BvS The BvS Rumor/Speculation Discussion Thread! - Part 4

[Herolee10]

You now it kills me to say this but...Fart Cheese has I think.
(Faraci)

I'm not familiar with the dude's history like I am with El Maybe's. Does the dude have some history of being right?

 

[Willi Berg]

What better way to ruin Batman and his unbreakable will power than to let Darkseid manipulate him over the course of multiple films.

Well, Lex manipulates him in BvS. All the heroes will have to succumb to some vulnerabilities and have their particular weaknesses be tested. Not that they give in to all of them.

 

[Willi Berg]

I'm not familiar with the dude's history like I am with El Maybe's. Does the dude have some history of being right?

Faraci claims to have read the script. Or an early version of it, at least.

 

[matt47]

I'm not familiar with the dude's history like I am with El Maybe's. Does the dude have some history of being right?

I don't know about his past movie "scoops" but with BvS he said that he got an early draft of the script and put out bits of info and I think all of it does seem like things we have seen, or at least an early draft of it.
I'll try to find some

 

[matt47]

Mar. 25, 2015
In Batman v Superman Superman is no lackey of the government; if anything many of the world's governments distrust the guy. But it is Superman who goes to Gotham and starts the confrontation... at the behest of Lex Luthor. And unlike The Dark Knight Returns, Superman comes out swinging, pulverizing the Batmobile with one punch. Why would Superman do Lex Luthor's bidding? What is Lex hoping to accomplish? That would be spoiling. But know that when the fight is over, Batman will be able to point to Superman and say, "He started it!"

Dec. 15, 2014
Batman v Superman opens with Batman's origin and fast forwards to Bruce Wayne coming to Metropolis during the Superman/Zod fight, but that's just setting the stage for that character. From there the script turns its attention to Superman heavily, and it examines the implications of Superman in the real world. The main action takes place a couple of years after the end of Man of Steel, and Superman has been busy in the meantime, becoming the hero we know and love. Clark Kent and Lois Lane have moved their relationship forward to the point where they live together. Clark is still working at the Daily Planet, although it's unclear if he's loving his assignments - he's tasked with covering a Metropolis/Gotham football game when he would rather be writing about Batman.

Very early in the film Lois is in the Middle East following a story when Superman shows up to help her out. This becomes something of an international incident as other nations view Superman as a tool of the United States. China, for instance, doesn't want him in their air space. It's an interesting look at how a being like Superman would be viewed on a global scale.

This is some of what he has said.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Not sure if any of that is particularly confirmed or not with this last trailer.

 

[matt47]

Not sure if any of that is particularly confirmed or not with this last trailer.

I'm not saying it's confirmed but some things do line up with what we've seen/heard.

 

[Herolee10]

Interesting, thanks for the heads up on that guys.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I'm not saying it's confirmed but some things do line up with what we've seen/heard.

Oh I'm not saying you are just reacting to Devin's claims/info there. I am not his biggest fan but I don't think he's lying or something about reading a script. Is it THE script? Eh... There is lots that you could put in that would be a good guess for a fake script. One thing though... I am remembering a detail that was way off in some report about the "script" and am wondering if it's the same material Devin has. Wasn't Hunter's character's name totally different ? Didn't a "script" have her as Veronica Cale or some other name? Again, not saying that is the script he has just that I remember that big important detail being wrong in some script that was floating around.

 

[matt47]

Oh I'm not saying you are just reacting to Devin's claims/info there. I am not his biggest fan but I don't think he's lying or something about reading a script. Is it THE script? Eh... There is lots that you could put in that would be a good guess for a fake script. One thing though... I am remembering a detail that was way off in some report about the "script" and am wondering if it's the same material Devin has. Wasn't Hunter's character's name totally different ? Didn't a "script" have her as Veronica Cale or some other name? Again, not saying that is the script he has just that I remember that big important detail being wrong in some script that was floating around.

I think in one of those articles he said that he got two scripts and that one of them was BS.

 

[Angel0fDeath]

Scoopers will get one or two things right every now and then. So do we, though, and we don't go around telling people we've read the script. I don't believe people who have absolutely nothing to do with the production of the film have a script.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Lois and Clark as a couple living together, political fallout for Superman, even Superman "starting" the fight (though from what we have seen they seem to be highlighting Batman as having an axe to grind) are good plausible guesses that are vague enough to be true in some way right now as a guess... Everything else is very specific and I don't know If Devin will have egg on his face come the premiere.

 

[matt47]

On Superman "starting" the fight...I think that might be the case to an extent. I think these scenes are together and that Batman is just doing his rounds, maybe in the middle of a pursuit and Superman does that "One punch" to the Batmobile that causes it to crash into Gotham Gas.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Good eye. Backgrounds and coloring seems to fit.

 

[matt47]

Just found this old video of what I think is that scene. If you go to 11:20 see he is chasing some thugs...very interesting..
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[DChero]

If Superman does start this, it kind of lines up with the "Bat Branding" portion of the trailer. A lot of us already believe that to be a setup. That could potentially lead Supes to Gotham. Could Luthor be behind it?

 

[STARMAN]

There was that unconfirmed rumor of Martha being kidnapped. Maybe that triggers Superman to seek out Batman in some way.

 

[rogbngp]

There was that unconfirmed rumor of Martha being kidnapped. Maybe that triggers Superman to seek out Batman in some way.

It looks like Lex seems to have Lois held captive, so maybe that will be enough along those lines. In any event, for Superman to cave in to any demand of Lex's because a single person is held hostage, be it his mother or girlfriend, would really disappoint me to see.

 

[DChero]

That poor woman. Her husband dies in a tornado, she gets thrown to the ground by Zod, her house gets destroyed and now she's been kidnapped?!

 

[STARMAN]

Well, it was just a rumor. Possibly another bogus one.

 

[DChero]

Thinking back, wasn't it Feraci that broke the Doomsday story?

 

[Mainline]

In any event, for Superman to cave in to any demand of Lex's because a single person is held hostage, be it his mother or girlfriend, would really disappoint me to see.

Supes is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. He doesn't risk blowing his secret at the expense of his father for the sake of everyone else... and gets condemned. He does risk everyone else for the sake of Lois... and gets condemned. It's a miller and son situation with no right answer except a happy ending in the mind of some. I care less what decision he makes and more about why he makes the decision.

 

[shauner111]

That poor woman. Her husband dies in a tornado, she gets thrown to the ground by Zod, her house gets destroyed and now she's been kidnapped?!

Well she did decide to raise an alien and hide him from the government. Of course there would be consequences.

 

[DChero]

Well she did decide to raise an alien and hide him from the government. Of course there would be consequences.

I bet she blames it on Jonathan. Women...

 

[Captain Shazam]

Wilkinson said the story takes place 8 months after the events in MoS. Devil Faraci says it takes place a couple of years after that. Whom am I to believe?

Spoiler

It's an irony of course!