Arrow The Barry Allen/The Flash Thread

[Shikamaru]

All they know of the Flash is the name and how he looks. That is literally it.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Yeah, they know a guy in red and the name. Not even sure what his powers are, and dammit if they don't attach "Gordon" to the end of his name half the time when I mention him.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Indeed. Peter is not much of a comic book guy though. But he has geeked out over working with other real-life superheroes (real-life to him, not us) such as Captain America.

Yeah, that is true. Although Barry did "geek" a little when he discovered the alternate reality of Earth 2 and that Jay Garrick existed there. ...and when he met Superman in the JLA. Lol.

Flash is a really underrated character IMO. He's got everything that the GA would find appealing - personality, humor, relatability, cool powers, and intelligence (I always saw him as the smartest of the original 7 JL members after Batman). It sucks that all the GA knows of him is his look and his name due to how much WB sucks at doing anything non-Batman.

Right on.

 

[DrRocket]

Yeah, they know a guy in red and the name. Not even sure what his powers are, and dammit if they don't attach "Gordon" to the end of his name half the time when I mention him.

Just read (skimmed) your idea for a flash movie and I gotta say I was impressed, I'd totally watch that movie

 

[smallville fan]

With a tv budget, I don't think they're going to do talking gorillas. Maybe even the movies will avoid them to keep it more grounded and avoid "Planet of the Apes" comparisons and jokes, we'll see.

I figured. But there'll be some disappointed fans frustrated with the approach they've taken as the creators put themselves in a tight corner, but that comes with most of the on-screen DC franchises I guess thanks to the successful approach they've taken with Batman.

With a tv budget, definitely not a chance of Grodd, unless in the movies they could just make two Gorillas, 1 being Grodd and the other being Ultra-Humanite?

 

[DarthDorranceBane]

Wrong thread.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Just read (skimmed) your idea for a flash movie and I gotta say I was impressed, I'd totally watch that movie

Thank you. I'd edit it a bit in retrospect but most of it I'd still leave as is.

 

[godisawesome]

I figured. But there'll be some disappointed fans frustrated with the approach they've taken as the creators put themselves in a tight corner, but that comes with most of the on-screen DC franchises I guess thanks to the successful approach they've taken with Batman.

With a tv budget, definitely not a chance of Grodd, unless in the movies they could just make two Gorillas, 1 being Grodd and the other being Ultra-Humanite?

I'm really not all that I pressed by Grodd compared to the Rogues and Zooms. Capt. Cold in all his alcoholic trailer-trash glory and surprisingly strong common sense would be awesome to see, and while I am much more partial to Zoloman as Zoom, obsessed fanboy gone horribly wrong Thawne would be awesome to see on Netherlands small screen.

 

[smallville fan]

I'm really not all that I pressed by Grodd compared to the Rogues and Zooms. Capt. Cold in all his alcoholic trailer-trash glory and surprisingly strong common sense would be awesome to see, and while I am much more partial to Zoloman as Zoom, obsessed fanboy gone horribly wrong Thawne would be awesome to see on Netherlands small screen.

The Rogues and Professor Zoom are very do-able with this version of the Flash and I have no doubt they'll be done. However we can't ignore some of the non-grounded nature of some of the villains.

lol guys I just thought of a funny way to approach Grodd in the Flash TV-verse. What if they do something like Doomsday on Smallville? Ok so you have this guy Dr. George Roddney(Get it? ) who's a Primatologist who's friends with Barry. Sometime during the season he injects himself with Gorilla DNA and becomes the Grodd we know and tries to take over by turning everyone else into Gorillas and using bananas as weapons against Grodd.

What do you think? t:

 

[Lantern Venom]

What I hate the most is that right now all the GA really know of The Flash is Big Bang Theory. God, I hate that show, if not just got that reason.

You would have to have lived on an island with no media for the last century to not know who the Flash is. He's one of DC's big 5. His face is plastered over every Target store in America right now. He was the focal point of the latest, massively-promoted DVD release. Plus, his main power is easy for GA sheeple to digest.

Also, given DC characters short-lived animated series and underperforming movies in recent years, DC should be overjoyed that there is a show that is putting their name out there in a positive light.

I think many people not into comic books know the Flash from the 90' TV Show.

It may look cheesy now, but that show was unique for it's time period. As short-lived as it was, it had an enthusiastic following.

All they know of the Flash is the name and how he looks. That is literally it.

They might not know Barry Allen or confuse him with Wally, but a guy in cherry red who breaks the sound barrier is pretty memorable.

I figured. But there'll be some disappointed fans frustrated with the approach they've taken as the creators put themselves in a tight corner, but that comes with most of the on-screen DC franchises I guess thanks to the successful approach they've taken with Batman.

With a tv budget, definitely not a chance of Grodd, unless in the movies they could just make two Gorillas, 1 being Grodd and the other being Ultra-Humanite?

