BvS The BvS Rumor/Speculation Discussion Thread! - Part 2

[Da-Scribe]

He's already the Superman I know and love.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Cavill owns as

Yes...yes he does!!! I hope he plays Superman for many years and movies to come!!! Well into his 40s

It's crazy how comic accurate Cavill's facial structure is. I mean his lower half of the face looks like Batman from Arkham Knight in that pic. That masculine jawline is straight up comic book material. I bet the rumored Superman game from Rocksteady/WBM might feature a Supes that resembles Cavill.

On another note, anyone else thinks that He'll keep his S curl by movies end? Kinda symbollic in that he finally grew into the Superman that we know and love, and bring forth a more positive outlook than the grimness he exude in MoS and, from what it looks like in the trailers, the earlier parts of this movie? I would be totally down with an S curl Supes in JL.

I hope it is in fact a Superman game and I hope that if it is, that Superman is modeled after Cavill. I love him as Superman!!! And I was telling a buddy of mine yesterday that it would be cool of Superman decides to keep the curl because he likes how it looks or something along those lines.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

And this is why I never understood the people up in arms about the destruction of Metropolis in MoS (killing Zod, maybe, but not the destruction). Firstly, he was Superman for like a day or two, secondly most of that was caused by Zod trying to transform the city into Krypton and a lot of the buildings were evacuated. Lastly, this Superman is particular is sufficiently powerful. Like, he doesn't only look strong, because of the advancement of technology, those fights were epic. As they should be.

Some people just want to complain...I loved Man of Steel. This movie looks like it's going to be epic on a new scale of epicness!

 

[Aejej]

And this is why I never understood the people up in arms about the destruction of Metropolis in MoS (killing Zod, maybe, but not the destruction). Firstly, he was Superman for like a day or two, secondly most of that was caused by Zod trying to transform the city into Krypton and a lot of the buildings were evacuated. Lastly, this Superman is particular is sufficiently powerful. Like, he doesn't only look strong, because of the advancement of technology, those fights were epic. As they should be.

The overall destruction, it's like people didn't even watch the movie. I can't understand why people were complaining about too much destruction. Really? Ever read these guys? Watch their animated stuff? Ever thought for half a second what two kryptonians would do? My goodness I hate people sometimes.

It's that the movie's battles correctly conveyed the destruction and trauma a city would face, and it did it without all the one-liners. It's a darker film than Avengers. Respectively, Zod, Faora and Nam-ek wrecked more of the landscape than the inexplicably inept Chitauri invasion force in Avengers, even with their ginormous biomechanical worms. There was no mugging for the camera, no deliberate one-liners and no sign of an easy out. It was literally a "fight to the finish."

Man of Steel is the kind of Superman movie we needed, but people are too hung up on the nostalgia of previous Superman films (minus Singer's lame attempt) to fully invest in Cav-el. That may be about to change with BvS, though. The DCEU Batman and Wonder Woman are going to make waves. No cartoon-lipped, wisecracking robots required.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

I really doubt the Jimmy "no legs" rumor myself.

 

[EEK]

Hammer = Hal Jordan

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Based on? ...

 

[Superchan]

Crazed eyes of a killer.

Correct, that's why Sean Penn should've been superman dammit!

Btw the knives that Hardy and Faora carried where REAL knives! That's what made the movie good, the authenticity!!!!t:

Did someone mention a superman videogame with Cavill's likness?

Lastly regarding the metropolis destruction I will say this; I was in Baghdad during the first gulf war and the destruction we saw in MOS is 'exactly' what would happen when a superior force (Zod or America in my case) attacks your home.
With that being said I still hated the film's last act because:

1. The action went on for almost 27 minutes straight! Now I love action as much as the next guy that was an insult on the senses IMO. I would've atleast taken out the superman/blackzero fight, which was pointless IMO.

2. They could've taken a minute extra (had that canceled the fight mentioned above) and showed superman attempting to take the fight out of the city like he did in the smallville fight. The reason I say this is because in the shooting script they had superman throw Zod into the river in an attempt to reduce the destruction so I wish they would've inserted that sequence into the film because it would've made a big difference (for me atleast).

3. Finally the after fight scenes where poorly chosen, instead of seeing superman dump the drone on Swanwick and leave the conversation with that silly ferris joke they should've shown the scene directly afterwards with clark and martha talking in the graveyard, which was longer in the script and they actually discussed the destruction and zod's death.

Alot of this is due to Snyder's weaknesses in story telling rather than just Goyer's poor writing, which he is often guilty of! Hopefully the presence of Affleck and Terrio could patch up any story missteps that Synder may have.

 

[bluearth]

Lastly regarding the metropolis destruction I will say this; I was in Baghdad during the first gulf war and the destruction we saw in MOS is 'exactly' what would happen when a superior force (Zod or America in my case) attacks your home.
With that being said I still hated the film's last act because:

1. The action went on for almost 27 minutes straight! Now I love action as much as the next guy that was an insult on the senses IMO. I would've atleast taken out the superman/blackzero fight, which was pointless IMO.

2. They could've taken a minute extra (had that canceled the fight mentioned above) and showed superman attempting to take the fight out of the city like he did in the smallville fight. The reason I say this is because in the shooting script they had superman throw Zod into the river in an attempt to reduce the destruction so I wish they would've inserted that sequence into the film because it would've made a big difference (for me atleast).

3. Finally the after fight scenes where poorly chosen, instead of seeing superman dump the drone on Swanwick and leave the conversation with that silly ferris joke they should've shown the scene directly afterwards with clark and martha talking in the graveyard, which was longer in the script and they actually discussed the destruction and zod's death.

Alot of this is due to Snyder's weaknesses in story telling rather than just Goyer's poor writing, which he is often guilty of! Hopefully the presence of Affleck and Terrio could patch up any story missteps that Synder may have.

