The Avengers The Avengers Critics Reviews Thread - Part 2

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I think some people realize with the Arkham City video game that there are quality options cinematically outside of the "Law and Order Batman world" Nolan crafted.

Do we want penguins strapped to rocket or a Gotham filled with glo-sticks? No

Do we want an ingenious Batman in a classic grey and black costume fighting Clayface and Mr.Freeze in between impressive detective work and escape artistry? Most definitely.

And you'll probably get that next time. The comics have been switching things up for 70 years. Why can't the movies do the same?

Either way, you guys might not like this review, especially the opening paragraph, but I think it's very fair.
http://themovieboy.com/reviews/a/12_avengers.htm
 
Thread derailments are nice (and frequent) but positive Avengers reviews are a lot nicer.


E Online Movie Review: The Avengers Is Simply Super (Grade: A)

Review in a Hurry: The Avengers surpasses huge expectations built up by the recent series of pretty great Marvel superhero movies. Iron Man, Captain America, Thor and (best of all) The Hulk are recruited to save our tiny blue planet, and the ensuing action is, in a word, incredible.


With snappy writing and a full roster of fleshed-out characters, the whole thing is a smash, from start to finish.
 
Another! From ABC News.

Review: ‘The Avengers’ (4.5/5)


So — was “The Avengers” worth the hype, and the wait? Hell yes! As a super hero movie about familiar characters many have been waiting years to see assembled like this, “The Avengers” is a cathartic, wildly entertaining and imaginative experience that speaks to all generations of comic book fans and then some.


David Blaustein is apparently the film critic on Good Morning America, which means he has a large morning audience. The Two Chrises were on GMA yesterday, doing good PR for the movie.
 
Thread derailments are nice (and frequent) but positive Avengers reviews are a lot nicer.


E Online Movie Review: The Avengers Is Simply Super (Grade: A)

Awesome, I'm a long time lurker and first time poster, I came here because I was actually getting tired of J. Howlett's passive agressive talk, always trying to bring negative reviews from amateurs to this thread. Give a ****ing break dude, it's not The Avengers fault that TDKR's trailer looked so ****ing boring.

Also, I agree with Harry about TDKR, it's about time for a new take on Batman. If there's one thing that The Avengers gives as legacy for the next generation of movies based on comic books is that it is possible. It is possible to be faithful and proud of your comic book origins and still do an amazing movie.

NO ONE wants a less realistic or serious Batman, but we could go without the silly growling voice or the pathetic fighting scenes. And most of all, I want a Batman that it'll embrace the fantastical elements, a Batman patrolling Gotham and being a ****ing detective for a change. Arkham Asylum proves that there's a market for this kind of Batman out there.
 
Awesome, I'm a long time lurker and first time poster, I came here because I was actually getting tired of J. Howlett's passive agressive talk, always trying to bring negative reviews from amateurs to this thread. Give a ****ing break dude, it's not The Avengers fault that TDKR's trailer looked so ****ing boring.

Also, I agree with Harry about TDKR, it's about time for a new take on Batman. If there's one thing that The Avengers gives as legacy for the next generation of movies based on comic books is that it is possible. It is possible to be faithful and proud of your comic book origins and still do an amazing movie.

NO ONE wants a less realistic or serious Batman, but we could go without the silly growling voice or the pathetic fighting scenes. And most of all, I want a Batman that it'll embrace the fantastical elements, a Batman patrolling Gotham and being a ****ing detective for a change. Arkham Asylum proves that there's a market for this kind of Batman out there.


Welcome iJackSparrow.

Try not to get fustrated by devotees of other franchises/rival companies who low grade troll here to be a killjoy to MARVEL fans.

However I must disagree with the bolded sttement. There are many people, myself included (a fan of Burton's Batman) who want a less realistic Batman.

People who love nolanverse often try to paint a picture of extremes as if nolanverse and ShoemakerBatman are the only 2 options. Thus if we were not getting nolanverse we would be getting B&R. Needless to say this is absolute bollocks.
 
It amazes me that there is a need to talk trash about Nolan's Bats here. How can one complain about trolling and then do just that?
 
Nolans films are awesome but after three of them I'm ready for something different. And an Arkham City-esque Batman movie would be pretty damned amazing.

I'm with you, I enjoyed bout Batman Begins and TDK but I'd rather see something more along the lines of Arkham City's style.

It amazes me that there is a need to talk trash about Nolan's Bats here. How can one complain about trolling and then do just that?

Yes it's very annoying, however it's even more prevalent in the DC threads which I rarely visit them.
 
How can the Salon review be rotten? He said in the review that he liked the movie better than Thor and IM2 which are rated positive. Thats pretty inconsistent.
 
How can the Salon review be rotten? He said in the review that he liked the movie better than Thor and IM2 which are rated positive. Thats pretty inconsistent.

More like pretty stupid :oldrazz:
 
I don't understand why employers would send critics that don't like a certain genre to such a movie. Are they not liked in the office? If you send someone who doesn't get superheroes to a superhero movie you know what you are going to get.
 
I don't understand why employers would send critics that don't like a certain genre to such a movie. Are they not liked in the office? If you send someone who doesn't get superheroes to a superhero movie you know what you are going to get.

For the second time, I agree :word:
 
I don't understand why employers would send critics that don't like a certain genre to such a movie. Are they not liked in the office? If you send someone who doesn't get superheroes to a superhero movie you know what you are going to get.

Yes, this aggravates me to no end.
 
This might be one of those movies that tests the relevancy of critics. If you hate a movie the general audience loves, you shouldn't be reviewing movies for the general audience. End of story.

