Infinity War The Avengers: Infinity War Part I & II The Official News and Speculatio - Part 1

[Iceman]

Wasn't After Party the production code name for Age of Ultron? Like "Sputnik" was for CACW? IIRC...

Was it? Ha cool coincidence.

 

[AvengerPA]

Who is most likely to die in these movies?
http://screenrant.com/marvel-charac...-Distribution&utm_campaign=SR-FB-P&view=lista

1. Vision
2. Iron Man
3. Captain America
4. Loki
5. Hawkeye
6. Thor
7. Nebula
8. Thunderbolt Ross
9. Nick Fury
10. Red Skull
11. Heimdall
12. Hank Pym
13. Scarlet Witch
14. Drax the Destroyer
15. Thanos

 

[InternetPeople]

Part 1: Avengers: Infinity War
Part 2: The New Avengers?

https://youtu.be/1tC_DZQRLJA

The problem I have with this theory is it requires Thanos to have already completed the gauntlet and be on Earth in Part 1. And then everyone tiptoes around that fact for Ant-Man and Wasp and Captain Marvel, I guess. Also, the Russo's made it quite clear the two parts are tied together but different. I don't think the theory presented is different enough to have necessitated that comment from the Russo's. But it's all a guess right now.

 

[MbJ]

Who is most likely to die in these movies?
http://screenrant.com/marvel-charac...-Distribution&utm_campaign=SR-FB-P&view=lista

1. Vision
2. Iron Man
3. Captain America
4. Loki
5. Hawkeye
6. Thor
7. Nebula
8. Thunderbolt Ross
9. Nick Fury
10. Red Skull
11. Heimdall
12. Hank Pym
13. Scarlet Witch
14. Drax the Destroyer
15. Thanos

I will LOL if it ends up like Civil War and Age of Ultron again where almost nobody is correct.

 

[InternetPeople]

Hey, I never thought Cap would die. I said he would lay down the shield and walk away. Folks oughta listen up!

Vision bites it but he'll reform out of the stone like Warlock does in the comics (someone posted the comic panel a while back). He's on the side of life.

 

[MbJ]

Hey, I never thought Cap would die.

I was talking more about how everyone was sure War Machine would die in both films, despite how little sense it made in the latter.

 

[MbJ]

As for the video, while I do think Chobot makes some good points, I can't imagine they'd go with New Avengers.

It's pretty much a given that we will see a new Avengers team at the end of this Phase, but I can't see it happening so soon. They are still said to be part of the same arc and I can't see the finale to everything Marvel has been building since 2012 not include the original Avengers.

 

[Vartha]

I actually suspect Black Panther will fill the Stark role for Cap's side in this movie since he's certainly got the wealth and tech.

Yep. With Black Panther on his side, he really doesn't need Stark at all.

Has it been stated Stark won't go out into space and join the Guardians like he did in the comics?

 

[ernesth100]

I was talking more about how everyone was sure War Machine would die in both films, despite how little sense it made in the latter.

He really should've died in CW. Falling from 1,000 feet at 400mph in a metal body suit.

 

[Mike5575]

He really should've died in CW. Falling from 1,000 feet at 400mph in a metal body suit.

The same thing happened to Ironman 1, but Tony had plot armor.

 

[Ultron]

Yeah, the entire Infinity War wrapped up in a tidy 2 hours 23 minutes*. People got things to do.


*Thor's scene was cut due to length

 

[Ultron]

Another thing to keep in mind is that Captain Marvel's origin story DIRECTLY involves the Kree. On (or around) Earth. If that doesn't play as a HUGE connective tissue between the two Avengers films, I'll be shocked. I mean, Feige described Captain Marvel as the "bridge between the Cosmic and Earthbound MCU." The Kree coming to Earth is a pretty big deal for the entire MCU and would probably only be triggered by a huge universal threat like Thanos and the Infinity gems. So I think a good question to ask would be - what has all the other Avengers detained so that only Captain Marvel (and maybe a couple others because MCU) is left to deal with this massive global threat until the next Avengers film that comes right after it? That's not a threat you can compartmentalize so easily as the ones in the other solo flicks. It's not quick, it's not small in scope, and it's not easily gone unnoticed unless it's like a "secret invasion" or something.

Yeah, there's no way the two Avengers flicks aren't still a two-parter in some sense, imo, regardless of how different the two films may be.

The Avengers, or most, are "dead"

 

[Ultron]

To me its just weird that Infinity War is the name of the first one and not the second one, that title is better suited for the conclusion of the story.

If the Avengers have to come together for Avengers 4, could it be...

Avengers: Infinity War

Avengers: Assemble

 

[BatsDC]

They wouldn't title the fourth as Avengers: Assemble as the first movie was already called Avengers Assemble in the UK. Would be too confusing here.

