Homecoming The Box Office Thread

[GeckoMoria]

It is.

You haven't even seen the film. You don't even know if it's good. You don't rate a dish 3 Michelin stars before tasting it just because the chef has used unique ingredients.

 

[FunkMiller]

No, it really issn't because the movie doesn't do anything unique or inventive in terms of plot or characters. Does that make it bad? No, but it's not a gamechanger. It's a good film. If we are going by box office then transformers is also a game-change. if you are going by quality, it really isn't.

It's a critical and commercial success that fundamentally shifts the way female protagonists are regarded in comic book movies for the better. It will influence the attitude and output of studios for years to come. Definition of a game changer.

But you obviously have an opinion that I'm not likely to change, so let's drop the issue.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

You haven't even seen the film. You don't even know if it's good. You don't rate a dish 3 Michelin stars before tasting it just because the chef has used unique ingredients.

I don't have to see it to know it's a game changer.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

You haven't even seen the film. You don't even know if it's good. You don't rate a dish 3 Michelin stars before tasting it just because the chef has used unique ingredients.

How much do you think BP is going to make WW?

It's locked to be the biggest movie with a mostly black cast and director.

It easily has more trailer views than any predominantly black movie in history.

It's the first blockbuster to portray Africa in a highly positive light.

It's the first movie adaptation of the first black superhero, Black Panther.

It's already a historical accomplishment.

 

[iEquinox]

Massive $50.5M opening day for #SpiderManHomecoming incl pre-shows heading to wknd in $120M area. Critics/auds both love it. A CinemaScore

https://***********/GiteshPandya/status/883696767413497856

Should do $120M+ now

 

[iEquinox]

Deadline thinks opening day will be even higher:

‘Spider-Man: Homecoming’ Swinging In As Sony’s Second Best Domestic Opening Ever With $125M+

Spider-Man: Homecoming is poised to become the second-highest domestic opening ever for Sony with a three-day that’s between $125-$127M per industry estimates as of this morning. That’s easily the second-best stateside start for the webslinger superhero in his six title canon. Homecoming‘s Friday, including $15.4M from Thursday night shows, is looking at an opening day’s take that’s between $51.2M-$51.5M. We originally saw it between $48M-$49M last night.

http://deadline.com/2017/07/spider-man-homecoming-box-office-opening-1202124834/

Meanwhile boxofficemojo seems to be confused about which number to go with, as they've posted both $50.5M(on the Spider-Man: Homecoming page) and $51.2M(on their weekend report page) for the opening day lol.

 

[Suzanne78]

SPIDER-MAN HOMECOMING needs to make all the money.

 

[iEquinox]

Should pass $300M domestic based on these numbers.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Just like the RT score was never in doubt neither was the box office imo

 

[DieSmiling]

No, it really issn't because the movie doesn't do anything unique or inventive in terms of plot or characters. Does that make it bad? No, but it's not a gamechanger. It's a good film. If we are going by box office then transformers is also a game-change. if you are going by quality, it really isn't.

You don't seem to fundamentally understand why it's a game changer. Your opinion on the quality or originality of the film is completely irrelevant.

A female driven action film is probably going to be the highest grossing box office hit of the summer in North America. More than Guardians, more than Pirates, more than Transformers, Tom Cruise, Spider-Man, Christopher Nolan, etc. If you'd told people that in January they would have laughed at you. This is a property WB has had in their library for decades upon decades and never touched because they didn't think people would see it -- and now it's legitimately a pop culture phenom that has opened the superhero genre to an entirely new audience.

If you don't think this is going to change the types of superhero movies that get green-lit you aren't paying attention.

 

[Iceman]

Looking good!

 

[DieSmiling]

This film will do well, everyone can relax. The box office returns aren't going to Marvel Studios so there's no need to hope for a billion.

Isn't it the exact opposite? I don't care how much money Disney makes. I want this movie to be a huge windfall for Sony so they stick with keeping Spidey in the MCU.

 

[DieSmiling]

Yeah if the next Spider-Man movie is also good/great it is a lock for like 1.5 billion I think.

That seems like a bit of an exaggeration lol.

Yeah if franchise fatigue was really a thing you wouldn't have like 25 bond movies has people would be sick of it and it wouldn't even like be making a profit any more. If it was really a issue you wouldn't have 8 going to be 9 Fast and the feaours movies in a few years. The thing was people didn't want a reboot after Spider-Man 3 they wanted Spider-Man 4 instead and then amazing Spider-Man didn't do any thing to win people over about it being a reboot and then amazing Spider-Man 2 made people like hardly interested in Spider-Man movie any more.

At the end of the day quality is going to win, but I think ignoring franchise fatigue is naive. Let's pretend that the Andrew Garfield films were never made and SMH was the first Spidey flick since 2007. Does anyone really not think that would provide a big boost to the box office?

 

[Iceman]

Isn't it the exact opposite? I don't care how much money Disney makes. I want this movie to be a huge windfall for Sony so they stick with keeping Spidey in the MCU.

