The Avengers The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread

[JB-the-Hunter]

Vast majority still would have associated it with toys. Battleship's a board game that everyone's played. Just saying, they wouldn't have made the movie if they didn't think they could tap into people's awareness of said board game, doesn't matter if it's ****, which it probably will be judging from what we've seen so far.

The point is, battleship is just an old board game. Transformers, Legos, GI Joe are all toys that make sense to adapt as movies. If they made monopoly or the game of life into a movie that'd be another story... but battleship? seriously?

 

[jmc]

The point is, battleship is just an old board game. Transformers, Legos, GI Joe are all toys that make sense to adapt as movies. If they made monopoly or the game of life into a movie that'd be another story... but battleship? seriously?

Who hasn't played Battleship? That's probably the exact thing someone at the studio said in order to get it green lit, and it's a fair question, we've all played it and that's what they're banking on, as ill-conceived a plan as I believe (hope) it to be.

 

[The Morningstar]

Battleship could have been cool, if they did it like a modern day Master and Commander. Two ships hunting each other in the Pacific or something. Think Hunt for Red October, but with ships instead of subs.

 

[Liam_H]

Only thing that makes Battleship a box office threat is Rihanna. She's pretty much the biggest star in the world right now.

Really? Is this a legit statement or are you being hyperbolic?

 

[The Morningstar]

I don't see it as being hyperbolic. I mean, it's ****ing Rihanna, she's so hot right now [/Mugatu]

 

[Liam_H]

Ehh, I might be in the small minority but I don't care for her. I found her appealing when she first came out in 2005 but now ever since then I think she's trying to hard.

 

[The Morningstar]

I like a few of her tunes. There is no denying she's the biggest pop star in the world right now. Maybe just the biggest most popular celebrity in general.

I mean just quickly looking on youtube, her songs regularly have over 100 million views. Ridiculous. Not even Lady Gaga or Beyonce compares.

It's pretty clear the only reason she's involved in this movie is because of her staggering popularity and huge in built fan base. Plus all these movies need to have a hot chick.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

Ehh, I might be in the small minority but I don't care for her. I found her appealing when she first came out in 2005 but now ever since then I think she's trying to hard.

Waaay to hard. She used to be a cutie, but now she's a butch

 

[The Morningstar]

Butch? lol she's the complete opposite of butch. She looks like a dirty little slag more than anything. Which i have no problem with.

 

[Shadowlord X]

I like a few of her tunes. There is no denying she's the biggest pop star in the world right now. Maybe just the biggest most popular celebrity in general.

I mean just quickly looking on youtube, her songs regularly have over 100 million views. Ridiculous. Not even Lady Gaga or Beyonce compares.

It's pretty clear the only reason she's involved in this movie is because of her staggering popularity and huge in built fan base. Plus all these movies need to have a hot chick.

The question is though does putting a popular music star translate to improved BO gross. No movie comes to my mind to support this theory.

 

[Godzilla2000]

I predict that this movie is going to make an awful lot of money. Is that a pretty fair assessment?

 

[The Morningstar]

The question is though does putting a popular music star translate to improved BO gross. No movie comes to my mind to support this theory.

It's definitely questionable. But still, I don't think the motive for casting Rihanna was to do with her amazing acting talent.

 

[Godzilla2000]

Who gives a crap about that Battleship movie!? Why are we even talking about it?

 

[The Morningstar]

Because it comes out 2 weeks after Avengers. We're talking about whether it is competition.

 

[Godzilla2000]

It's a ridiculous idea! How does Alien Invasion even evoke the Battleship boardgame? Why couldn't they have made it a period piece and set it in WWII with the Battleship Yamato being the adversary? Crap in a bucket that's a more engaging idea to me than alien invasion. I'm guessing people will be saying "You sunk my Battleship!" in the movie somewhere too.

 

[cherokeesam]

It's a ridiculous idea! How does Alien Invasion even evoke the Battleship boardgame? Why couldn't they have made it a period piece and set it in WWII with the Battleship Yamato being the adversary? Crap in a bucket that's a more engaging idea to me than alien invasion. I'm guessing people will be saying "You sunk my Battleship!" in the movie somewhere too.

I want to hear them saying:
"A4."
"Miss. B3."
"Hit."
"A5."
"Miss. B2."
"Hit. You sank my battleship!"

Yeah, that's high concept right there....doesn't get more exciting than that.....

And as for the Rihanna hype....as mentioned above, and mentioned previously by me, big pop stars almost never translate to big movie box office. Whitney Houston is one exception, although The Bodyguard's success can be just as attributable to Costner --- at the time it was made, Costner and Whitney were probably the two biggest pop-culture phenoms of the time.

Otherwise, there's a whole sordid laundry list of pop tarts who failed miserably at the movies --- Britney, Xtina, Madonna, Miley, Mariah, Beyonce, Taylor, Kelly Clarkson, J Lo....Rihanna will be just one more to add to the trash heap. Living proof that music and movies rarely mix.

