The Clinton Thread II

[Marvolo]

How many people could she have fed by donating $10k and buying a $2k jacket?

We need to roll up our Armani sleeves and get back to work!

I spent $20,000 on my car. Think of how many people I could have fed if Id bought a $2,000 car and donated $18,000. I spend thousands on blurays, books, and electronics every year. Think of how many I could have fed with that money.

Look, we all spend a disproportionate amount of our money on **** we do not need. It varies from person to person but every single one of us do it. And none of us absolutey none of us in here stop and think about how many people we could feed with the money we waste. When we do its usually random or after we've spent the money. Its human ****ing nature to buy and obtain stuff that makes oneself happy. Hillary spends her money on fine clothing. I spend mine on hundreds of blurays and other **** I dont need. Over half my income goes to electronics and books. I doubt Hillary spends half her income on expensive clothing. Relatively speaking Im probably worse than Hillary is. But **** anyone that says I don't hate inequality and that don't want it to change. I do and that doesnt change no matter how much money I spend or what I spend it on.

 

[Thundercrack85]

So youre saying if I win the lottery invest my money and make more money and start wearing nice armani and tom ford suits that its unlikely that I will care about inequality or any other problems effecting less fortunate people?Thats a load of horse****.

Bill Gates is one of the richest men in the world and Im sure he has some very expensive clothing and yet he is one of the biggest philanthropists on the planet.

And what about if someone buys themselves other expensive stuff. If a person has a million dollar or buys a race track or a stadium or a yacht or a plane are they also incapable of giving a **** about inequality?

When did we start judging the sencerity of a person's convictions by the price tag of their clothing and the **** they buy with their own money?

I think Jesus had something to say on the matter.

One would hope that the world's richest man was also be it's biggest philanthropist. Though if Bill Gates wore a 12,000 dollar suit to some charity event, I would again point out that it makes him look like an out of touch moron.

And yes, I would question how much you really care about poor people when you're buying those ridiculous things.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I spent $20,000 on my car. Think of how many people I could have fed if Id bought a $2,000 car and donated $18,000. I spend thousands on blurays, books, and electronics every year. Think of how many I could have fed with that money.

Look, we all spend a disproportionate amount of our money on **** we do not need. It varies from person to person but every single one of us do it. And none of us absolutey none of us in here stop and think about how many people we could feed with the money we waste. When we do its usually random or after we've spent the money. Its human ****ing nature to buy and obtain stuff that makes oneself happy. Hillary spends her money on fine clothing. I spend mine on hundreds of blurays and other **** I dont need. Over half my income goes to electronics and books. I doubt Hillary spends half her income on expensive clothing. Relatively speaking Im probably worse than Hillary is. But **** anyone that says I don't hate inequality and that don't want it to change. I do and that doesnt change no matter how much money I spend or what I spend it on.

Marv, you're just being silly here. You need a car. 20,000 dollars is not an unreasonable amount for an automobile. Hell, it costs less than twice as much as a Hillary Clinton jacket. You presumably use it frequently, to carry out your business, and life.

A better analogy would be you buying a Ferrari and showing up to a charity event.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Does it need justification? If you have the means, go ahead and have some fun on the side.

It does if you're wearing it to an event about income inequality. Maybe if she planned to use it as an example of income inequality.

 

[chaseter]

I spent $20,000 on my car. Think of how many people I could have fed if Id bought a $2,000 car and donated $18,000. I spend thousands on blurays, books, and electronics every year. Think of how many I could have fed with that money.

Look, we all spend a disproportionate amount of our money on **** we do not need. It varies from person to person but every single one of us do it. And none of us absolutey none of us in here stop and think about how many people we could feed with the money we waste. When we do its usually random or after we've spent the money. Its human ****ing nature to buy and obtain stuff that makes oneself happy. Hillary spends her money on fine clothing. I spend mine on hundreds of blurays and other **** I dont need. Over half my income goes to electronics and books. I doubt Hillary spends half her income on expensive clothing. Relatively speaking Im probably worse than Hillary is. But **** anyone that says I don't hate inequality and that don't want it to change. I do and that doesnt change no matter how much money I spend or what I spend it on.

When you spend $2 million on a car and drive it to give a speech on income equality...

$20k for a car is extremely reasonable.

Nm...thunder already took all the thunder.

 

[Schlosser85]

This argument is ridiculous and I'm totally with Marvolo. What Hillary spends her own money on is her own concern and frankly I don't buy the sincerity of some of the sentiments being expressed in here.

 

[DeadPresident]

I'd doubt the sincerity of an individual that seems not to think about her financial behavior while attempting to convince people she actually thinks about financial behavior.

Sincerity or not regarding other posters, all actions are meta-communicative. If I'm giving a speech at an AA meeting it's probably not a great idea to wear a Jack Daniels t-shirt or to do it while drinking a beer. You could say "Oh well, they should get over it", but I'm pretty sure if it was an issue that affected you personally your opinion would change quite quickly. It's not about what she spends her money on, it's about what her actions might say about her beliefs and thoughts. If I profess to care a lot about animal welfare but I wear fur and eat burgers every day I shouldn't be surprised if people tell me I'm full of ****.

A little austerity here and there doesn't sound like a bad thing, especially when the people she's supposed to be appealing to are going to be paying her salary and the American economy isn't exactly in a space where everyone's ****ting hundred dollar bills. But then again, Hillary's a born and bred 1%er - she doesn't actually give a **** about income inequality and wouldn't even if she was wearing jeans and a t shirt from Target.

