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Discussion in 'Captain Marvel' started by flickchick85, Mar 5, 2019.
Disagree. Love theater popcorn
I don't get why people eat while watching a movie, especially if it's the first time they watch it. It's distracting for both yourself and the people around you.
Agreed, if we had gotten a linear origin story like normal, I would have been bored to tears.
5 days after watching CM and been thinking about this film, i finally figure out what makes me kinda dissatisfied about this movie.
My dissatisfaction begun at the very end of this film until the first end-credit scene.
My main issue is:
The significance of capt marvel doesnt come from what she do in the movie, but from nick fury's perspective.
It's like fury character try to tell me how important capt marvel is but i myself didnt convinced by anything she did in movie, but i'm supposed to accept that cos i like fury character.
Its like in the end credit scene, capt america and black widow both never seen capt marvel, never know what she can do, what she stands for but they both eagerly searching and waiting for her because nick fury trust her and callled her.
Just like that, because nick fury thinks she is important so every member of avengers must think alike cos they trust fury.
That's left a bad taste in me cos it was the opposite of the movement behind the movie, which is strong female character.
What kind of a strong female character if they need a nick fury to sell how strong and important she is.
I get it if this film was like dr strange or ant man which serves only as introduction and they will slowly be introduced to the rest of superheroes.
But this movie we supposed to quickly root for her, quickly appreciate her and accept her as a HERO, so it took nick fury character to show us all that.
It also took the marketing narrative: most powerful in mcu, so i can quickly believe and accept what they want me to think about capt marvel.
Sorry guys i have to express that, it's been bothering me for some time.
I thought the movie was a B, B+ because I thought the 3rd act was pretty darn good.
It's about as good as Dr. Strange/Ant-Man. I thought Brie Larson did a good job with what she had. Sometimes Marvel movies require a sequel or guest star for the actor to really get a thrive in the role.
I guess I see where you're coming from, Fury did help to sell it, but I think they also did enough to show it too, people were cheering in my theater right after the quick montage of her throughout her life "getting up and dusting herself off"... so Fury just helped connect it back and make her feel more vital to the larger universe.
I almost wonder how it would've been if Fury had done some brief narration. Him telling the tale of the first hero he met, make her feel even more mythical
I think no one had an issue with Gordon essentially doing the same thing at the end of "The Dark Knight", so I'm not sure why it's an issue now.
saw it on sat, was ok nothing special. 7/10, Goose was overrated , Sam Jackson made the movie
Watched CM last night
It was alright, had some enjoyable moments but it felt like a typical Phase 1 MCU movie. I think if CM was release during Phase 1 I would have enjoyed it much more.
The supporting characters carried the movie. Fury, Talos, & Yon-Rogg all had memorable moments. Brie Larson was very hit or miss. She was great in some parts but others where I thought she fell flat. With that said though, I am interested to see how she does under the direction of the Russo's.
I give this movie about a 6.5-7/10
Well, I just got back with the family. Daughter loved it, son thought it was cool, wife and I both agree that it was just OK.
My thing is the movie tried too hard to fit into the current MCU and it’s “goings ons”. Didn’t Fury tell Robert Redford’s character in TWS he lost his eye saving that dude’s daughter in an embassy rescue?
Brie Larson is the new Charlie Hunnam to me. She just doesn’t have the onscreen charisma.
In any case, it was a tough gig to shoehorn this type of movie into the current MCU so late into the game. So many big movies, well written, well directed, and well known by a global fan base it would have to live up to.
It was decent. 6/10
I don’t think so - I remember him saying: “last time I trusted someone, I lost an eye”.
Correct, that is all Fury ever said about the subject.
I was one of those cheering.
The Skrulls have beautiful eyes.
So finally went and seen the movie last night here's my review
Ok so right off the bat im not going to lie or try and skew expectations this was one of my less favourite Marvel movies. That's not to say I hated it because I didn't but by the end I didn't really feel a connection to Brie Larson as Captain Marvel.
Saying that however it did have a lot of stuff I really did like
Jackson stole pretty much every scene he's in (the diagonal toast bit nearly had me in tears)
The Skrull being terrified of the cat
Goose unleashing his alien side
The opening Starforce mission was visually amazing
The Stan Lee opening
The inclusion of the Tesseract (didn't see that coming and was a nice surprise)
My favourite thing however was the subversion of the Skrulls being the bad guys that was done incredibly well imo. They went from looking terrifying to scared refugees in one scene credit to Ben pulling off that emotional weight under all that makeup.
And of course I loved the scene where she finally unleashes all her power and starts tearing through ships.
With that said there were also a lot of things I didn't like
For me from about the second scene you knew Law's character was going to turn out to be a villain so that reveal when it came around had no weight at all
There were quite a few scenes where I felt Brie was a little flat
The unconventional storytelling was at times a bit jarring.
The eventual reunion between Danvers & Rambo felt like it didn't have the emotional weight it could & should have because we only got one tiny scene with them together before.