Some critics - the Village Voice for instance - are read by more niche (i.e. pretentious) crowds. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Ragging on a mainstream hit is, in its own way, playing to the readership, thus fair enough.

But, seriously, mainstream critics hating on something the audience adores = time to find a new critic.
 
I said earlier in the thread that this is like having a racist judge rule on a case involving a minority. I dont think its out of line to expect the same impartiality from movie critics. Or for 'rulings' to be consistent. And like the law, we have precedent with movie reviews. How can somebody give Green Lantern a positive review and not Avengers? Which by all accounts is better in every single way. The inconsistency is baffling to me how critics trash this and give positive reviews to Conan the Barbarian, Step Up 3D, TF3, The Change Up, and all of these other trainwrecks! Not even giving Avengers any points for being daring or a brand new concept to cinema. These agendas are childish.
 
I don't understand why employers would send critics that don't like a certain genre to such a movie. Are they not liked in the office? If you send someone who doesn't get superheroes to a superhero movie you know what you are going to get.

I said earlier in the thread that this is like having a racist judge rule on a case involving a minority. I dont think its out of line to expect the same impartiality from movie critics. Or for 'rulings' to be consistent. And like the law, we have precedent with movie reviews. How can somebody give Green Lantern a positive review and not Avengers? Which by all accounts is better in every single way. The inconsistency is baffling to me how critics trash this and give positive reviews to Conan the Barbarian, Step Up 3D, TF3, The Change Up, and all of these other trainwrecks! Not even giving Avengers any points for being daring or a brand new concept to cinema. These agendas are childish.
Both of you are completely right. I feel the same way. :up:
 
I said earlier in the thread that this is like having a racist judge rule on a case involving a minority. I dont think its out of line to expect the same impartiality from movie critics. Or for 'rulings' to be consistent. And like the law, we have precedent with movie reviews. How can somebody give Green Lantern a positive review and not Avengers? Which by all accounts is better in every single way. The inconsistency is baffling to me how critics trash this and give positive reviews to Conan the Barbarian, Step Up 3D, TF3, The Change Up, and all of these other trainwrecks! Not even giving Avengers any points for being daring or a brand new concept to cinema. These agendas are childish.

Why yes, they most certainly are. :dry:
 
I have to agree to you guys above. If a critic isn't able to do an impartial review he has failed his profession (hard words).
 
It amazes me that there is a need to talk trash about Nolan's Bats here. How can one complain about trolling and then do just that?


It has been brought up by other people in this thread repeatedly, despite the fact that this is The Avengers Critics Review Thread. If people would discuss the batfilms in their proper forum instead of insisting upon dragging them into this one, there would be no issue.


I try not to respond to posts about Nolan and his works at all because I don't want the mods coming down on me. But it would be much easier if people would just stop dumping it here. Do people constantly bring up The Avengers in the batforums, too? I somehow doubt that because it would not be tolerated there like the opposite is on The Avengers forums.
 
To get back on topic, another positive review of The Avengers, yet to be added to RT:

Toronto Sun: 'Avengers' assembles thrills, laughs (4/4)


The real clue that The Avengers is a superhero movie in the hands of someone keenly aware of what's wrong with superhero movies comes in the inevitable last-act CGI splurge.

Buildings are destroyed, monsters run amok, aliens invade like swarms of flying ants through a dimensional portal, repulsor rays and other beams of destruction are unleashed. This is the point where, if you've seen enough of these films, what is supposed to amaze only dazes. It is the most uninvolving part of most action films.

But with The Avengers, which opens Thursday at midnight, director Joss Whedon, whose glibness is always close to the surface in this improbable assemblage of musclebound icons, recognizes as much, and breaks up the noisy, blinding monotony with a Bugs Bunny moment or two -- the most talked-about one involving a contretemps between the Asgardian villain Loki (Tom Hiddleston) and The Hulk. If you're going to break the laws of physics anyway (cue the exploding cars), you might as well go all in and get some laughs.

[...]

But really The Avengers is a somewhat subversive piece of work, one that finds hilarity in fake catastrophes and in our very need to imagine the noisiest worst-case scenarios.

Beyond that, the script is structurally impressive for the equal time it gives the sometimes unwieldy cast. Mark Ruffalo is almost Zenlike as a Bruce Banner/Hulk who's had years to practice not getting angry (despite Tony Stark's perverse best efforts). Thor's imperiousness is just asking for a smack or two (which the movie obliges). Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow gets her emotive moments between kicking a--. Avengers do indeed assemble.

And amazingly, the parts all fit.
 
Both of you are completely right. I feel the same way. :up:

A movie critic is a movie critic is a movie critic. What you are asking for is the equivalent of sending a journalist with a clear agenda on an assignment.

Is that really what you want?
 
It has been brought up by other people in this thread repeatedly, despite the fact that this is The Avengers Critics Review Thread. If people would discuss the batfilms in their proper forum instead of insisting upon dragging them into this one, there would be no issue.


I try not to respond to posts about Nolan and his works at all because I don't want the mods coming down on me. But it would be much easier if people would just stop dumping it here. Do people constantly bring up The Avengers in the batforums, too? I somehow doubt that because it would not be tolerated there like the opposite is on The Avengers forums.

Very true :word:
 
A movie critic is a movie critic is a movie critic. What you are asking for is the equivalent of sending a journalist with a clear agenda on an assignment.

Is that really what you want?

A critic is not a journalist. And its not like we dont have biased journalists that will only tell the story or spin politics only one way. I dont like that either.
 
A critic is not a journalist. And its not like we dont have biased journalists that will only tell the story or spin politics only one way. I dont like that either.

Yeah, I don't want that either. That is why I am pretty sure most of these publications with multiple writers send them randomly in an attempt to eliminate bias.
 
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