The Avengers The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread

[cherokeesam]

The saying you refer to is the exact reason, I am not making any specfic box office predictions this year.
But , I do believe the myth Of "Superhero Fatigue " will be dispelled this Summer.

Yeah, it always amuses and bemuses me when critics try to come up with "superhero fatigue" every year to try to say the "fad" is over. "Superhero" is a GENRE, not a fad, and trying to say "superhero fatigue" is like someone trying to say "OMG Western fatigue" back in the 1950s in (vain) hopes that the genre would die off from oversaturation.

 

[Splat]

Yeah, it always amuses and bemuses me when critics try to come up with "superhero fatigue" every year to try to say the "fad" is over. "Superhero" is a GENRE, not a fad, and trying to say "superhero fatigue" is like someone trying to say "OMG Western fatigue" back in the 1950s in (vain) hopes that the genre would die off from oversaturation.

Exactly, I made the same point a few weeks ago.

 

[Shadowlord X]

That's just coming from folks who don't like the genre and are trying to use the power of suggestion on the public.

 

[marcvader]

I could see the frequency slowing down better it will never stop. People grow up with the idea of superheroes and therefore will always be interested in this genre.

 

[Raiden]

I don't really see the studios ever stop making superhero movies, since both Sony and Fox have shown that they'd rather reboot their Marvel franchises than give them up so Marvel can get the rights back. Although I want the rights to be reverted back to Marvel Studios, this arrangement would ensure that this genre will always be stocked with at least one superhero movie every year until they finally stopped doing it.

 

[eddy]

Yeah, it always amuses and bemuses me when critics try to come up with "superhero fatigue" every year to try to say the "fad" is over. "Superhero" is a GENRE, not a fad, and trying to say "superhero fatigue" is like someone trying to say "OMG Western fatigue" back in the 1950s in (vain) hopes that the genre would die off from oversaturation.

I agree with you except for the fact that you cite the western genre cause it did die off They only make them now sparingly. I don't want that to happen to comic book movies. They will continue to make superhero movies as long as people are going to see them. What I honestly want to see are more "adaptions" or specific stories in comic books like Dark Knight Returns or Secret Wars.

 

[Weadazoid]

I feel pretty good about the Avengers chances of opening huge. and I think it will have strong legs, face it, Battleship looks uber corny and will be the summers first flop. I place it right there with Presit in terms of it's ability to flop hard

The Lorax did very well which shows if you get some kinds invovled it could be huge, I think the Avengers while looking like a spectackle also looks tame enough to get the 7 to 10 and up boys and girls crowd invovled.


Face it this is a version of the HUlk I think Parents may feel better about, TIH was pretty intense to the point where the hulk looked kinda scarry, and the Abomination was pretty freaky looking.


I think the Avengers will come off as the "very cool" spectackle movie, hopefully taking the place of Transformers money wise.


SPiderman is the real dark horse, I mean people love spidey, but it looks very dark, darker then Rami's version, more inline with what Nolans Bat has brought us.

 

[eddy]

Wow. I just looked at Lorax's 70 million opening on BOM. Talk about surprising.

 

[Weadazoid]

yeah and with Marvel going all out with Lego stuff and other kids stuff now hopefully they draw some serious bank form that end.

 

[cherokeesam]

Wow. I just looked at Lorax's 70 million opening on BOM. Talk about surprising.

Never underestimate kids' movies. "Experts" like to try to focus on target audience demographics and talk about this age group or this ethnicity or this gender or this social class, but the fact remains that tweens and younger kids can account for more box office clout than grownups any old weekend.

 

[OB12]

If my son were 6-8 instead of 2, I'm sure he'd love The Avengers and I'd be taking him. That said I did see a kid (probably 3 or so) at his daycare yesterday with an Avengers t-shirt. It featured some of the promotional art of Thor, Cap and IM.

