The Clinton Thread II - Part 2

[Marvolo]

Tim Kaine: Democrats Will Nuke Filibuster For Supreme Court Nominees If GOP Won’t Cooperate

Senate Republicans are already indicating they’ll block any potential nominee put forward by Hillary Clinton.

Vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine warned on Thursday that his party would move to eliminate rules allowing a minority of Senate Republicans to block Supreme Court nominees should they refuse to consider those nominated by a future president Hillary Clinton.

Kaine was not predicting Clinton’s victory, though, during a sit-down interview with The Huffington Post at the Land Grant Brewing Company, he expressed confidence with where the election stood 11 days out. Instead, the Virginia senator was responding to recent remarks from Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Ted Cruz (R-Texas) indicating that they were prepared to leave the current Supreme Court vacancy open should Clinton end up winning, leaving only eight justices on the bench.

“I was in the Senate when the Republicans’ stonewalling around appointments caused Senate Democratic majority to switch the vote threshold on appointments from 60 to 51. And we did it on everything but a Supreme Court justice,” Kaine said. “If these guys think they’re going to stonewall the filling of that vacancy or other vacancies, then a Democratic Senate majority will say, ‘We’re not going to let you thwart the law.’”

Democrats, Kaine ultimately predicted, “will change the Senate rules to uphold the law.”

Kaine’s remarks add some teeth to threats being made by Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) this week. The Nevada Democrat, in an interview with Talking Points Memo, said that his party was prepared to change the rules of the Senate to eliminate GOP ability to block Supreme Court nominations should Republican intransigence continue into a prospective Clinton administration.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5813a8f4e4b0990edc31285f

 

[souvlaki]

NBC is reporting the only thing the FBI knows is Huma sent emails from Weiner's computer but does not know the content as they need a court order. In other words Comey released a statement prematurely in an obvious attempt for an October surprise, the media latched onto it desperate for anything and in the end it will probably be nothing.

 

[DeadPresident]

Because any accusations against the Clintons are conspiratorial hogwash, and when a democrat does something wrong it's not as severe as if one of the evil republicans does the same thing

 

[Schlosser85]

If the GOP flat-out admits they're going to block any Supreme Court nominee Obama or Hillary put forth, regardless of who it is, that's just blatantly admitting their political bias and the fact that they're willing to hold up an important government appointment out of partisan obstructionism. It's a blatant admission of dereliction of duty. And it's a lack of patriotism from people who cry the loudest about it.

Merrick Garland is about as moderate an option as they could ask for. Them being so petty about this could come back and bite them.

 

[E.NormusJohnson]

NBC is reporting the only thing the FBI knows is Huma sent emails from Weiner's computer but does not know the content as they need a court order. In other words Comey released a statement prematurely in an obvious attempt for an October surprise, the media latched onto it desperate for anything and in the end it will probably be nothing.

Comey has something. He didn't initially hence his reluctant press conference a month or so ago. Democrats can't have it both ways by saying he was impartial initally and now he's playing partisan politics. This is not normal procedure for the FBI regardless.. something funny is going on to be honest.

 

[DeadPresident]

Comey has something. He didn't initially hence his reluctant press conference a month or so ago. Democrats can't have it both ways by saying he was impartial initally and now he's playing partisan politics. This is not normal procedure for the FBI regardless.. something funny is going on to be honest.

This cycle is a soap opera designed to get reaction from the public and they usually use information or incidents that look pertinent, but aren't - don't get your hopes up.

 

[GregComicFan]

Democrat has extramartial affairs, harrasses females, assaults females, lies about it....

Republicans flip out. Democrats defend to their last breath.

Years and years and years later, a Republican candidate is accussed of the same things.

Democrats flip out. Republicans (those who like Trump) defend to their last breath.

Ludacris!!!!!

Everybody has an agenda. No one cares about the truth. Regardless of whether Trump wins or not (but especially if he loses) the female accusers will all disappear... Almost magically.

 

[DeadPresident]

The difference is Bill seems like a nice sexual assaulter while Trump is an ***hole sexual assaulter. If you come across as a nice guy your indiscretions don't seem as bad.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

If the GOP flat-out admits they're going to block any Supreme Court nominee Obama or Hillary put forth, regardless of who it is, that's just blatantly admitting their political bias and the fact that they're willing to hold up an important government appointment out of partisan obstructionism. It's a blatant admission of dereliction of duty. And it's a lack of patriotism from people who cry the loudest about it.

