during the summer and yet get billion dollar hits (with a may release reaching the billion dollar mark as well).
So TASM's presumed competition, while The Avengers was out 2 months prior its release barely making 700K a day early july, is no excuse at all for not grossing more than 300 million domestically and 775/800 million WW.
Thr hype was nothing compared to TDKR's and TA's,Fact
That's precisely what I was saying. You're just wasting your time saying the exact same thing that I did. But if the movie was actually interesting and appealing to broad audiences things would have been different. Then again no external factor to blame for the lack of hype other than the movie itself.
Same can be said about TDKR
As I said 3.14 is a lot more closer to 3.45 than 4.23 is to 5.41
Thus TDKR was also lacking novelty and a fresh/interesting enough angle on the character's mythos.
If you so deeply want to comment on how TDKR performed compared to TDK I suggest you to do so on the appropriate threads.
But to answer your question that's the difference between an unprecedented cultural phenomenon for a comic book movie and a simply great box-office success. Anyways we're talking about profit ratios and actual profits that are way higher than any of the last 3 Spider-Man movies. And while TASM's benefits from a decreasing budget compared to Spider-Man 3, TDKR on the other hand has to deal with a significantly higher pb compared to its predecessor that impacts its profit ratio more heavily.
And SM3 can be compared to TASM?
Because, and I may be wrong both movies feature the same character. You can correct me if I'm wrong.
And the budget is also 35% more
So TASM wins
Like I said it should be the other way around.
Though if I use you calculation method (based on SM3 being 35% more expensive than TASM), it's numbers on the first 17 days are actually 51.09% higher than TASM's. Guess who wins ???
If a 0.3 ration is miles away in actual figures,what 1.21?(The difference in ratios between TDK and TDKR)
If you so deeply want to comment on how TDKR performed compared to TDK I suggest you to do so on the appropriate threads.
That would be 1.01, not 1.21 though.
If you dont agree that it was the underdog superhero movie of the summer then you being ridiculous
And saying that a 230M film featuring one of the most popular characters in the comic book history and overall pop culture, rebooting a generally beloved and billion dollar making franchise is an "underdog" makes total sense. Sure.
It wasn't has hyped as TDKR or The Avengers no one will deny but that doesn't make it an underdog either while NONE of those film were direct competition in its first 17 days. Then again no other external factor to blame for its performances (and domestic performances in particular) other than the film itself.
It was Fan's realistic expectation in this very thread before the release
Here's what a "realistic" expectation is in my books:
This comes from a late june press release from Box Office Analyst.
The third quarter of 2012 flies on to screens when Columbia Pictures THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN, opens on July 3. Starring Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone, this version of Spider-Man should collect nearly $325 million from its theatrical run in U.S. theatres, according to Box Office Analyst.
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Here's a July 2 article from MTV.com:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1688949/amazing-spider-man-box-office-predictions.jhtml
Jeff Bock, box-office analyst for Exhibitor Relations Company, predicted a first-day gross of "at least $30 million" and a six-day total in the neighborhood of $150 million.
TASM made 137M in its first 6 days.
Who said that?
Total Recall hasnt even crossed 28M overseas
Sony did, the exact same guys that were pleased with TASM's domestic numbers. The same guys that lowballed TR's budget in a last minute desperate sting to make the movie's performances look better than they really are. Weird right ???
Adjustment gave the wrong number
You didn't have to adjust any numbers. The only thing you had to do was making a simple division between projected/actual grosses and production budget numbers. But yet your biased views and willingness to make your point without simply checking the numbers made you write something that was both flat out stupid and completely untrue. Not the first time it happens, maybe I should get used to it.
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