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I know what you mean! To be honest I have condemned the TF franchise for all eternity since the horrifying abomination that was TF2, but the trailer for TF3 was truly mindblowing. I took one look at that and said that this will be one of the top grossing movies of the year. It was one of the best trailers I have ever seen. Still will never watch it though. THE AVENGERS needs a trailer like that to seal the deal with HUGE numbers of the GA and send the awareness and hype skyrocketingly high!!!

+1..that is a prime example of what a good trailer can do for a movie..i have never seen a theatre buzz like that after seeing a trailer. i'm sure Marvel/Disney won't disappoint
 
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+1..that movie is a prime example of what a good trailer can do for a movie..i have never seen a theatre buzz like that after seeing a trailer. i'm sure Marvel/Disney won't disappoint

I hope not and hope that the trailer actually does come out this week
 
It's strange, Marvel actually announced themselves, that the first Avengers trailer would arrive a week prior to its release, yet nothing for this one which supposedly arrives Friday.
 
That's one of the angles the X-Men played upon so well in the books: Racial prejudice.

Mutants are feared, not just because of their powers, but because they are a different race (Homo Superior), and what they potentially represent (the eventual extinction of the non-powered human race).

Augmented humans, like the FF, Spider-Man etc, get more of a pass from the public as they are still considered human in spite of their powers.

Yeah I can see that angle, but it seems odd that every person prejudice against Mutants for being overly powerful beings would give superhumans a free pass just because they used to not be overly powerful beings at some point.
 
Yeah I can see that angle, but it seems odd that every person prejudice against Mutants for being overly powerful beings would give superhumans a free pass just because they used to not be overly powerful beings at some point.
A weak man knows the value of strength.
 
If you've always had powers your whole life, how can you ever know what it's like to NOT have them, is the question they raise. Never mind what Scarlet Witch did.
 
Yeah but the vast majority, if not all, of the close-minded faction feeling that way? I dunno, just my first thoughts on the whole thing.
 
People in the marvel comic universe are very complex and also hypocrites.
Lets allow a freak like the Thing to do his stuff freelly but lets arrest and register normal looking kids like Kitty Pryde because she is Homo Superior.That makes sense.
X men clearly belong to a different universe its such a mess in the comics.Im praying the movies will not make the same mistake




mmmmmmmmmmmm.... Sentinals and Genosha peeps and people behind them would see the Thing and pretty much the entire FF as a threat..... based on the fact that thier offspring are far more likely to be mutants



Iron Man.... not so much, Cap not so much.


Thor..... not sure.... Sentinals would go after him



I think the X Men and mutants would be difficult to integrate into this MCU unless the modern X men were rebooted...... and been given the concept of existing in secrecy



I mean technically.... Hulk is a mutant.... even though he was not born a mutant..... make no mistake about it, thats the those that attach mutants would go.
 
Been catching up on The Office lately, and back 2 years ago that news didn't affect me much...

But if I were as big a fan of that show as I am now, I would be sad about John Krasinski being let go for casting of Captain America.

Chris Evans was an ACE choice, but I really think John had everything there potentially too. Shame, hope he breaks out in Hollywood soon. He deserves it.




Sorry, had to get that off my chest. :D
 
People in the marvel comic universe are very complex and also hypocrites.
Lets allow a freak like the Thing to do his stuff freelly but lets arrest and register normal looking kids like Kitty Pryde because she is Homo Superior.That makes sense.

Racial prejudice doesn't make sense, that's the point. It's an ignorant and irrational fear and hatred of something born different. With mutants it's elevated a lot further because of the likes of Magneto openly advocating mutant kind should take over the world with humans eventually being wiped out (and that was pretty much the first thing he did in X-Men 1 btw).

X men clearly belong to a different universe its such a mess in the comics.Im praying the movies will not make the same mistake
In regards the respective movie continuities, certainly, they are 2 different worlds and they couldn't just fit the X-Men world in.

Now In the hugely unlikely event Marvel were to get the X-men rights back they could (and certainly would) start over.

Remember, in the comics mutants were an unknown before the X-Men. The first superhumans the world was exposed to were the Fantastic Four, who never hid behind any secret identities. This was later revised so the Invaders of WW2 were the first, but back then Namor was not recognised as being a mutant.

