The animated series in 2006

[TheVileOne]

He nailed the character as he was written.

And he was written pretty much just like the comic.

I question if you've actually read the comics.

 

[Spider Ham]

And I question if you have.

Abe is always the more soft spoken guy. He's usually the guy who's got the information that Hellboy needs, and he often gets his ass kicked.

That's pretty much what we got in the movie.

 

[TheVileOne]

He kicks ass as well which he did not in the movie. And he doesn't just drop protective ward/charms.

He didn't really give Hellboy any important information either. They made him into this prissy, intellectual scientist type. And Abe isn't a scientist.

 

[WallCrawl]

He kicks ass as well which he did not in the movie. And he doesn't just drop protective ward/charms.

He didn't really give Hellboy any important information either. They made him into this prissy, intellectual scientist type. And Abe isn't a scientist.

Didn't he used to be?

 

[Spider Ham]

Abe is a scientist!

He brought Roger back to life and installed the generator in him!

The story is called "Abe Sapien Vs. Science"!

Abe only kicks ass in the comics when he really has too. What did you expect him to do against two Sammaels?

 

[TheVileOne]

Not cower in a corner like a little wussy. And then get written out of the third act.

 

[WalkingDead]

When do these animated films come out? Are they Direct-to-DVD? Sorry if it's been said, but I scanned the thread and didn't see a release date.

 

[Hellmistress]

When do these animated films come out? Are they Direct-to-DVD? Sorry if it's been said, but I scanned the thread and didn't see a release date.

They will be screened in October, I believe. Then onto DVD, and a hope that it goes to series.

HM

 

[WallCrawl]

They will be screened in October, I believe. Then onto DVD, and a hope that it goes to series.

HM

These DVD's I'm getting for sure. I was sorely disappointed with how Ultimate Avengers turned out, and I have higher hopes and expectations for these. Do you know anything about the Amazing Screw-On head project?

 

[Hellmistress]

Do you know anything about the Amazing Screw-On head project?

'Fraid not, other than I believe it's announced and cast. What the state of play is at present, I haven't a clue.

HM

 

[WallCrawl]

'Fraid not, other than I believe it's announced and cast. What the state of play is at present, I haven't a clue.

HM

Boourns.

 

[Deep Six]

TheVileOne suggested there should be a "love triangle situation with Kate, Hellboy and Liz" & also said "there's never been Liz/Hellboy in the comics, it always hinted at Kate/Hellboy".
I agree, but Del Toro took it another way and now we're stuck with it. Don't get me wrong, I find the HB/Liz love match alright...but being a big fan of the comic, it doesn't always sit right with me.

Also, those of you who read all the Weird Tales will know; a few of the featured artist also hinted that there was an HB/Liz thing going on...adding on to the phenomenon. (But at least one hinted the Liz & Abe match..)

I sure hope the animated series will be adult enough to carry the name HELLBOY and explore more mature subjects...
(ie: Character relationships, big scary monsters and Nazis)

I really, REALLY think they should have Lobster Johnson in there...they MUST!!!

The cartoon characters are ok...but I'm of the ones who would have liked to see more of a Mignola-oriented design being adopted here.
I have to say - I really don't like LIZ, she looks like a 16 year old Asian girl...too far from what she looks like in the comics. She's not suppose to be "cute"!

What about the animators from Disney's Atlantis...they were assisted by Mignola after all. Are they involved at all?

 

[WallCrawl]

What about the animators from Disney's Atlantis...they were assisted by Mignola after all. Are they involved at all?

It's being produced by IDT Entertainment and not Disney, so I would assume no.

Fore those who haven't seen it yet, here's the Kate character design:

Seems like all the female characters are going to end up looking like tweens. That's right, not even teens. Tweens. Which is extremely odd in this case because Kate is going to be voiced by Peri Gilpin, (Roz on Fraiser) who has a throaty, mature sounding voice.

 

[Deep Six]

Yeah, that's another thing that seems odd - Theses characters look cute, but Ron's voice is deep...so will it match the character?
Same thing for Blaire & Gilpin...dunno.

And I don't like the big eyes.
But they seem pretty acurate with their clothes.

 

[WallCrawl]

Yeah, that's another thing that seems odd - Theses characters look cute, but Ron's voice is deep...so will it match the character?
Same thing for Blaire & Gilpin...dunno.

And I don't like the big eyes.
But they seem pretty acurate with their clothes.

Despite the look of the characters, it's going to be their actions, dialogueand the mood and atmosphere of the films that will set the tone. Keep in mind that animated characters aren't defined by how they look, but how they move and act.

 

[TheVileOne]

TheVileOne suggested there should be a "love triangle situation with Kate, Hellboy and Liz" & also said "there's never been Liz/Hellboy in the comics, it always hinted at Kate/Hellboy".
I agree, but Del Toro took it another way and now we're stuck with it. Don't get me wrong, I find the HB/Liz love match alright...but being a big fan of the comic, it doesn't always sit right with me.

No we aren't because there isn't a sequel going on right now.

But the guys behind animated Hellboy seem to agree with me on Hellboy/Kate. Here is what they wrote:

Kate Corrigan
People have asked what other Mignola characters are in the movies. There are a couple more, some major, some minor. Kate Corrigan has a major role in the first of our movies. She's played by Peri Gilpin who I'm sure you recognize as "Roz" from FRASIER. Before the BPRD series, Kate was often overlooked by fans of the comics. But when Hellboy comes face to face with the implications of his right hand, who does it talk to? When he quits the BPRD, who does he tell? Kate Corrigan, and he tells her in a way that suggests a deeper relationship. In my opinion, if HB was going to settle down with anyone, it'd be Kate. But I doubt we'll be exploring Hellboy's romances; we'll consider the two of them just really dear friends.