Hopefully that's the way it will work. I just don't want them to get too confident with pushing their separate solo spinoff Sony-Spidey-villain-verse. That might limit what villains can be used in Homecoming sequels and damage the reputation of Spidey again by association.

 

[DieSmiling]

Hopefully that's the way it will work. I just don't want them to get too confident with pushing their separate solo spinoff Sony-Spidey-villain-verse. That might limit what villains can be used in Homecoming sequels and damage the reputation of Spidey again by association.

I think the spinoff Spidey-Villain universe is a bizarre terrible idea. They should just work with Marvel Studios to incorporate these films into the larger MCU, IMO. Seems obvious.

Does anyone give a crap about Black Cat in a universe where Spider-Man doesn't exist?

 

[StormC]

I feel like the Venom movie will quietly underperform then Sony will just stop and let Marvel do their thing. Or at least I hope so.

 

[legendkillin]

Hopefully that's the way it will work. I just don't want them to get too confident with pushing their separate solo spinoff Sony-Spidey-villain-verse. That might limit what villains can be used in Homecoming sequels and damage the reputation of Spidey again by association.

The key is the GA needs to know the movies are not connected. Venom or even that Black Cat having BO success is probably due to people thinking this Spider-Man will appear. We need that first solo spin off to fail and then come back even harder for HC2.

 

[Iceman]

I think the spinoff Spidey-Villain universe is a bizarre terrible idea. They should just work with Marvel Studios to incorporate these films into the larger MCU, IMO. Seems obvious.

Does anyone give a crap about Black Cat in a universe where Spider-Man doesn't exist?

That's what it seems nearly everyone agrees on. I just want the best outcome that would discourage that scenario and I don't know if Sony would get confidence from Homecoming succeeding massively.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Once more Spider-man will be the highest grossing superhero of the year, and we shall have peace... well no but hey my boy is back home and on his way to the top once again. Can't wait for the spidey centric Phase 4 now. Good looking out Fiege. Now off to see it for the first time, so pumped.

 

[spiderman2]

That seems like a bit of an exaggeration lol.




At the end of the day quality is going to win, but I think ignoring franchise fatigue is naive. Let's pretend that the Andrew Garfield films were never made and SMH was the first Spidey flick since 2007. Does anyone really not think that would provide a big boost to the box office?

I don't think it is Spider-Man is so big. Spider-Man 1-3 all would be like right around a billion with just 3d. That dosnt even include the fact that tickets cost like what $3-4 more then they did back then and a way bigger internation market then it had back then.

 

[DieSmiling]

I don't think it is Spider-Man is so big. Spider-Man 1-3 all would be like right around a billion with just 3d. That dosnt even include the fact that tickets cost like what $3-4 more then they did back then and a way bigger internation market then it had back then.

You realize no solo superhero movie ever has grossed 1.5 billion right? With all due respect I don't think a Homecoming sequel would even sniff 1.5b.

 

[StormC]

An 850M-900M run for Homecoming would probably pave the way for a movie that's just over the hill for a billion (~1.1B), especially after Avengers 3/4. Both it and GOTG3 have good chances at being the first billion dollar Marvel movies without RDJ.

 

[Iceman]

The key is the GA needs to know the movies are not connected. Venom or even that Black Cat having BO success is probably due to people thinking this Spider-Man will appear. We need that first solo spin off to fail and then come back even harder for HC2.

Yes hopefully it works out like this. Spidey's future at stake.

 

[Raiden]

You don't seem to fundamentally understand why it's a game changer. Your opinion on the quality or originality of the film is completely irrelevant.

A female driven action film is probably going to be the highest grossing box office hit of the summer in North America. More than Guardians, more than Pirates, more than Transformers, Tom Cruise, Spider-Man, Christopher Nolan, etc.

More than Spider-Man? How can you be so certain? Homecoming is probably going to have a bigger OW than WW and slightly higher RT score as well, with a character that can match WW in terms of pop culture awareness and has better merchandising sales. I think the crown for this summer's biggest box office champion has not been decided yet.

 

[GeckoMoria]

You don't seem to fundamentally understand why it's a game changer. Your opinion on the quality or originality of the film is completely irrelevant.

A female driven action film is probably going to be the highest grossing box office hit of the summer in North America. More than Guardians, more than Pirates, more than Transformers, Tom Cruise, Spider-Man, Christopher Nolan, etc. If you'd told people that in January they would have laughed at you. This is a property WB has had in their library for decades upon decades and never touched because they didn't think people would see it -- and now it's legitimately a pop culture phenom that has opened the superhero genre to an entirely new audience.

If you don't think this is going to change the types of superhero movies that get green-lit you aren't paying attention.

I fully grasp what a game-changer is. A film with d-listers, obscure characters that not even hardcore Marvel fans knew much about making almost 400 domestically, outgrossing movies who have X-men, Batman, Supermna and Wonder Woman in them. Rings any bells?