BvS The BvS Rumor/Speculation Discussion Thread! - Part 2

[Superchan]

So you guys don't want to see superman's rogues used in a movie called Batman v SUPERMAN but you wouldn't mind them being used in justice league?
BvS is a superman movie (not a solo one but a superman movie non the less) and so I'd like to see superman villains used in it just as much as I'd like to see them used in a solo superman film.
Using Superman's rogues for JL is a waste IMO because the league has plenty of rogues that can be used.

Although at the end of the day the story comes first so if a particular villain fits the story that they're going for then said villain should be used.

We know that superman is getting another solo film sometime between 2016 and 2020 so I'd like to see either Brainiac, Manchester Black or Parasite used.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Yeah I don't understand why you wouldn't want to see another Superman villain in this movie. I get the concerns about the movie possibly being too crowded, but Batman Begins, TDK, TDKR, Captain America: TWS and other films have all had large casts and multiple villains and they worked.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I don't have an issue with a superman rogue being used here. Metallo seems like a natural fit, although a lot of people seem to think some kind of bizzaro or doomsday lab experiment will be it. I do like the idea of amazo though.
for another superman solo i could easily see some of his rogues paired up with others especially the likes of metallo, parasite, manchester etc. Although a movie based on the elite would be nice.

 

[Fallen Angel]

So you guys don't want to see superman's rogues used in a movie called Batman v SUPERMAN but you wouldn't mind them being used in justice league?
BvS is a superman movie (not a solo one but a superman movie non the less) and so I'd like to see superman villains used in it just as much as I'd like to see them used in a solo superman film.
Using Superman's rogues for JL is a waste IMO because the league has plenty of rogues that can be used.

Although at the end of the day the story comes first so if a particular villain fits the story that they're going for then said villain should be used.

We know that superman is getting another solo film sometime between 2016 and 2020 so I'd like to see either Brainiac, Manchester Black or Parasite used.

It's obvious we're getting some kind of Superman villain and unless Lex Luthor has somehow become a Batman villain he count's as well. Some folk's on here are just whacky.

The guy's you're responding to know there's going to be superman villain(s), why are you worried?

 

[Rowsdower!]

Yeah, Amazo could be cool. If the rumor about Lex and the government capturing superheroes is true, perhaps that's what they are building... an android that has ALL of their abilities. Maybe that's why they took Zod's body; to duplicate Superman's powers.

I could see that really working and it wouldn't need a lot of additional explanation and screentime whereas a villain like Brainiac might. Maybe that's who Mulvey is playing.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Part four:

How would Batman know of any connection between superman, Lois, and Martha?

 

[GreenKToo]

Yeah, Amazo could be cool. If the rumor about Lex and the government capturing superheroes is true, perhaps that's what they are building... an android that has ALL of their abilities. Maybe that's why they took Zod's body; to duplicate Superman's powers.

I could see that really working and it wouldn't need a lot of additional explanation and screentime whereas a villain like Brainiac might. Maybe that's who Mulvey is playing.

Thats an interesting thought. I like it.

 

[Rapunzel]

Yeah, Amazo could be cool. If the rumor about Lex and the government capturing superheroes is true, perhaps that's what they are building... an android that has ALL of their abilities. Maybe that's why they took Zod's body; to duplicate Superman's powers.

I could see that really working and it wouldn't need a lot of additional explanation and screentime whereas a villain like Brainiac might. Maybe that's who Mulvey is playing.

You know, this is my new fav theory. It could also allow Cyborg to already exist and be one of the captured. Plus the metas from SS could be mentioned. Points for connections.

Also, this really gives a strong reason for the JL being created. If people are out to abuse their powers, it would make great sense they'd ban together.

 

[Superchan]

It's obvious we're getting some kind of Superman villain and unless Lex Luthor has somehow become a Batman villain he count's as well. Some folk's on here are just whacky.

The guy's you're responding to know there's going to be superman villain(s), why are you worried?

I'm not worried dude, I just found it funny that some people don't want to see superman rogues "wasted" on a superman movie yet they don't mind seeing them in JL, just doesn't make any sense to me.