The trailer gave away literally all the best action of the movie (I know this is something a lot of trailers are guilty of now but here it really felt like we had already seen all the big set pieces)
The final showdown with the Supreme Intelligence felt a little by the numbers, thought we might have got something else since it was meant to mental
I got the whole trying to make a change from the traditional final battle between her and Law's character by having her just blast him but I thought such a big part of her arc deserved more.
Finally Nick Fury's eye (honestly feel like I could write a whole thread on this) no other way to put it in my opinion that was complete trash. While the Skrull subversion was fantastic this just felt lazy and tbh a rather disappointing explanation. The 7 guys and 3 women I was with thought the same.
Overall I would give it a 6.5/7 out of 10 its by no means a terrible movie but if I had to rate it in amongst all the other Marvel movies I would rate it 11th because to me that's what it felt like a very middle of the road film not bad but not great by any means.
Saw it last night. I’d give it s 6.5 or 7. Didn’t really like it like other MCU films. The first 25 minutes dragged for me and brought the film down
Marvel should really try to upgrade the directors for the sequel. There was nothing special about anything in this movie other than the cast. And other than a few references and some gags, the 90s setting did nothing for the art direction or story. 6.5/10
Well, I liked this a lot. I was afraid this was going to be another Ant-Man and the Wasp (an utter mediocirty, the real disappointment of Phase 3 and probably their worst movie since The Dark World, at least for me) after hearing the initial reviews but I'm happy to say this wasn't the case. Not by a long shot. Loved the way they presented the the origin story as a mystery Carol herself has to solve, really clever (I had a friend who hadn't seen any trailers and at the beginning though "Vers" was human-like extraterrestrial like Superman or Thor and the first flashback where we see the Earth hangar got him compeltely by surprise) and the way the story itself forces Carol to change feels more earned than in most CBMs as well, Brie was great juggling the breakneck-speed changing characterizations of such a character. Upper tier for me, among Black Panther and Ragnarok.
I saw this movie last Saturday but I am just finding the time to share my thoughts about it on here now.
I have been honest in the past that Captain Marvel isn't my favourite character in the comics. I think the movie version has some problems and I will get these out of my system first. I don't like that Carol is an aspiring airforce pilot in 1995. That makes her someone who wasn't turned off by the Gulf War and positions her really awkwardly knowing that the U.S invasion of Iraq would be on the horizon for her if she didn't get her powers. I still don't like that. I know some are going to role their eyes at this position, but I think it's important to say.
Ultimately, I liked this movie a lot more than I thought I would. Larson was charismatic and had natural chemistry with everyone in the movie. I've heard people critique the script for making Carol a "blank slate" for most of the film. I actually think this was a really important direction to go in. Iron Man is a man whose life transforms from offence to defence. Thor is a man exiled to a strange world. Captain America is a man outside of his time. Captain Marvel is a woman trying to reclaim her past (and agency). This is a good hook to get audiences engaged and shows that Marvel is giving this character the same care they gave the boys.
The supporting characters in this movie were fantastic, and Larson's chemistry with them is absolutely essential to this movie's success. Fury is an important character in this movie. Not only does he bring familiarity and levity, he also makes this movie an important piece of the MCU's world-building. Maria Rambeau took me by surprise as the heart of this movie. I think audiences felt the weight of Carol's loss when she re-met her best-friend. Monica did a massive amount of work humanizing Carol in a movie that is really about humanizing its protagonist. I am hyped to re-encounter Monica in the sequel - Make Photon an Avenger!
Captain Marvel is also important for building more of cosmic marvel. We see more of the Kree being a dominant empire, colonizing and oppressing. Carol's arc here is a lot like She-Ra's actually, which is an interesting comparison. Carol eventually becomes disillusioned with being on the side of the empire, both because they took her human life away and because they are oppressing the Skrulls. I can't help but feel like the Kree/Skrull dynamic is an unconscious projection of the film's positioning within the American empire: 1990s United States is the dominant military power in the world and it has a history of vilifying their enemies to justify wars over resources - sound familiar??? Carol denounces the Kree but would never denounce being an American lol
The Skrulls turn out to be sympathetic characters - refugees persecuted by the Kree empire. The Skrulls allow Carol to come to turns with her heroism and also explain why she's been away from earth for decades. Making the Skrulls refugees was a good move, but I had to roll my eyes at how the movie portrays them. We start to like the Skrulls after we find out that they have families. The Skrulls become exactly like your basic normative humans in every way despite their green skin, including the men having docile wives and passive children waiting to be saved. It says a lot that the film doesn't trust audiences to be sympathetic to fictional characters if they are too different, despite those characters being friggin shape-changing aliens who could have a whole range of cool differences. It's hard to fault the movie for being so SAFE but but I'm annoyed none-the-less.
Overall, the movie checked a lot of boxes:
- Empowerment: the montage of Carol getting up is hugely powerful in the way its used in the film
- Action and special effects: they didn't hold Carol's powers back in the end
- World building: Kree and Skrulls, pre-history of the Avengers, early SHEILD
- Setting up sequels: Monica Rambeau, more Skrulls, putting Carol on Earth
- Feminism: the protagonist reclaims her agency and has meaningful relationships with other women in her life
The movie is arguably very safe, however I consider it to be my favourite MCU origin movie. 8/10
So i finally saw the movie. My spoilery review follows.