Now imagine if the Marvel Movieverse world's first exposure to mutants was Magneto going on the rampage (as it was in the books). Now even if the public see him being stopped by good mutants, it's not too hard to see how the public perception of this 'new' race of beings, calling themselves 'homo superior' to boot, would not be too favourable.

Bottom line is that I think the X-Men, and the whole concept of mutants, could work just fine in the Marvel Movieverse. Cannot say I think that would ever happen though.
 
Dunno if this has been mentioned, but Cap is on the shortlist for Best Visual Effects at the Oscars, Thor wasn't so lucky:
http://collider.com/visual-effects-oscars-2012/135366/
Beverly Hills, CA (January 4, 2012) – The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences today announced that 10 films remain in the running in the Visual Effects category for the 84th Academy Awards®.

The films are listed below in alphabetical order:

“Captain America: The First Avenger”
“Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2″
“Hugo”
“Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol”
“Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides”
“Real Steel”
“Rise of the Planet of the Apes”
“Transformers: Dark of the Moon”
“The Tree of Life”
“X-Men: First Class”
 
If Apes loses, something is wrong.

That movie, in ways, breaks boundaries for the future of Hollywood and movie making.
 
mmmmmmmmmmmm.... Sentinals and Genosha peeps and people behind them would see the Thing and pretty much the entire FF as a threat..... based on the fact that thier offspring are far more likely to be mutants
Iron Man.... not so much, Cap not so much.
Thor..... not sure.... Sentinals would go after him

In 'Days of Future Past' (when Sentinels took over the world) all superhumans in America were either killed or imprisoned, no exceptions.

I think the X Men and mutants would be difficult to integrate into this MCU unless the modern X men were rebooted...... and been given the concept of existing in secrecy
Agree entirely.

I mean technically.... Hulk is a mutant.... even though he was not born a mutant..... make no mistake about it, thats the those that attach mutants would go.
Technically all human based superhumans are mutants (not counting Gods like Thor, or augmented like Iron-Man).
 
Xmen could for sure exist in the MCU. It would be Civil War for the big screen and that would be rad. Oh congrats to CA:TFA, hoping Star Spangled Man gets nom for best original song. Visual effects will go to apes or potter. Skinny Steve effects were very good though, which is why it probably beat out Thor.
 
Am I the only one not impressed by the sfx for Ceasar?

anyway, congrats to CA:TFA, but it probably goes to Hugo.
 
Aside from Skinny Steve, I thought Thor had the more impressive visual effects. For me, it would have been between Thor, TF3, and Apes. I thought the visuals in Thor were eyepopping, unique, and bold. Haven't seen Hugo yet though.
 
In 'Days of Future Past' (when Sentinels took over the world) all superhumans in America were either killed or imprisoned, no exceptions.

Agree entirely.

Technically all human based superhumans are mutants (not counting Gods like Thor, or augmented like Iron-Man).


Days of Future past was awsome Agreed.

I forget what happened in the AoA storyline..... something similar though I thought


Essentially X men for me got a lil too much shortly after the merger of a X teams after the Executioners song mini series /cross over


I thought it was AWSOME how they had they blue and gold teams How X Factor basicly rejoined the team Guido and some others became the new X Factor and the upstart X Force team lost Cable but moved on.

But shortly after that things fell apart... AoA looked kewl so I picked up a few....but never got the full set





Also face it the cross over that had Loki use Storm to try and replace Thor..... that was some increadible writting.


Gotta love the powerful mutants in Asgaurd.... esspecialy when Colosuses younger sister is recognized for just how powerful she trully is
 
Am I the only one not impressed by the sfx for Ceasar?

anyway, congrats to CA:TFA, but it probably goes to Hugo.

No. I thought it was about what one would expect for that type of film. Maybe there have been one too many monkey films for me to be easily impressed any more.

Despite its many shortcomings, Transformers should be the one to beat in sfx, IMO. The sentient robots in that franchise remain the most believable and realistic CGI beings on film, at least to me.
 
i have got a bad feeling that we wont get anything related to a trailer this week.....
 
i have got a bad feeling that we wont get anything related to a trailer this week.....

I'm starting to think the same, but we do know that whatever division/department that RIM works for, that they're supposed to get it sometime this week..but the release date to the public is the issue.
 
i have got a bad feeling that we wont get anything related to a trailer this week.....




well it is very early in the am. in Russia right now


We will see, If anything is to come up we will see it in the next 24 to 36 hours


odd that we have heard............. nada though



oh Real IM please give us some info
 
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