Merrick Garland is about as moderate an option as they could ask for. Them being so petty about this could come back and bite them.

Unfortunately they might have to change the Senate rules just to uphold the Constitution because one political party is utterly derelict. I'd rather we lived in a world where that wasn't necessary but it may have to be.

 

[souvlaki]

Comey has something. He didn't initially hence his reluctant press conference a month or so ago. Democrats can't have it both ways by saying he was impartial initally and now he's playing partisan politics. This is not normal procedure for the FBI regardless.. something funny is going on to be honest.

Democrats never said he was impartial, I'm not sure where that is coming from. When the report came out they were ragging on him for spending the entire press conference stating his opinion on the email scandal instead of acting impartial. At most he knows that Huma sent three emails to Clinton from Anthony's computer but doesn't know the content. To think announcing this two weeks before the election is anything other than political is naive.

 

[SV Fan]

Democrat has extramartial affairs, harrasses females, assaults females, lies about it....

Republicans flip out. Democrats defend to their last breath.

Years and years and years later, a Republican candidate is accussed of the same things.

Democrats flip out. Republicans (those who like Trump) defend to their last breath.

Ludacris!!!!!

Everybody has an agenda. No one cares about the truth. Regardless of whether Trump wins or not (but especially if he loses) the female accusers will all disappear... Almost magically.

I will say there is one difference between Democrat and Republican extramarital affairs. Democrats don't push how they are running on "family values". The second you run on how you are a more "moral" person you set yourself up for more ridicule when something happens that goes against that

 

[GregComicFan]

I will say there is one difference between Democrat and Republican extramarital affairs. Democrats don't push how they are running on "family values". The second you run on how you are a more "moral" person you set yourself up for more ridicule when something happens that goes against that

How many Republicans disowned Trump after the Access Hollywood video?

A LOT

So they stood for their values

 

[souvlaki]

So now I guess the issue is Huma never mentioned using her husband's computer for emails but they still don't know the content? Seems like kind of a non-story that basically just hurts Huma and doesn't really directly involve Clinton (outside her working under Clinron).

 

[souvlaki]

How many Republicans disowned Trump after the Access Hollywood video?

A LOT

So they stood for their values

Most were more upset over the language than the actions he described in the video.

 

[Charlatan]

I will say there is one difference between Democrat and Republican extramarital affairs. Democrats don't push how they are running on "family values". The second you run on how you are a more "moral" person you set yourself up for more ridicule when something happens that goes against that

Doesn't matter. All you have to do is say "Jesus forgave me" and all is well. Just listen to what they say about Donald being "reborn in Christ" and a "New Man".

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Because any accusations against the Clintons are conspiratorial hogwash, and when a democrat does something wrong it's not as severe as if one of the evil republicans does the same thing

It's basically like a prude attacking you for adultry then you exposing them for being sexually deviant, hypocrites.

Are you wrong for exposing their hypocrisy?

 

[hitmanyr2k]

Comey has something. He didn't initially hence his reluctant press conference a month or so ago. Democrats can't have it both ways by saying he was impartial initally and now he's playing partisan politics. This is not normal procedure for the FBI regardless.. something funny is going on to be honest.

Not necessarily lol. Comey is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He could be just covering his ass and over-compensating for all of the "rigged" talk. If he knows they have something (but can't tell if it's significant or trivial) does he take a chance that it turns out to be significant and explodes after the election and everyone accuses him of holding onto information rigging the election for Hillary? If he tells everyone now that they're still investigating at least he covers his ass and no one can accuse him of rigging anything. Then of course the flip side is that this is all nothing and he just swayed a few voters to Trump's side which in case if Hillary wins the election she's going to sh**can his ass anyway

 

[SV Fan]

How many Republicans disowned Trump after the Access Hollywood video?