-First things first. The Marvel Studio logo was pure awesome. It got me right in the feels. A great tribute to Stan the Man and a great way to start the movie.
As for the movie itself:
-The story was pretty straightforward. Nothing groundbreaking but neither boring or bland in the slightest. It was a great introduction to CM and i enjoyed every bit of it.
-I really liked the whole memory loss aspect and how she was slowly piecing it back together (with the various flashbacks).
-I already knew about the plot twist, with the Skrulls being the good guys and the Kree the bad so i wasn't really surprised but imo it was handled pretty well (if my audience's reactions were any indication lol).
-Although the 1st and 2nd acts were solid action-wise, it was the 3rd act that took the movie in a whole other level. Seeing Carol make quick work of Starforce and then blasting the Kree fleet was . Also, the scene where she breaks free from the SI's control was chill inducing .
-From the supporting cast, everyone brought their A game acting-wise. Jackson and Mendelson were the standouts but everyone was good.
-Goose was a scene stealer (but then again i have 4 cats so I may be a bit biased on this, lol)
-Brie Larson. The greatest part of the film for me. She was EVERYTHING. From her portrayal of the unemotional Kree soldier to her slowly discovering her past (alongside with her humane, more emotional side), leading to a heartfelt reunion with Maria and subsequently kicking some Kree a**, she was phenomenal. She has amazing facial expressions (as someone already mentioned, the scene where she is reading the report of her accident is a good example). Her banter with Fury was one of the highlights of the film (she has great chemistry with Jackson). Also loved how sassy and cocky she was. All in all terrific acting.
-The music score was fine and the songs used throughout the film were good. I had my reservations when i heard that Just a Girl was playing during one of the big action scenes of the 3rd act but actually, it fit nicely.
-The CGI was very good. Maybe a bit weaker at some points, but overall it was pretty spot on.
-The film fit nicely into the MCU. I loved all the easter eggs and references to the grander MCU (the tesseract and project pegasus, how Fury lost his eye, Carol "Avenger" Danvers etc.). Coulson's and Ronan's glorified cameos were a nice touch.
-About the mid-credit scene there are no words needed. 25th April can't come soon enough. So excited to see Carol interact with the other Avengers.
Some minor nitpicks:
-Some of the jokes, especially in the 1st half didn't really land for me
-Some action scenes in the Skrull spaceship, right after Carol broke free from the memory machine, were weirdly edited
-I wanted to see more of Minn-erva
-I wanted a bit more development in the Carol-Maria relationship
I LOVED the film. It's among my top 3 origin MCU movies and among my top 10 MCU movies in general. After this debut, sky's the limit for Carol and i can't wait to see what the future holds for her. A solid 9/10 from me.
Just got back, and I liked it a lot, I would even say I loved it up until the finale which Unfortunately for me was a bit of a let down a side everything felt too easy for her. However, everything leading up to that was great.
I am a sucker for sci-fi and an amnesiac piecing together their past stories so this was right up my alley. I did love all the space stuff but I liked the Earth stuff just as much in the end. I thought Brie was great in the role and I liked the changes they made to her origin (I thought they were going to fit the ‘wishing’ machine in there somehow but the hyperdrive made much more sense).
I already knew of the twist but even so I thought Mendelsohn as Talos was brilliant, as were the entire supporting cast who all had important parts to play. It’s kind with a better finale this is top tier MCU fare for me, but after discovering her full powers everything seemed just a bit too easy for my liking. The way they showed the discovery was really well done though, and I hope we get a sequel that explains what happened in the past a bit more. I really don’t know how the likes of AMATW and Doctor Strange get better critic score than this though, I preferred it to both. Bring on Endgame, 8/10.
When I initially saw the film last week, my reaction wasn’t uncommon from a lot of the others posted here. I thought that it was good, not great. I felt that the first half was a bit wonky while the second was much more interesting. Ultimately, there’s nothing that I can say that hasn’t already been said.
Today, I saw the film a second time mostly due to free time + AMC A-List + having already seen anything that interests me at least once. I don’t know why, maybe it is because I knew what to expect this time, but I really REALLY enjoyed this movie more on second viewing. I still liked all of the things that I liked before, but I also gained appreciation for aspects of the film that I hadn’t previously...uhhhhh... I guess appreciated. For instance, they really did an amazing job of incorporating a lot of the comics’ Mar-Vell characterization as well as the origin of Ms Marvel.
Honestly, I’m very impressed. It still isn’t top 5 for me, but I think it’s really a lot better than I initially gave it credit for. Also, I genuinely really liked Brie Larson in the role and thought that she had good chemistry with just about everyone in the film.
I can’t help but feel that the trailers, to at least some degree, did a disservice to this film and set it up to be a very different movie than what we actually got.
I had a similar experience. I had a great time on opening night, but mostly because of the ambiance in the theater and having fun with friends, the movie itself didn't make much of an impression on me initially. Everybody else seemed to love it, though, and the theater was very rowdy.
I saw it again a few days later, and really connected with the film a lot more, and particularly with the lead character's story.
Thank you!!!! I needed this to reassure myself that I’m not just crazy!