 

[cherokeesam]

If my son were 6-8 instead of 2, I'm sure he'd love The Avengers and I'd be taking him. That said I did see a kid (probably 3 or so) at his daycare yesterday with an Avengers t-shirt. It featured some of the promotional art of Thor, Cap and IM.

Eh, I've seen plenty of comic-book/Avenger stuff for babies and toddlers. Marvel likes to recruit 'em when they're young.

 

[Liam_H]

Superhero movies won't die out but the frequency of output would certainly decrease eventually. Audiences are not going to embrace every hero that is thrown at them. So the super budget blockbuster types would slow down while lesser budget property will get tested.

 

[Weadazoid]

Superhero movies won't die out but the frequency of output would certainly decrease eventually. Audiences are not going to embrace every hero that is thrown at them. So the super budget blockbuster types would slow down while lesser budget property will get tested.

this is the golden age of super hero films - I think we all know that




waiting for Hollywood to step up and start big block busters of popular Manga anime's next



I so want Evangelion and Escaflowne on the big screen


Ninja Scroll would be a nice R rated serious movie -I could see a Zack SNyder type grabbing that one.




Transformers started it.


Sorry to say DragonBall failed bro - but I never liked that series.

 

[Liam_H]

Most anime/manga would hardly work in Hollywood especially if they choose to Americanize all of them.

 

[marcvader]

Hollywood has no clue when it comes to anime.

 

[Raiden]

Hollywood has no clue when it comes to anime.

Agreed completely. As an anime fan, I was appalled by the DB:E movie, and news of Hollywood adapting Akira and Breach didn't make me want to see them because I know they will f*** them up. I'll just keep watching anime in the way they're supposed to be seen.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

Agreed completely. As an anime fan, I was appalled by the DB:E movie, and news of Hollywood adapting Akira and Breach didn't make me want to see them because I know they will f*** them up. I'll just keep watching anime in the way they're supposed to be seen.

They'll get it eventually, it took them this long to understand how to do a good Superhero movie.

 

[Weadazoid]

Most anime/manga would hardly work in Hollywood especially if they choose to Americanize all of them.

yeah thats a problem. I mean Ninja Scroll could work if you got Donny Yen or Jet Li to play Jubie KIbogami, but you better beleive they would get someone like the Rock or VIn Diesel to play Lord Gamma.


There is a part of me that thinks Escaflowne and Evangelion could work with a westernized theme - just because with both of them they are not strictly japanese in theme. Evangelion ties into biblical events, and while it takes place in Japan, Characters like Aska are from Germany.


Princess Monanoke would have to remain japanese.


THose are my top 3 or 4 movies I would dig seeing become huge CGI fest summer block busters

 

[The Morningstar]

The only way to make a good anime film is for Hollywood to basically fund the original Japanese creators, let the guys who know what they are doing make the movie, Hollywood just backs them up with resources.

 

[BigThor]

The only way to make a good anime film is for Hollywood to basically fund the original Japanese creators, let the guys who know what they are doing make the movie, Hollywood just backs them up with resources.

Agreed 100%

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Hollywood has no clue when it comes to anime.

or video games.

 

[warhorse78]

Never underestimate kids' movies. "Experts" like to try to focus on target audience demographics and talk about this age group or this ethnicity or this gender or this social class, but the fact remains that tweens and younger kids can account for more box office clout than grownups any old weekend.

And it's very easy to see why. Movies like The Lorax would bring in the younger children, and those younger children bring their parents/grandparents/older siblings to bring them, which ups the box office.

 

[PowerPacked]

Hey. Remember when you dismissed any and all negative talk about Green Lantern's BO prospects, no matter who it was from, or what the content was, with "Marvel fanboys getting nervous! LOL! Just wait til this movie crushes Thor and Captain America! LOL!"

Do you not see how some might find this response a tad hypocritical?

Might want to PM him that in case he conveniently decides to leave.

 

[PowerPacked]

Also, trailer hit 17 million views now.