 

[johnirons]

I think The Avengers will make 750-850 mil worldwide (350 domestic)

 

[Xeno]

I want to hear them saying:
"A4."
"Miss. B3."
"Hit."
"A5."
"Miss. B2."
"Hit. You sank my battleship!"

Yeah, that's high concept right there....doesn't get more exciting than that.....

And as for the Rihanna hype....as mentioned above, and mentioned previously by me, big pop stars almost never translate to big movie box office. Whitney Houston is one exception, although The Bodyguard's success can be just as attributable to Costner --- at the time it was made, Costner and Whitney were probably the two biggest pop-culture phenoms of the time.

Otherwise, there's a whole sordid laundry list of pop tarts who failed miserably at the movies --- Britney, Xtina, Madonna, Miley, Mariah, Beyonce, Taylor, Kelly Clarkson, J Lo....Rihanna will be just one more to add to the trash heap. Living proof that music and movies rarely mix.

Now, now. This isn't always the case. Or have you forgotten that Macy Grey appeared in Spider-Man? That was a big hit and I'm sure that Ms. Grey's appearance was one reason why.

 

[Chewy]

Because it comes out 2 weeks after Avengers. We're talking about whether it is competition.

It comes out two weeks before AND two weeks after Avengers

It won't be competition

 

[Chewy]

But that doesn't add $400 million extra. To get that requires substantial repeated viewings, the likes of which are rare for superheroes, even with a 3D inflation. I'm not saying any of this to start a flame war, if it makes a billion dollars it makes it and I could care less to be honest, but the logic I've read behind it getting there from some is a little bit off.

Please look at the international increase of Transformers 3 a year ago if you don't understand the logic

There are literally more than 6 times as many theaters in countries like Russia and China as there were 2 years ago

 

[warhorse78]

Transformers? I guarantee you the vast majority of cinema goers who watched film one had no-idea of Transformers being anything more than a toy.

I'm speaking from a general audience's view, I swear, I kid you not. When I saw the first teaser, the one on Mars, I just thought the trailer was very eerie, and I love my alien stories. I still went into the theater noting that it was once a cartoon and toy series (ones I never got into) I remember the semi truck, and I thought he was known as Megatron, since that would be the only Transformer I could name. When I finally saw the movie, I saw it with fresh eyes, and loved every minute of it.

I'll be doing the same with the Avengers. I never followed the comics on Thor, Ironman or Captain America, I just went because the movies looked like they'd be fun, and this new movie coming out is of no exception. LOTR did the same thing, I don't remember the books, but damn, when I saw the first movie, I loved every second of it.

 

[warhorse78]

I hate having to explain this over and over... but if I hear one more person call John Carter a Star Wars or Avatar rip-off I'm going to pull my hair out. John Carter is based on a 100 (yes... one hundred, as in 60 years before star wars) year old book series written by Edgar Rice Burroughs. James Cameron, George Lucas and even J.R.R. Tolkein used it as inspiration for Avatar, Star Wars and even Lord of the Rings.



And an animated tv series.



I said I wonder what year holds the title for the highest grossing movies of all time...

I don't know that, nor should I when watching the first trailer. I never heard of this, ever until the trailer came out, and I doubt I am the only one.

Also, concerning Battleship, I never knew it was based on the board game. I don't remember aliens in it. I just thought the movie was a loose sequel to that Battle Los Angeles movie. That movie kind of sucked, and this one don't look that much better, and I wouldn't have known that was Rhianna if my friends hadn't pointed it out. She's ok, but nothing revolutionary.

 

[Chewy]

Actually I'll just post the numbers here, so you don't have to look them up

Transformers 1 Foreign Gross:$390,463,587
Transformers 2 Foreign Gross:$434,191,823
~44M increase

Iron Man 1 Foreign Gross:$266,762,121
Iron Man 2 Foreign Gross:$311,500,000
~45M increase

Basically the same increase.

Now add 3D + the explosion in foreign theater counts

Transformers 2 Foreign Gross:$434,191,823
Transformers 3 Foreign Gross:$771,356,453
~340M increase

 

[BigThor]

Actually I'll just post the numbers here, so you don't have to look them up

Now add 3D + the explosion in foreign theater counts

Transformers 2 Foreign Gross:$434,191,823
Transformers 3 Foreign Gross:$771,356,453
~340M increase

Wow and that's not even including the fact that the Avengers has the "bringing together heroes with their own individual films" factor, which would give it more of an edge than if it were simply a direct sequel.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Transformers? I guarantee you the vast majority of cinema goers who watched film one had no-idea of Transformers being anything more than a toy.

The Transformer cartoons (there have been several versions for the last three decades) are just as well known as the Transformer toys and most fanboys and nerds are aware of the extensive comic book history as well.

Maybe everyone over 45 years old thought Transformers was only a toyline. But generation X and Y knew better.

and the names Optimus Prime and Megatron were just as recognizable for people under 45 as Iron Man before they were featured in movies.