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[DrDoom]

PEOPLE NEED TO LET GO OF THE IDEA OF SPIDER-MAN OR WOLVERINE BEING IN ANY AVENGERS MOVIE.

IF THEY DID KEEP THE SAME TEAM THEY SHOULD AT LEAST INTRODUCE JANET, JUST TO BALANCE OUT THE GENDERS ON THE TEAM.

-DOOM

 

[BigThor]

How about for Avengers 2 they have a totally new Avengers team with 6 different characters

Roster could be something like

Spider-Man
Ant-Man
Wasp
Black Panther
Wolverine
Scarlet Witch

If don't like that roster just change to something else

The villain would be Ultron created by Pym

Thanos would again be behind the scenes in some way leading upto the mother of all sequels

Avengers 3

The two teams team up to take down Thanos t:

No offense, but hell no to this idea the team should remain the same with maybe one loss and a few additions.

 

[Hawkingbird]

My ideal roster for Avengers 2 would be...

- Cap
- Thor
- Iron Man
- Black Panther
- Hawkeye
- Giant Man
- Wasp

Add Luke Cage (haters gonna hate )Ms .Marvel and Widow to that and that's my perfect team.

 

[Matt Mortem]

How about for Avengers 2 they have a totally new Avengers team with 6 different characters

Roster could be something like

Spider-Man
Ant-Man
Wasp
Black Panther
Wolverine
Scarlet Witch

If don't like that roster just change to something else

The villain would be Ultron created by Pym

Thanos would again be behind the scenes in some way leading upto the mother of all sequels

Avengers 3

The two teams team up to take down Thanos t:

There's is no way Spider-Man and Wolverine will ever be in the MCU, not in the foreseeable future. To suggest them is a little dumb.

 

[Gamma Burst]

How about for Avengers 2 they have a totally new Avengers team with 6 different characters

Roster could be something like

Spider-Man
Ant-Man
Wasp
Black Panther
Wolverine
Scarlet Witch

If don't like that roster just change to something else

The villain would be Ultron created by Pym

Thanos would again be behind the scenes in some way leading upto the mother of all sequels

Avengers 3

The two teams team up to take down Thanos t:

spider-man and wolverine can't be on Avengers.

 

[BigThor]

Star Wars - Build camaraderie
Empire - Test camaraderie (with new player Lando added)
Jedi - Everything comes to a head

I think that's a pretty good model

Yeah you're right, but an Avengers franchise without Hank, Jan, or Black Panther just wouldn't feel right.

 

[flickchick85]

Well Hulk doesn't really HAVE to leave to make room for the Pyms, but as an Avengers fan he and Black Widow are the weak links in terms of history with the team.

Looking back on all of The Avengers history, Hawkeye is just as important as Hank & Jan so I don't want to see him go anywhere.

Considering the fact that the Pyms weren't founding members in this universe, the "history of the team" is already out the window, and that's fine with me. The MCU is its own thing, which draws elements from the comics, but clearly doesn't follow them exactly. And the Hulk is definitely one of those things it shouldn't follow. He is essential to THIS incarnation of the Avengers. And I think their "big picture" is already going in a nice direction without the Pyms and the baggage/connections they bring to the table. I'd also rather see Black Panther and Ms. Marvel brought on over them. I wouldn't even object to the Heroes for Hire being brought on even though they aren't typically Avengers. But Iron Fist and Luke Cage would be great additions to THIS group, imo.

 

[Vulklin]

well shoot the comic book writers then, not me, i am just the messenger

I only choose them because they have been Avengers and they are VERY popular

 

[Matt Mortem]

IMHO Panther is not super necessary to be an Avenger. I would love it if Marvel made a Black Panther movie, but he doesn't need to be an Avenger. If anyone gets added it's got to be the Pyms. I also don't want every MCU film to lead back to The Avengers. Have Dr. Strange be a part of the MCU, but don't make him an Avenger. The Pyms are a sure fire bet to be Avengers, anyone else isn't entirely necessary.

 

[Chewy]

well shoot the comic book writers then, not me, i am just the messenger

I only choose them because they have been Avengers and they are VERY popular

Ant-Man and Wasp really aren't that popular.

 

[Matt Mortem]

well shoot the comic book writers then, not me, i am just the messenger

I only choose them because they have been Avengers and they are VERY popular

True, they are popular and if Marvel owned the rights it wouldn't be out of the question to see them, but as it stands Marvel couldn't legally put Wolverine or Spider-Man into any of their Marvel Studio films.

