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[Xeno]

Some less scrupulous characters from the Marvel-verse we have yet to see on the big screen will obviously snatch up a few for personal use. AIM, perhaps.

Funny you should mention them....

Spoiler

In the movie, when Loki has Hawkeye and Selvig under his thrall they ask him where he got all the tech he had for them. He replied that SHIELD had plenty of enemies quite eager to help anyone who would bring the spy agency down. From that I deduced that HYDRA and A.I.M. are active in the MCU.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Funny you should mention them....

Spoiler

In the movie, when Loki has Hawkeye and Selvig under his thrall they ask him where he got all the tech he had for them. He replied that SHIELD had plenty of enemies quite eager to help anyone who would bring the spy agency down. From that I deduced that HYDRA and A.I.M. are active in the MCU.

I totally missed that part for some reason. [BLACKOUT] Prior to reading that, the scene seemed a little cheesy for Loki to have his own lab so quickly. [/BLACKOUT]

 

[steintym]

That Thor / Iron Man clip is pure awesome. In fact, I haven't been disappointed by one clip yet.

 

[Endeavor]

Funny you should mention them....

Spoiler

In the movie, when Loki has Hawkeye and Selvig under his thrall they ask him where he got all the tech he had for them. He replied that SHIELD had plenty of enemies quite eager to help anyone who would bring the spy agency down. From that I deduced that HYDRA and A.I.M. are active in the MCU.

[BLACKOUT]I thought of A.I.M., but it didn't occur to me it might have been Hydra too [/BLACKOUT]

 

[warhorse78]

There aren't a lot of Quality 3D movies out there out side of Avatar. Avatar is the only one did didn't seem Gimmicky in the use of 3D.

So far, I've liked Avatar, Alice in Wonderland, Transformers 3 and The Lion King in 3D. Everything else was meh.

 

[warhorse78]

I heard the original cut of The Avengers was 3 hours, before Whedon edited it down for theatrical release. I really hope to have the chance to buy the 3-hour movie for Blu-ray; it would be amazing beyond words.

Actually, I'm really hoping we can get the LOTR treatment, where in the fall, we get to see The Avengers extended edition. I'd go see it!

 

[flickchick85]

I totally missed that part for some reason. [BLACKOUT] Prior to reading that, the scene seemed a little cheesy for Loki to have his own lab so quickly. [/BLACKOUT]

It's funny, [blackout]I did catch the line, and I remember wondering, "oooh, I wonder who they're talking about!" And I assumed it would be elaborated on over the course of the film, and then it wasn't, and I forgot about it. But I literally never once thought about Hydra.[/blackout] It seems so obvious now, lol.

 

[TheVileOne]

Doubt they will make an extended cut, none of the movies before have had extended cuts made or released later.

 

[Vulklin]

I prefer long movies definitely

I wish every movie was at least 3 hours and the epic ones were 5 hours+

 

[ace69]

You sound like a person I know.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I need to understand something....the team was create to help against Loki and his alien army. But the events in Thor took place after IM & TIH. So, what was it that Fury knew?

 

[Rock Sexton]

I need to understand something....the team was create to help against Loki and his alien army. But the events in Thor took place after IM & TIH. So, what was it that Fury knew?

Fury didn't have any reason other than he wanted to have a special force ready for a situation they could not contain on their own. Many speculated that he knew of something going on all the way back as far as IM, but it's not the case. Feige even talked about some conflicting issues with the Avengers when looking back on the ending of TIH.

 

[steintym]

Kind of been wondering the same thing. Fury seemed to know something was coming after IM1 and I hope they explain that.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

Doubt they will make an extended cut, none of the movies before have had extended cuts made or released later.

When the movie becomes a classic and there's a huge demand for one maybe we will.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I think the idea of the team was just put in motion as an ultimate contingency plan. Like a really elaborate and expensive just-in-case

 

[jyd_me]

Kind of been wondering the same thing. Fury seemed to know something was coming after IM1 and I hope they explain that.

I don't think they needed to. If you think about it, ever since Red Skull was "destroyed", I'm sure the government/shield are aware that a more powerful evil may arise in the future. They had to start the Avengers initiative and recruit Iron Man since Hawkeye and Black Widow may not be strong enough for bigger battles.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Doubt they will make an extended cut, none of the movies before have had extended cuts made or released later.

Takes years usually. When they want to milk the DVD sales. Took like 15 years for bladerunner to get a directors cut

 

[flickchick85]

The way I took the whole "Why did Fury want to do this in the first place" question was that A.) Fury and SHIELD have the Tesseract. They've clearly had it for decades, they know it has great destructive power, and they probably know it came from somewhere not on Earth. So there has always been a major hypothetical threat out there since SHIELD was founded.