That really doesnt sound like good enough reasons to 'hate' the final 30 minutes. Yes it was too long and too action heavy, but Im surprised by the amount of people who 'hated' it to the point they say it ruined the entire film for them.

Also where did you get the script? I've been looking for it since the movie came out.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

We have a rumor, and it's just that, a rumor, that Scoot is an assistant or the like for Bruce Wayne. We also think that Scoot can be seen in the Senate hearing. So he has SFX enhanced legs and he's at the hearing possibly.

Could Scoot be, not Olsen, but someone that is a connection from Wayne to Luthor? Someone that Luthor can use to manipulate Wayne?

 

[Superchan]

That really doesnt sound like good enough reasons to 'hate' the final 30 minutes. Yes it was too long and too action heavy, but Im surprised by the amount of people who 'hated' it to the point they say it ruined the entire film for them.

Well, different strokes and all but it's how I felt and how I still feel. The whole 3rd act was a mess without an ounce of ingenuity or thought but that's not the reason why I disliked the film.
To me the film failed to make the character of kal/clark endearing or interesting and that was done by making him an outsider/aimless drifter with very little dialogue and that's the ultimate sin of any movie, which is to ignore it's titular character.
Anyways we've all talked about this movie to death so it's neither here nor there so lets hope BvS is better.

Also where did you get the script? I've been looking for it since the movie came out.

It was sent to me actually; it's not online as far as I know. The good news is that I read the MOS novelization and it's almost word for word, so if you can read the novel then you've pretty much read the script, which was better than the actual movie IMO.

Could Scoot be, not Olsen, but someone that is a connection from Wayne to Luthor? Someone that Luthor can use to manipulate Wayne?

Scoot is a solid actor, so what ever role he's playing I hope it has some meat to it.

 

[Verick808]

The world engine fight was a waste of screen time but not enough to bring the movie down all that much. It isn't like thirty minutes of action is outside the usual in a blockbuster. I remember the theatre I was in played the film so bloody loud that the world engine gave me a headache. Two separate theaters, actually. That definitely affected my enjoyment of the later action scenes

 

[Jake Cassidy]

There was too much action. It went on too long. It was too loud. Boo ****ing hoo you ****ing cry-babies. Harden the **** up. t:

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

From the look of that Batjet swooping over a large area on fire, I don't suspect this film to be any less bereft of action than MOS... AND I LOVE THAT.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

From the look of that Batjet swooping over a large area on fire, I don't suspect this film to be any less bereft of action than MOS... AND I LOVE THAT.

**** yeah!!!!!!

 

[Angel0fDeath]

Really ? A superhero movie and people complain about having action ? What exactly is it that you want to see these superpowered humans and aliens do ?

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Group counselling. They can sit around and talk out their problems with each other. It would be far more exciting. As we all know movies aren't a part of the "entertainment" industry. They're a part of the "bore people to ****ing tears" industry.

 

[TripleJ]

From the look of that Batjet swooping over a large area on fire, I don't suspect this film to be any less bereft of action than MOS... AND I LOVE THAT.

Considering that this is the DC Universe, we are only going to get more destruction - as the villains and heroes are a lot more powerful!

 

[Superchan]

I'm glad you guys enjoyed the action in MOS and I personally LOVED the smallville fight but the last 27 min or so were mind numbing to me and yes there is something called TOO MUCH ACTION, watch any of the transformers movies for an example.

 

[Gu3ree]

Is no one worried that Superman might become the bad guy in the movie? It looks like that from the trailers. It's an excuse to make Batman better and be the ultimate hero by stopping him.

 

[Last Of Krypton]

Is no one worried that Superman might become the bad guy in the movie? It looks like that from the trailers. It's an excuse to make Batman better and be the ultimate hero by stopping him.

You try too hard.......

 

[Doc Samson]

From the look of that Batjet swooping over a large area on fire, I don't suspect this film to be any less bereft of action than MOS... AND I LOVE THAT.

Me too, while others may have been upset about all the action at the end of MoS, it was jarring to me in a whole different way. Because I didn't expect it to go to that extent and its always what I wanted to see personally, Superman in battle looking powerful and not holding back. This Batman, from the small sample size, looks like he doesn't play too many games either...

Is no one worried that Superman might become the bad guy in the movie? It looks like that from the trailers. It's an excuse to make Batman better and be the ultimate hero by stopping him.

Looks to be the other way around to me, which I believe Snyder all but confirmed.

 

[dhandler01]

Group counselling. They can sit around and talk out their problems with each other. It would be far more exciting. As we all know movies aren't a part of the "entertainment" industry. They're a part of the "bore people to ****ing tears" industry.

And eat shwarma of course

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I'm glad you guys enjoyed the action in MOS and I personally LOVED the smallville fight but the last 27 min or so were mind numbing to me and yes there is something called TOO MUCH ACTION, watch any of the transformers movies for an example.

Stokes and folks as you said. I haven't liked any of the TF films, but MAN OF STEEL was right up my alley as a fan of Supes since 1979.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

Well, different strokes and all but it's how I felt and how I still feel. The whole 3rd act was a mess without an ounce of ingenuity or thought but that's not the reason why I disliked the film.
To me the film failed to make the character of kal/clark endearing or interesting and that was done by making him an outsider/aimless drifter with very little dialogue and that's the ultimate sin of any movie, which is to ignore it's titular character.
Anyways we've all talked about this movie to death so it's neither here nor there so lets hope BvS is better.



It was sent to me actually; it's not online as far as I know. The good news is that I read the MOS novelization and it's almost word for word, so if you can read the novel then you've pretty much read the script, which was better than the actual movie

So, you disliked the film, yet you read the script and the novelization.