A trained Gorilla with some GGI enhancements wouldn't be that expensive. I'm even willing to take a cheesy Grodd, ala Smallville villains, if it gets him on screen. He also has a darker, more intimidating presence than the likes of Cold, Boomerang, Toyman, and Trickster. That might be necessary to give the show some weight.

 

[The Squirrel]

I'd take a guy in a gorilla suit if it meant getting Grodd onto the show.

 

[smallville fan]

A trained Gorilla with some GGI enhancements wouldn't be that expensive. I'm even willing to take a cheesy Grodd, ala Smallville villains, if it gets him on screen. He also has a darker, more intimidating presence than the likes of Cold, Boomerang, Toyman, and Trickster. That might be necessary to give the show some weight.

Not sure still. I think it's matter of how you could introduce and handle a wacky character like Grodd in a grounded setting which is the problem.

 

[Boy Scout]

The Rogues and Professor Zoom are very do-able with this version of the Flash and I have no doubt they'll be done. However we can't ignore some of the non-grounded nature of some of the villains.

lol guys I just thought of a funny way to approach Grodd in the Flash TV-verse. What if they do something like Doomsday on Smallville? Ok so you have this guy Dr. George Roddney(Get it? ) who's a Primatologist who's friends with Barry. Sometime during the season he injects himself with Gorilla DNA and becomes the Grodd we know and tries to take over by turning everyone else into Gorillas and using bananas as weapons against Grodd.

What do you think? t:

Doomsday on SV was terrible, so no, they shouldn't do anything like that.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I'd take a guy in a gorilla suit if it meant getting Grodd onto the show.

Co-signed. I'll take Grodd in any form on this show.

Not sure still. I think it's matter of how you could introduce and handle a wacky character like Grodd in a grounded setting which is the problem.

Grodd is a lot less whacky than most Flash villains. Most of Flash's villains are very-kid centric and would need a lot of changes to appeal to adults. That's not the case with Grodd.

Doomsday on SV was terrible, so no, they shouldn't do anything like that.

Most of the non-core characters on Smallville were horrid, so the show should stay far away from that template.

 

[roach]

Im willing to bet that if this show leaves the Smallville trappings then we'll see Flash's villains as they should be.

 

[Sawyer]

Can we stop with the ****ting on Smallville every ten seconds? Not every situation calls for it.

 

[smallville fan]

Grodd is a lot less whacky than most Flash villains. Most of Flash's villains are very-kid centric and would need a lot of changes to appeal to adults. That's not the case with Grodd.

The Rogues are easy to translate. Just look at how they handled those sorts of villains on Arrow and Smallville and does anyone remember The Cape?

As for Professor Zoom, I think he's very do-able if they're bringing The Flash. Eobard Thawne could have been caught in the same accident as Barry's

Doomsday on SV was terrible, so no, they shouldn't do anything like that.

I know, I was kidding.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Can we stop with the ****ting on Smallville every ten seconds? Not every situation calls for it.

This situation (talking about another DC tv show based on a major DC character) calls for it. Smallville deserves all the criticism it gets. It had some good episodes, but as a whole it failed.

 

[Sawyer]

To you.

 

[Lone]

Flash is a really underrated character IMO. He's got everything that the GA would find appealing - personality, humor, relatability, cool powers, and intelligence (I always saw him as the smartest of the original 7 JL members after Batman). It sucks that all the GA knows of him is his look and his name due to how much WB sucks at doing anything non-Batman.

Agreed. I've always felt that The Flash is the heart of the JL.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I'd take a guy in a gorilla suit if it meant getting Grodd onto the show.

Same. I think he maybe shouldn't be a villain in the first season, but maybe the major villain for the second.

I think the villain of season 1 will be Zoom, he'll be tied to the murder of Barry's mom.

 

[smallville fan]

This situation (talking about another DC tv show based on a major DC character) calls for it. Smallville deserves all the criticism it gets. It had some good episodes, but as a whole it failed.

Smallville hardly failed. There's a reason it lasted 10 years and why there were mass fan campaigns to get Tom Weling to play Superman.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Can we stop with the ****ting on Smallville every ten seconds? Not every situation calls for it.

It's just too much fun.

This situation (talking about another DC tv show based on a major DC character) calls for it. Smallville deserves all the criticism it gets. It had some good episodes, but as a whole it failed.

I recently saw the Black Carnary episode again. She looked like a back up dancer from an 80s music video.

Agreed. I've always felt that The Flash is the heart of the JL.

Most people would say that's Superman. But since I like Flash much more than Supes, up top, Lone.

 

[roach]

Can we stop with the ****ting on Smallville every ten seconds? Not every situation calls for it.

I wasn't ****ting on Smallville. Because Smallville was on CW and this show is on CW people assume that this show will adapt Flash and his world the same way.

 

[Sawyer]

I wasn't ****ting on Smallville. Because Smallville was on CW and this show is on CW people assume that this show will adapt Flash and his world the same way.

Wasn't really directed towards you.