As for lex, well we all know that Lex is an enemy of all humanity not just superman! After all he stole 40 cakes for god's sake, how evil can a guy be!

 

[LaserBees]

You know, this is my new fav theory. It could also allow Cyborg to already exist and be one of the captured. Plus the metas from SS could be mentioned. Points for connections.

Also, this really gives a strong reason for the JL being created. If people are out to abuse their powers, it would make great sense they'd ban together.

Yeah but Amazo is way too much like Ultron.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Not really. Besides the fact that he's a robot, built by a man. Just because avengers used a robot for a villain doesnt mean any other movie should use evil robots. And he's enough of a one off type villain that really needs no extensive background or even a big personality.

 

[Rapunzel]

Yeah but Amazo is way too much like Ultron.

Ultron is more Brainiac than Amazo. Amazo doesn't really have an equivalent. He's not controlling robots like Ultron; he's just got everyone's powers. It's way diff, imo.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Brainiac and Ultron are more analogous. For Amazo it's The Super Adaptoid.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I can't wait to see how they handle a live action braniac, as long as he doesn't fall into the trap that ultron fell into as far as the action goes.

 

[Rowsdower!]

You know, this is my new fav theory. It could also allow Cyborg to already exist and be one of the captured. Plus the metas from SS could be mentioned. Points for connections.

Also, this really gives a strong reason for the JL being created. If people are out to abuse their powers, it would make great sense they'd ban together.

Thanks. Yeah that was my thought. There needs to be something to bring them all together and this could be it.

 

[LaserBees]

Ultron is more Brainiac than Amazo. Amazo doesn't really have an equivalent. He's not controlling robots like Ultron; he's just got everyone's powers. It's way diff, imo.

A robot that fights a superhero team, with a name that sounds pretty silly. Amazo and Ultron are just too similar. Whereas Brainiac is an alien invading the earth in his spaceship, too many similarities with Zod to appear so soon after him. I think the best villain for BvS is Lex and Metallo, and then Darkseid for Justice League parts 1 and 2.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Is that the best you could come up with between their similarities?

i wouldn't care if he's never referred to as Amazo in the movie. As far as ultron goes he barely fought the avengers himself, most the fighting that was done was between his army and the team. Huge difference compared to amazo which is a single threat strong enough to warrant the attention of the trinity.

 

[LaserBees]

I think that's enough similarities for the general audience to criticize it. And for me to want something different.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I don't the GA would think twice about it. People didn't complain about ultrons army compared to xmens sentinels, why they complain here?

 

[lanesrader]

I don't see that much similarities between Ultron and Amazo, other than the fact that they're both robots. They don't even look similar, and their motivations are different. Ultron wants to "save" humanity by destroying all humanity. Amazo is programmed specifically to take down heroes. Ultron also commands an army of robots, something I don't think Amazo has the capability to do, and he's really just the muscle to the brain (In BvS, it would be Lex).

 

[Last Of Krypton]

I've said it before:

Amazo is probably one of the most powerful and underrated DC villains. His abilities to absorb and mimic his opponents powers make him an extremely dangerous foe for any super-powered being. The DCAU Amazo was well done and had something of a tragic Frankestein. In addition, he is one of the few that managed to defeat the Justice League on his own.....TWICE.

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[Aejej]

A single enemy powerful enough to take on three heroes? After four movies of heroes fighting a drone army, those being Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3 and both episodes of Avengers, that sounds...refreshing!!

Even better, don't let him utter a word. That way, audiences won't be besieged by "great" one-liners like "On this rock, I will build my church"!

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Ultron is more Brainiac than Amazo. Amazo doesn't really have an equivalent. He's not controlling robots like Ultron; he's just got everyone's powers. It's way diff, imo.

agreed.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I can't wait to see how they handle a live action braniac, as long as he doesn't fall into the trap that ultron fell into as far as the action goes.

What trap was that?

 

[Gamma Goliath]

What trap was that?

Ultron prime turned out to be physically underwhelming in the final fight. He had a new body and and his army but he wasn't really all that much of a threat himself. I'd want braniac to be a physical challenge for superman moreso than ultron was for the avengers.