Arrow The Barry Allen/The Flash Thread

[Kevin Smith]

I'm sure Nolan approves the armor!

Now ya'll know I wouldn't be caught dead sayin' this in front of Marvel folk.... but **** Chris Nolan!

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[Loki882]

Batman wearing armor makes perfect sense, bullets, bombs, and pointy objects can hurt and kill him (plus the suit looked cool).

 

[Kevin Smith]

It does make sense he would wear it, but it only looked cool in the '89 film, IMO. They need to make it more flexible/less "bulky" (re: PLASTIC) looking.

the batman of the comics' suit was bulletproof and flame ******ent. Don't see why they couldn't have it like that in the film but look the same way.

 

[Paradox1]

It does make sense he would wear it, but it only looked cool in the '89 film, IMO. They need to make it more flexible/less "bulky" (re: PLASTIC) looking.

the batman of the comics' suit was bulletproof and flame ******ent. Don't see why they couldn't have it like that in the film but look the same way.

So what your really saying is you want a straight page to screen adaption.

 

[S. Grundy]

This guy pulled off the Arkham City costume pretty nicely. Though there doesn't look to be much flexibility with the cowl.

 

[Kevin Smith]

So what your really saying is you want a straight page to screen adaption.

As close as they can get, but make it look good and stylistic and believable.

 

[Kevin Smith]

This guy pulled off the Arkham City costume pretty nicely. Though there doesn't look to be much flexibility with the cowl.

I like this suit a lot, but I've always hated the Arkham cowl. The ears are waaaay too long. How the hell does he sit in the batmobile with those on (unless there's no canopy like the old Adam West tv show car)? And then the GIANT gauntlets on his gloves. I hate those. They look like VHS rewinders strapped to his gloves, they don't look very sleek or cool at all. he can be armored there somewhat but that just looks laughable to me (although they're not even nearly as bad in this pic as they are in the game!).

 

[Ultimatehero]

the CW is negotiating with Eric Johnson (Smallville, Flash Gordon) to play Barry Allen

Would be cool but I don't know if thats possible.since he is a lead in the firefighter show.

 

[Loki882]

No, the Nolan armor looked great and its actually something that someone in Batman's position would wear.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Begins suit looked too bulky and TDK&R suits were too busy looking. The cowl looked funny too - more like a guy dressing UP as Batman than Batman - an actual creature, like Batman.

Some middle ground between the two would be nice at least.

 

[vantheman77]

Whatever suit the Flash wears, I hope it resembles the comic version and that it can withstand the highest speeds such as the Speed of Light and the Speed Force.

 

[S. Grundy]

Begins suit looked too bulky and TDK&R suits were too busy looking. The cowl looked funny too - more like a guy dressing UP as Batman than Batman - an actual creature, like Batman.

Some middle ground between the two would be nice at least.

The helmet route was a good idea, though the nose is ridiculously big on that version.

And yeah the TDK suit was way too busy, so much so the Bat symbol gets lost in it.

 

[Silver Lantern]

Heres my concept for a retelling:

The title "The Flash" appears in lighting forming the words then fades to a white circle then onto the opening animation beginning like spiderman opening.

It opens up showing a city with the words in red saying "Central City- Year 2013". A quick pan of the city skyline like LA or something at night. We can hear a storm brewing and clouds in the sky but no lightning just yet. We appear at the same time at a large company called Star Labs where many work at and we see a criminal breaking into it at night. He is suffering from a cold while working with a partner that night who says to him hurry up Captain Cold, not because of his freezing cause he is suffering from a cold and his friend is making a remark to hurry him up. The break into the offices and head to the research lab where there are many things top secret that they steal such as a elier and other devices including a freeze gun. They leave but are cornered by the police but Snart gets away using the gun against them but his friend is killed so they call Dr. Allen to investigate the scene and this is where he meets Tina who talks to him about what they stole. He looks around, fnds clues and uses his CSI eye and sees a holographic scene take place around him he can piece together. Its all in his mind but he can do this with his skills.

It will lead into looking for Snart hiding in a electrical factory where the cops find him again but he is holding others hostage. Allen wants to get in there even after the cops tell him he isnt a cop and he isnt allowed to interfere but he sneaks inside anyway. Inside the building, he is in the dark sneaking through, he is slow and he finally confront Snart and chases him into a power station where a lightning storm appears. Snart is holding the elixer where they get into a fight and the chemicals break and spill onto both of them. In the struggle, Barry is pushed into some wires and a lighting bolt hits the bulding and travels down hitting him electrocuting him with the wires. Snart gets away.