Also, those of you who read all the Weird Tales will know; a few of the featured artist also hinted that there was an HB/Liz thing going on...adding on to the phenomenon. (But at least one hinted the Liz & Abe match..)

In all the Mignola ones and the original graphic novel, there really is NOTHING going on between Hellboy and Liz. Hellboy just refers to her as one of his best friends. But he never has those deeply personal talks with Liz Sherman that he CONSTANTLY has with Kate Corrigan.

I sure hope the animated series will be adult enough to carry the name HELLBOY and explore more mature subjects...
(ie: Character relationships, big scary monsters and Nazis)

I really, REALLY think they should have Lobster Johnson in there...they MUST!!!

The cartoon characters are ok...but I'm of the ones who would have liked to see more of a Mignola-oriented design being adopted here.
I have to say - I really don't like LIZ, she looks like a 16 year old Asian girl...too far from what she looks like in the comics. She's not suppose to be "cute"!

I'm not too high on the animated designs either. Though I do like Abe's. For one thing, in the comics though, Liz always seemed kind of haggard, not cute, so I'm with you there.

Also, anyone know what the length on these DVD "movies" will be? Will they actually be feature lengthed or only 70 minutes like the new animated Marvel ones?

 

[Deep Six]

In all the Mignola ones and the original graphic novel, there really is NOTHING going on between Hellboy and Liz. Hellboy just refers to her as one of his best friends. But he never has those deeply personal talks with Liz Sherman that he CONSTANTLY has with Kate Corrigan.

Yeah...I know, thats why I said some Weird Tales with featured artists (not Mignola)- also hinted that there was an HB/Liz thing going on...adding on to the phenomenon.
Like the story with goatman. ECT

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But I like the Abe Sapien design as well- it's neet

 

[TheVileOne]

The sequel's in development purgatory right now and Del Toro is moving on to other projects at the moment. The sequel could very well get scrapped.

 

[Hellmistress]

The sequel's in development purgatory right now and Del Toro is moving on to other projects at the moment. The sequel could very well get scrapped.

GdT is in the middle of finishing up Pan's Labyrinth, and his intention is to do Hellboy 2: The Golden Army next. Budgeting is the big discussion at the moment, but despite Revolution Studios' problems, I have a feeling HB2 will get off the ground this year. GdT had hellacious problems getting Pan made, and there were a number of delays at the back end of 2004, but he still got the film made - a few months late, but he did it. He's not the kind of guy to give up on a project he loves and has sweated blood over.

Don't write HB2 off just yet.

HM

 

[TheVileOne]

He did Hellboy though. And didn't you even post information that he might be doing something else first?

Studios being the way they are now, I question how serious they are about greenlighting a sequel.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

GdT is in the middle of finishing up Pan's Labyrinth, and his intention is to do Hellboy 2: The Golden Army next. Budgeting is the big discussion at the moment, but despite Revolution Studios' problems, I have a feeling HB2 will get off the ground this year. GdT had hellacious problems getting Pan made, and there were a number of delays at the back end of 2004, but he still got the film made - a few months late, but he did it. He's not the kind of guy to give up on a project he loves and has sweated blood over.

Don't write HB2 off just yet.

HM

Well if we dont hear anything this year my optimism will drown, and i cant see the sequel happening if the above occurs.

 

[Hellmistress]

He did Hellboy though. And didn't you even post information that he might be doing something else first?

Studios being the way they are now, I question how serious they are about greenlighting a sequel.

T'wern't me. Other than he was in talks regarding Killing in Carnival Row, which I think he may just do. I DID say that I almost wouldn't mind if he did this one first, as I find the project fascinating ... but I reiterate ... almost.

As far as I know GdT has every intention to do HB2 next, and if he is foiled in this, it doesn't mean the film will never be made. It took him 7 years to get Hellboy on the big screen, and it has taken longer than that for Pan. He also has At The Mountains of Madness planned, although that one is still a ways off I reckon. But that one has been 10 years in the planning so far, so I guess it will get made eventually. He is a very tenacious fellow, thank goodness, and I'm not writing HB2 off until Guillermo says so.

HM

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

T'wern't me. Other than he was in talks regarding Killing in Carnival Row, which I think he may just do. I DID say that I almost wouldn't mind if he did this one first, as I find the project fascinating ... but I reiterate ... almost.

As far as I know GdT has every intention to do HB2 next, and if he is foiled in this, it doesn't mean the film will never be made. It took him 7 years to get Hellboy on the big screen, and it has taken longer than that for Pan. He also has At The Mountains of Madness planned, although that one is still a ways off I reckon. But that one has been 10 years in the planning so far, so I guess it will get made eventually. He is a very tenacious fellow, thank goodness, and I'm not writing HB2 off until Guillermo says so.

HM

But Ron Perlman wont be able to wait forever for a sequel to get going, he is not a young man and wont be in this shape forever, i dont care what anyone says, his body will not be able to take it much longer.

 

[Deep Six]

But Ron Perlman wont be able to wait forever for a sequel to get going, he is not a young man and wont be in this shape forever, i dont care what anyone says, his body will not be able to take it much longer.

hahah, have faith in the Ron Perlman...

Although, it's true they had some problems when it came to using Ron's old face cast from beauty & the beast. But I don't think a few years between the first & second movie will make much of a difference.

 

[Hellmistress]

News on Tad's blog is that Mr John Hurt is reprising his role as Professor Bruttenholm (Broom). Man, this just gets better and better ...

HM