B.) We also know Banner had been the Hulk for a while before TIH took place, so he was probably on SHIELD's radar already, even before the events of IM. So that's already one potential "superhero" Nick Fury's got his eye on if he could ever get the Hulk under control.

C.) And surely they've always been keeping an eye on Stark considering how big a part Howard played in their organization. So when SHIELD saw that Tony Stark had created a robotic battle-suit in Afghanistan and continued the arc reactor technology his father had started, that's probably when Fury first got the idea for the Avengers, and started his obsession with finding Captain America, who they've probably always known or suspected based on the science of the super-soldier serum that he could very well still be alive if they could ever find him.

The events of Thor just made the threat seem that much more real, and the need for the Avengers that much more urgent.

 

[Herolee10]

The way I took the whole "Why did Fury want to do this in the first place" question was that A.) Fury and SHIELD have the Tesseract. They've clearly had it for decades, they know it has great destructive power, and they probably know it came from somewhere not on Earth. So there has always been a major hypothetical threat out there since SHIELD was founded.

B.) We also know Banner had been the Hulk for a while before TIH took place, so he was probably on SHIELD's radar already, even before the events of IM. So that's already one potential "superhero" Nick Fury's got his eye on if he could ever get the Hulk under control.

C.) And surely they've always been keeping an eye on Stark considering how big a part Howard played in their organization. So when SHIELD saw that Tony Stark had created a robotic battle-suit in Afghanistan and continued the arc reactor technology his father had started, that's probably when Fury first got the idea for the Avengers, and started his obsession with finding Captain America, who they've probably always known or suspected based on the science of the super-soldier serum that he could very well still be alive if they could ever find him.

The events of Thor just made the threat seem that much more real, and the need for the Avengers that much more urgent.

I guess if there's anything really left to explain is who was Fury talking about to Stark at the end of IM1 when he said that tony wasn't the only "superhero" on Earth? Because Thor wasn't discovered, Captain America was still considered MIA, and the Hulk couldn't have been considered a full superhero back then.

 

[TheVileOne]

It's irrelevant really. There could be people outside these movies. And Tony Stark wasn't the first either.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I guess if there's anything really left to explain is who was Fury talking about to Stark at the end of IM1 when he said that tony wasn't the only "superhero" on Earth? Because Thor wasn't discovered, Captain America was still considered MIA, and the Hulk couldn't have been considered a full superhero back then.

Remember all those dots on the globe at the end of IM2? It's possible SHIELD has known about them longer than Tony has been IM

 

[flickchick85]

I guess if there's anything really left to explain is who was Fury talking about to Stark at the end of IM1 when he said that tony wasn't the only "superhero" on Earth? Because Thor wasn't discovered, Captain America was still considered MIA, and the Hulk couldn't have been considered a full superhero back then.

Yes, but Captain America had already set the precedent. He was a straight-up superhero, and he was out there somewhere. And I still feel Fury would have already had his eye on Banner as a potential hero, since he was otherwise a very good man who just needed to learn to control his alter-ego.

 

[Herolee10]

Remember all those dots on the globe at the end of IM2? It's possible SHIELD has known about them longer than Tony has been IM

Perhaps, but if that were the case, and I'm not trying to nitpick or anything, but wouldn't Fury bring those heroes on the team as well during the crisis?

Yes, but Captain America had already set the precedent. He was a straight-up superhero, and he was out there somewhere. And I still feel Fury would have already had his eye on Banner as a potential hero, since he was otherwise a very good man who just needed to learn to control his alter-ego.

True; I guess it's just that the way Fury had made it sound like, it came off as though there were a large number of heroes out there in the MCU world that time that were active.

 

[T"Challa]

Remember all those dots on the globe at the end of IM2? It's possible SHIELD has known about them longer than Tony has been IM

This. I think that was a clear indication that SHIELD is aware of Black Panther and Namor

 

[craigdbfan]

The way I took the whole "Why did Fury want to do this in the first place" question was that A.) Fury and SHIELD have the Tesseract. They've clearly had it for decades, they know it has great destructive power, and they probably know it came from somewhere not on Earth. So there has always been a major hypothetical threat out there since SHIELD was founded.

B.) We also know Banner had been the Hulk for a while before TIH took place, so he was probably on SHIELD's radar already, even before the events of IM. So that's already one potential "superhero" Nick Fury's got his eye on if he could ever get the Hulk under control.

C.) And surely they've always been keeping an eye on Stark considering how big a part Howard played in their organization. So when SHIELD saw that Tony Stark had created a robotic battle-suit in Afghanistan and continued the arc reactor technology his father had started, that's probably when Fury first got the idea for the Avengers, and started his obsession with finding Captain America, who they've probably always known or suspected based on the science of the super-soldier serum that he could very well still be alive if they could ever find him.

The events of Thor just made the threat seem that much more real, and the need for the Avengers that much more urgent.

Great way to explain it and pretty much how I view it.