A LOT

So they stood for their values

How many came back and said they are voting for him anyways. I'll give credit to Senators Jeff Flake and Ben Sasse who have been anti Trump from day one but these guys are the exception rather then the norm(that being said I don't believe either is the "i'm a christian therefore I have a better moral guide" type Republicans)

Doesn't matter. All you have to do is say "Jesus forgave me" and all is well. Just listen to what they say about Donald being "reborn in Christ" and a "New Man".

Funny things is disgraced Republicans generally seem to have a better ability to come back, where as Democrats throw there disgraced politicians under the bus

 

[DeadPresident]

It's basically like a prude attacking you for adultry then you exposing them for being sexually deviant, hypocrites.

Are you wrong for exposing their hypocrisy?

Not at all, but where I come from morality dictates that a crime be punished and treated identically irrespective of what that person may or may not have said about the conduct before.

I understand the hypocrisy and I agree with it being pointed out irrespective of who it is, a transgression is a transgression. I do find it amusing though that democrats and leftists seem to have pardoned Bill but demonize Trump. They're cut from the same generational cloth where women are concerned, both appear to be philandering and immoral, but only one is being asked to account for it.

I also find it ironic that now that Trump's history has come out he's suddenly considered a republican but when he committed half these acts he was Buddy Buddy with the Clintons and probably considered a democrat.

When the definition of morality changes based on who does the crime I have to laugh...and cry.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

How many Republicans disowned Trump after the Access Hollywood video?

A LOT

So they stood for their values

Maybe their integrity would be unquestionable if their unendorsement wasn't so politically beneficial at the time.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

So now I guess the issue is Huma never mentioned using her husband's computer for emails but they still don't know the content? Seems like kind of a non-story that basically just hurts Huma and doesn't really directly involve Clinton (outside her working under Clinron).

It doesn't matter what they actually have at this point. There is only 11 days to go to the election. All the average American voter will see is the headlines saying she is under investigation.

I definitely think this will damage her and puts the election in doubt. I still think she's the favorite because that 272 EV wall will be tough to crack, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't tighten now.

 

[E.NormusJohnson]

Not necessarily lol. Comey is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He could be just covering his ass and over-compensating for all of the "rigged" talk. If he knows they have something (but can't tell if it's significant or trivial) does he take a chance that it turns out to be significant and explodes after the election and everyone accuses him of holding onto information rigging the election for Hillary? If he tells everyone now that they're still investigating at least he covers his ass and no one can accuse him of rigging anything. Then of course the flip side is that this is all nothing and he just swayed a few voters to Trump's side which in case if Hillary wins the election she's going to sh**can his ass anyway

Perhaps. But... making this public. Now? Whether they have new pertinent info or not is in fact remarkable. Comey is setting a new precedent for the FBI.

 

[SV Fan]

I definitely think this will damage her and puts the election in doubt. I still think she's the favorite because that 272 EV wall will be tough to crack, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't tighten now.

More then anything this hurts down ballot races. At most she loses like 1-2% when you factor in swing voters and people just not showing up

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Not at all, but where I come from morality dictates that a crime be punished and treated identically irrespective of what that person may or may not have said about the conduct before.

I understand the hypocrisy and I agree with it being pointed out irrespective of who it is, a transgression is a transgression. I do find it amusing though that democrats and leftists seem to have pardoned Bill but demonize Trump. They're cut from the same generational cloth where women are concerned, both appear to be philandering and immoral, but only one is being asked to account for it.

I also find it ironic that now that Trump's history has come out he's suddenly considered a republican but when he committed half these acts he was Buddy Buddy with the Clintons and probably considered a democrat.

When the definition of morality changes based on who does the crime I have to laugh...and cry.

Yeah, the Republican sex scandals have more weight because they claim to be holier than thou and even push morally judgemental laws.

Of course Democrats don't care about Hugh Hefner's sex life but if he was trying to be the champion of the religious right and help them impose religious laws on the secular minded, the Democrats will point out that he's a charlatan.

And while Bill Clinton's adultry admittedly stains his legacy there's a distinction between being an adulterer and being a misogynistic sex offender.

These factors put together justifies the so-called double standard imo.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

If a Democrat did something like Newt Gingrich or Rudy Guliani and cheat on their wives, they would minimize it instead of maximizing it.

But not if the Democrat did something like Dennis Hastert (pedophilia) or Trump (blatant misogyny and sexual assualt)..