After the hospital, with a brain scan, etc he leaves with his girlfriend Iris back home where he takes a nap where we starts having a nightmare of a lighting creature and a strange speed force of something that makes him wake up in a cold sweat. He cant sleep so he goes to the crime lab late at night and begins working on things when he starts getting a strange feeling. He sees a report on his desk about Tina and calls her on his cell to see her later so when he does she runs tests on him like the original show but more advanced machines at Star labs. The story develops into Snart being effected by the same elixer but his cold effecting him where he feels colder and colder and cannot get warm no matter what he does. His mind effected he blames Allen for this and goes after him at the labs but as now Captain Cold but Allen speeds away unseen. Allen is the target not Flash and this is the main reason becoming the Flash when his family is the target of Cold who cant get Barry.

More to tell but this is a basic opening to the series idea.

 

[Kevin Smith]

The helmet route was a good idea, though the nose is ridiculously big on that version.

I liked the "helmet" route for the front part of the cowl )as it should be "hard", and this even goes in sync with the comics as that part of his face has always been outlined as being black or dark or they always outline it somehow) and I agree on the nose being too big, definitely.

And yeah the TDK suit was way too busy, so much so the Bat symbol gets lost in it.

Yeah, that was ridiculous to me. Also, if they have the batsuit all black, then I at least want the yellow ellipsed symbol on it to help differentiate the bat symbol from the rest of the suit. The black bat on black chest (yet still a yellow belt) is the most absurd and uneven costume design I've ever seen (yet he doesn't spray the belt black).

Silly Nolan.

Anyway, let's hope The Flash's look is as true to the books as possible (draw inspiration from Ethan Van Sciver, Ivan Ries, and Francis Manapul/Brian Buccellato).

 

[Loki882]

Considering how Batman was a ninja using the shadows, having a big yellow target....I mean symbol on his chest would make no sense. Barry's comics costume would work fine however since he isn't just a normal human.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

He had a yellow belt though. Also, contrary to popular belief the ninja did nit wear black, they wore blue (at night) and plenty of other bright colours or regular clothes.

 

[Loki882]

The belt was less noticeable than something on his freaking chest and was a muter shade of yellow. Also, ninja's were trained to blend into their environment. Batman moves around at night in the shadows, so black works. His Bruce Wayne persona is another example of him blending in.

 

[Kevin Smith]

The belt was less noticeable than something on his freaking chest and was a muter shade of yellow.

Why not make the yellow around the ellipse the same muted shade of yellow? Why even put a bat symbol on the chest at all if we can't see it?

And it still stands to reason that if he's going to wear black EVERYTHING and go out of his way to make sure it's that way, there's no way he's not spray painting that belt black too. I have never got that logic, "yellow on chest = bad, yellow on belt = okay". Makes no sense.

Also, ninja's were trained to blend into their environment. Batman moves around at night in the shadows, so black works. His Bruce Wayne persona is another example of him blending in.

Why the yellow belt again? Muted or not?

He could have more armor there and that could be the excuse for the "muted yellow" around the bat symbol. As a design it works better if he is going to wear all black and matches the belt, it looks so much better as a design - and that's what these are at the end of the day, none of them are "realistic", they are ALL "designs" (Nolan's Batman is just as fake as Adam West's, it's just a better "lie"). Besides, if they get his costume/cape right, he will be able to pull his cape over his chest and encompass himself in it and hide not only his belt but also the symbol on his chest when he doesn't want to be seen. Hollywood has yet to figure this out.

 

[Paradox1]

I'm not a fan of the batman cape that also acts as a full length trench coat or a shower curtain. Either way I'm not a fan its a completely impractical look for real life or live action.

 

[Kryptonian Titan]

So, can we please start talking about The Flash again?

 

[NosfeRomas]

Yeah sure.

Making a TV series is a huge mistake, it shows how the folks at WB don't really know what they are doing. I thought that after Man of Steel they finally got the hang of making comicbook movies as a studio but no ! One day they announce a Flash movie is in the works, they get people excited and confident and the next day the switch it into a TV show.

This will not lead to a JLA. Do that to a B lister and i will all over it but to a senior member of the League ? Just make a damn film already !

 

[Kryptonian Titan]

They didn't switch it into a tv show. From what was said, the movie is still in the works. They are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Paradox1]

I think Flash is more suited for TV to be honest with you. His relationship with the rogues I don't think can grow on film like it would on TV. You can see his relationshp with the rogues begin as very adversarial at first and then grow into whats been seen in comics. I think what you loose in big budgeted explosions and special effects you gain 10 fold in character development.

 

[Boy Scout]

Yeah sure.

Making a TV series is a huge mistake, it shows how the folks at WB don't really know what they are doing. I thought that after Man of Steel they finally got the hang of making comicbook movies as a studio but no ! One day they announce a Flash movie is in the works...

They never did that. That was a rumor. The only thing officially announced at Comic Con was the Batman/Superman movie.

 

[Hypestyle]

So will the origin simply be the lightning bolt/chemical bath or will the Speed Force be behind all this?