 

[Schlosser85]

I'm pretty sure if it was an issue that affected you personally your opinion would change quite quickly

I scrape by paycheck to paycheck. But I don't care what Hillary Clinton is wearing or how much it costs. I think there are far bigger issues to focus on, and frankly it sounds like people making a mountain out of a molehill for their own purposes. I kind of call ******** on the whole argument, tbh.

 

[Matt]

Trump's surrogates who are trying to push this whole jacket controversy need to tread very lightly. Their candidate literally has solid 24k gold toilets in his yacht, private jet, and penthouse, the entire interior of which is literally gold plated. Shall we really discuss who is out of touch?

 

[Kelly]

What people spend their money on is their business. As far as Clinton is concerned I am far more concerned with how she voted on these matters as a Senator and the bills she will sign as President than how much her suit cost.....of which she probably didn't even buy herself. It's like swallowing an elephant and gagging on a gnat.....

 

[Schlosser85]

Trump's surrogates who are trying to push this whole jacket controversy need to tread very lightly. Their candidate literally has solid 24k gold toilets in his yacht, private jet, and penthouse, the entire interior of which is literally gold plated. Shall we really discuss who is out of touch?

Lmao Trump of all people has nothing to say

 

[chaseter]

Why people support and vote for these hypocrites that don't give a dump for the little guy is just so perplexing to me. People latch onto one or two pet issues they care about like abortion and then everything else is superficial.

 

[Donner]

People vote for issues that matter to them. That's bad why? Just because you see something as hypocritical, doesn't mean everyone else does. Or maybe they just don't care. There are hardly any politicians/parties (if any) that people wholeheartedly agree with on every issue. You vote for what matters to you, personally.

 

[DeadPresident]

That's fine and well, but it starts turning to the absurd when people will vote for a clearly incompetent candidate like Trump because he says A/B/C on relatively minor issues. If someone isn't fixing economic disparity, gun regulation and environmental concerns like alternative energy then they're not worth much in the long run.

It won't help much if abortion is legal, marijuana is easily accessible, education is free, etc if the economy is in the ****ter and there's no money for weed and no jobs for everyone with their nice new degrees. While those are important issues, they're fairly low in terms of what variables are likely to heavily affect each and every American.

 

[Bruce Banner]

I could care less about her wearing a 12,000 dollar potato sack. I'm more impressed a clothing company can sell one for 12,000 dollars and someone bought it.

People being critical of Hillary shouldn't automatically be assumed to be a Trump supporter or a republican for that matter. It's possible to weary of a candidate who has two active FBI investigations being done on her (after months of claiming it was a "security review") and a facade that is easily see through. Not to mention she can't be hit with a serious question without cackling like crazy.

 

[chaseter]

People vote for issues that matter to them. That's bad why? Just because you see something as hypocritical, doesn't mean everyone else does. Or maybe they just don't care. There are hardly any politicians/parties (if any) that people wholeheartedly agree with on every issue. You vote for what matters to you, personally.

Like people voting for Trump because they are fed up with Washington? I'm sure you respect the opinion's of Trump supporters?

It's a sad state of affairs when Clinton or Trump is the best we can do.

 

[Bruce Banner]

It's a sad state of affairs when Clinton or Trump is the best we can do.

This. Absolutely this.
The media coverage of this election is also revolting.

 

[Donner]

There is a difference with Trump. He has no plan. He's just spouting off nonsense. No Trump supporter has been able to come up with an intelligent reason for voting for Trump. It's all emotion and rhetoric.

I would have more respect for their opinions if there is one thing, just one, that Trump has a clear and concise plan for fixing that is somewhat reasonable.

 

[DeadPresident]

There is a difference with Trump. He has no plan. He's just spouting off nonsense. No Trump supporter has been able to come up with an intelligent reason for voting for Trump. It's all emotion and rhetoric.

I would have more respect for their opinions if there is one thing, just one, that Trump has a clear and concise plan for fixing that is somewhat reasonable.

This is politics since the information revolution that has come with 24 hour media and the internet. People in general are less and less informed about the crucial issues and vote according to whatever sounds and feels good.

Populist/representative democracy dictates that the average sentiment is the prevailing one.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Trump's surrogates who are trying to push this whole jacket controversy need to tread very lightly. Their candidate literally has solid 24k gold toilets in his yacht, private jet, and penthouse, the entire interior of which is literally gold plated. Shall we really discuss who is out of touch?

Both? I mean, obviously I have to support Hillary, but that doesn't make her any less out of touch. She's out of touch, and incredibly insincere but still relatively sane.

 

[Victarion]

What would happen if Hillary fleeced her Saudi handlers by taking the money and going against their wishes or whatever it is she does when she takes their money?

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Clinton statement on the U.K. voting (52-48) to leave the European Union:

Our first task has to be to make sure that the economic uncertainty created by these events does not hurt working families here in America. America's steadfast commitment to the special relationship with Britain and the transatlantic alliance with Europe. This time of uncertainty only underscores the need for calm, steady, experienced leadership in the White House to protect Americans' pocketbooks and livelihoods, to support our friends and allies, to stand up to our adversaries, and to defend our interests. It also underscores the need for us to pull together to solve our challenges as a country, not tear each other down.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/trump-praises-brexit-scotland

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Clinton statement on the U.K. voting (52-48) to leave the European Union:



http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/trump-praises-brexit-scotland

Meanwhile, the other candidate is making a complete ass out himself in regards to the matter haha.

 

[Raiden]

Meanwhile, the other candidate is making a complete ass out himself in regards to the matter haha.

Trump is using this moment to promote his new golf course in Scotland.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

OP ED
Immigration needs reform, not Trump's bigotry
by Hillary Clinton

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...hillary-clinton-immigration-arizona/86011342/