 

[Hawkingbird]

Pym's a legend! He was in the original Avengers and I think it would be a huge mistake not to have him. Ms.Marvel has been in the line of strong Avengers woman and she's amazing. And to take Hawkeye and Widow out the team for Hulk, who's never been a full time Avenger would be stupid. By all means give him more solo movies though.

 

[Gamma Burst]

well shoot the comic book writers then, not me, i am just the messenger

I only choose them because they have been Avengers and they are VERY popular

That's not what I'm talking about. One of them belongs to Sony and the other to Fox. They can't be on Avengers. Fact.

 

[DrDoom]

That's not what I'm talking about. One of them belongs to Sony and the other to Fox. They can't be on Avengers. Fact.

THIS!

AND THERES NO WAY SONY OR FOX ARE GONNA GIVE UP THOSE LICENSES TO PRINT MONEY

-DOOM

 

[Vulklin]

Why did Marvel sell their heroes anyways? Seems dumb thing to do

They should have just kept ALL of them to themselves

 

[Bren]

Whatever happens, I wouldn't mind a movie that builds up to show an over-reliance on Hulk, and like in A:EMH, when Ultron drains Hulk of his gamma radiation the team suddenly needs to work out how to win without him...

 

[Gamma Burst]

Ant-Man and Wasp really aren't that popular.

Actually, they're not popular at all.

 

[Chewy]

Why did Marvel sell their heroes anyways? Seems dumb thing to do

They should have just kept ALL of them to themselves

Bankruptcy

 

[DrDoom]

Why did Marvel sell their heroes anyways? Seems dumb thing to do

They should have just kept ALL of them to themselves

THEY SOLD OFF THE RIGHTS A LONG TIME AGO WHEN THEY WERE HAVING MONEY TROUBLES AND HAD NO PLANS ON MAKING A MARVEL MOVIE UNIVERSE UNDER ONE STUDIO

-DOOM

 

[BigThor]

Considering the fact that the Pyms weren't founding members in this universe, the "history of the team" is already out the window, and that's fine with me. The MCU is its own thing, which draws elements from the comics, but clearly doesn't follow them exactly. And the Hulk is definitely one of those things it shouldn't follow. He is essential to THIS incarnation of the Avengers. And I think their "big picture" is already going in a nice direction without the Pyms and the baggage/connections they bring to the table. I'd also rather see Black Panther and Ms. Marvel brought on over them. I wouldn't even object to the Heroes for Hire being brought on even though they aren't typically Avengers. But Iron Fist and Luke Cage would be great additions to THIS group, imo.

As usual you make very good points, but an Avengers franchise without Hank, Jan, Ultron, and Vision = in my eyes.

Oh and I didn't mean history as in "being founding members", I meant history as in the years of stories, villains, and allies that all came from the Pyms.

 

[Gamma Burst]

Why did Marvel sell their heroes anyways? Seems dumb thing to do

They should have just kept ALL of them to themselves

Oh my...
When they sold therights of some characters to other studios, more than a decade ago, marvel studios didn't exist as we know it.

 

[Hawkingbird]

And at the time they didn't have Disney's piggy bank to make those movies. By selling them they made a share of the movie's money, and kept the readers happy by providing them movies. It also drew more people into the comics.

 

[itchyscratch]

The critics embargo in Australia lifts tomorrow, so in about 12 hours time you should start to see some more reviews. The UK ones will hopefully come out in the next couple of days too.

The one I can't wait for is Mark Kermode's review for the BBC. I hope it's a memorable podcast.

 

[BigThor]

Whatever happens, I wouldn't mind a movie that builds up to show an over-reliance on Hulk, and like in A:EMH, when Ultron drains Hulk of his gamma radiation the team suddenly needs to work out how to win without him...

Agreed, when Ultron drained Hulk's gamma radiation and Kang knocked Hulk out with one punch I was like "oh man, **** just got real".

I see the Hulk's part the final battle of The Avengers being similar to EMH's Graviton fight, where he shows up and pretty much "saves the day".

 

[Gamma Burst]

Considering the fact that the Pyms weren't founding members in this universe, the "history of the team" is already out the window, and that's fine with me. The MCU is its own thing, which draws elements from the comics, but clearly doesn't follow them exactly. And the Hulk is definitely one of those things it shouldn't follow. He is essential to THIS incarnation of the Avengers. And I think their "big picture" is already going in a nice direction without the Pyms and the baggage/connections they bring to the table. I'd also rather see Black Panther and Ms. Marvel brought on over them. I wouldn't even object to the Heroes for Hire being brought on even though they aren't typically Avengers. But Iron Fist and Luke Cage would be great additions to THIS group, imo.

I couldn't have said it better, flickchick.