 

[Ultron]

They wouldn't title the fourth as Avengers: Assemble as the first movie was already called Avengers Assemble in the UK. Would be too confusing here.

Oh ok, didn't realize they called it that there

 

[NotNickFury]

They wouldn't title the fourth as Avengers: Assemble as the first movie was already called Avengers Assemble in the UK. Would be too confusing here.

Which I really wish had been the title everywhere instead of just the UK because it would have been indicative of the team literally coming together, but I can see how calling it just The Avengers would resonate more with casual audience goers.

 

[MbJ]

I'm liking New Avengers more and more.

 

[TheVileOne]

Maybe all the Avengers die in Infinity War and the next one is New Avengers then?

 

[ernesth100]

They wouldn't title the fourth as Avengers: Assemble as the first movie was already called Avengers Assemble in the UK. Would be too confusing here.

Its simple.

Avengers: The End


Straigh forward and to the point.

 

[Ultron]

Avengers: Certified Fresh t:

 

[Relugus]

Some things I would like to point out, regarding Wanda and Vision:

Wanda is a human becoming a God-like being.
Vision is a God-like being becoming more human.
Thus, two souls on opposite paths that intersect.

At the end of Age of Ultron, Vision states that Order and Chaos are not, contrary to what humans think, opposites. Vision represents Order, Wanda represents Chaos.

Vision is powered by the Mind Gem. Wanda is not. Consider Pietro's powers, and Wanda being vastly different from Vision. Wanda's powers are connected to her emotions, wheres Vision's are not. She is, however, connected to the mind gem.
Chaos Magic is connected to emotions, and was created by the Elder God Chthon, also known by his alias, The Other.
The scepter was given to Loki by a being called The Other.
Add to that, Wanda somehow survived a Stark bomb and Hydra experiments, the odds of that are staggeringly long.
To me all the above points to hidden, latent powers which the scepter/mind gem, unlocked, with the tk and telepathy being by-products of mental augmentation. She's powered by Chaos Magic, but only uses tk because she does not know how to use magic yet.

"I control Chaos the way others control clay."
- Wanda Maximoff

We have pondered Thanos vs the Avengers/Guardians, and not considered the possibility of a power play, an opportunistic trick by a third party.

At some point there has to be a twist, a curve-ball.

I believe if there is going to be a wild card in Infinity War, it will be Chthon. He will want Wanda to fight Thanos. He wants Vision to die. With all the stones gathered in one place, with Wanda being pushed to extremes, his goal may be for her to destroy the stones in an explosion of rage. Thus, the elements of order are banished from the universe as it implodes and rebirths, and Wanda is utterly corrupted; there is nothing the Elder God loves more than destroying good people.

Thus Wanda, in those crucial moments, decides the fate of the universe...and the choice is a hellish, Catch 22/Kobyashi Maru choice between victory for Chthon or Thanos. The latter being the good option.

A central theme of Wanda's arc is control, and the death of Pietro foreshadows the end of A: Infinity War; intense grief and pain triggering a loss of control, and a loss of reason. Her growth as a person will result in her not giving in to her pain and anger.
She defeats the demon within her, but in doing so has to hand Thanos victory.

Strange then teleports Wanda to safety, doing so so as to trick Thanos into thinking she, one of the few beings who can challenge him, is dead, thus letting the Mad Titan think he has won.

Wanda's connection to the Infinity Stone sustains Vision within the Infinity Gauntlet.

"Perhaps I, too, shall be saved by love"
- Vision

At the start of Infinity War, Vision is almost certainly at Avengers HQ.
Wanda could be in all sorts of places:
1. With Team Cap
2. or if team has splintered as they hide, with Clint.
3. With Strange (though how could she, a fugitive, live in New York?)
4. With the Ancient One, at her temple.
5. With Agatha Harkness in the MCU version of New Salem.

 

[Dark Raven]

Which I really wish had been the title everywhere instead of just the UK because it would have been indicative of the team literally coming together, but I can see how calling it just The Avengers would resonate more with casual audience goers.

They only called it "Avengers Assemble" in the UK because if they called it "The Avengers", British viewers would associate that more with the British spy series Steed and Mrs Peel, and the subsequent 1998 movie "The Avengers".

Avengers Assemble didn't exactly sound good though.

Avengers: Certified Fresh t:

What would be ironic is if that's the first Marvel movie with a rotten score on RT.

 

[MbJ]

Maybe all the Avengers die in Infinity War and the next one is New Avengers then?

I can't imagine they'd kill them (not all of them) but I could see a scenario where the New Avengers are reinforcements.

 

[Sleiek]

Atleast Cap has to die in Infinity War. That might sound cruel and sound like I hate him but truth is precisely the opposite.

 

[MbJ]

We all know it'll be deadpool who dies.