The Daily Planet Vol. 2: Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

[Tra-El]

This is still tracking without presales, so I’m taking this with a mountain of salt. They were predicting big numbers for The Flash at this point too. I’m keeping my expectations conservative for now. $100mil-$130mil. If it goes higher, that’s awesome.

Getting ancy lol

 

[Deck Rickard]

The Heatvision newsletter from the Hollywood Reporter had a small article on the Superman rumors about the film being in trouble.

They counter by saying there were only three days of pickups and no major reshoots. That Fleming was brought on earlier this year as a composer and both him and Murphy's music will be in the movie as well as plenty of Williams.

Their sources say none of this is unusual. One source chimed him by saying Gunn tests, tinkers, and takes suggestions, and will deliver the locked film next Friday as a sign of studio satisfaction.

Wait… I’m confused. They said the film is in trouble but then they also said that it’s just going through the usual editing process and everything is on track?

 

[flickchick85]

Wait… I’m confused. They said the film is in trouble but then they also said that it’s just going through the usual editing process and everything is on track?

I haven’t read it, but it sounds like they were addressing the report of the film being in trouble (wasn’t that report by World of Reel anyway??? They are constant BS peddlers), by basically saying “no it’s not.”

 

[STARMAN]

Wait… I’m confused. They said the film is in trouble but then they also said that it’s just going through the usual editing process and everything is on track?

The Hollywood Reporter didn't say the film was in trouble. They had a small article addressing those rumors that hit social media and countered it with their own sources.

 

[Deck Rickard]

The Hollywood Reporter didn't say the film was in trouble. They had a small article addressing those rumors about that hit social media and countered it with their own sources.

Gotcha. Okay yeah that makes sense. Thanks!

 

[dhandler01]

Isn't tracking now just based on engagement? Terrible metric imho.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Does this indicate that Superman as a character still has juice in 2025 and people are willing to give a new take on it a shot if it looks good? Because that indicates that people are more "fatigued" by the stale MCU and not being into/caring about certain characters (Sam Wilson Captain America, The Thunderbolts, The Marvels, etc), which is why Marvel has been struggling outside of Deadpool & Wolverine. Meanwhile, this is largely the launch of the DCU and people want to see what it has.

Fatigue can apply to any genre or trend tbh, just like everyone's tired of the Disney remakes, but regardless of the character or IP as long as the creative force behind it is driven to tell a story that has emotional resonance, AND if it's portrayed well, then people are gonna wanna check it out.

When the first Guardians came out in 2014, the MCU was in an expansionary mode, and possibilities seemed limitless. Now, whispers of “superhero fatigue” have grown louder than ever in the wake of the dual disappointments of Marvel’s Quantumania and DC’s Shazam! Fury of the Gods. “I think there is such a thing as superhero fatigue,” Gunn says. “I think it doesn’t have anything to do with superheroes. It has to do with the kind of stories that get to be told, and if you lose your eye on the ball, which is character. We love Superman. We love Batman. We love Iron Man. Because they’re these incredible characters that we have in our hearts. And if it becomes just a bunch of nonsense onscreen, it gets really boring. But I get fatigued by most spectacle films, by the grind of not having an emotionally grounded story. It doesn’t have anything to do with whether they’re superhero movies or not. If you don’t have a story at the base of it, just watching things bash each other, no matter how clever those bashing moments are, no matter how clever the designs and the VFX are, it just gets fatiguing, and I think that’s very, very real.”

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Superhero fatigue is real because the market is saturated, but now that the MCU will have legit competition they can't just rely on gimmicks and nostalgia. Now the best stories will get the glory regardless of which side it is.

 

[STARMAN]

Tracking is pretty useless without actual ticket sales to monitor. Quorum film tracking has Superman at 110-130 based on awareness.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Man of Steel made $116 million domestic on opening weekend so SUPERMAN will prolly make $120 million minimum. But this movie feels more like an event than MOS did and we're at 10+ years worth of inflation so I thinkin' more like $130 to $150 million.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I hope you guys are right. Although one thing Man of Steel had going for it on opening weekend was that audiences didn’t go into it having been previously burned by Man of Steel lol.

Gunn unfortunately had to contend with potential audience apathy after a big, previous letdown.

 

[flickchick85]

I hope you guys are right. Although one thing Man of Steel had going for it on opening weekend was that audiences didn’t go into it having been previously burned by Man of Steel lol.

Gunn unfortunately had to contend with potential audience apathy after a big, previous letdown.

No, but they had been burned by SR in more recent memory than MoS is in ours. I do agree though it feels like Superman as a brand has a bigger uphill battle with the GA than ever before, thanks to both those previous movies. I feel like if it manages to open around The Batman numbers we should be thrilled, genuinely. But if it somehow manages to do bigger…with good WOM? That’s a breakout smash. Of course I will hope for that, but I’m not going to expect it.

 

[Sawyer]

 

[Lily Adler]

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I couldn't tell that was David for a moment. Thought it was one of those AI Supermen that combines all their faces.

 

[Primal Slayer]

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This is not what you use for a tinder profile pic. Or a billboard.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Uh what?

Bald Chipp wants the reps for being holier than thou. Cavill once ‘’DATED’’ some gal who was 19-20. Only one in that age range out of the known women he has been with. Cavill now has settled with a lady who is in her late 30s. But eh.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I actually thought Cavill was either gay or bi and using beards.

The 19 year old and pics of him in WeHo including one of him licking a bald dude’s head, especially fueled that theory.

 

[Black Narcissus]

This is still tracking without presales, so I’m taking this with a mountain of salt. They were predicting big numbers for The Flash at this point too. I’m keeping my expectations conservative for now. $100mil-$130mil. If it goes higher, that’s awesome.

This wont open bigger than 30 mill.

 

[Lily Adler]

I actually thought Cavill was either gay or bi and using beards.

The 19 year old and pics of him in WeHo including one of him licking a bald dude’s head, especially fueled that theory.

Don't get @Sawyer's hopes up.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I actually thought Cavill was either gay or bi and using beards.

The 19 year old and pics of him in WeHo including one of him licking a bald dude’s head, especially fueled that theory.

baldness and Supermen. They can’t escape it.

 

[Lily Adler]

baldness and Supermen. They can’t escape it.

 

[dhandler01]

This wont open bigger than 30 mill.

This a weak effort...I have come to expect better!

 

[Herolee10]

While I'm grateful for what we've gotten so far, I'm a little surprised that there hasn't been any promotional material released yet for Rachel as Lois.

 

[titansupes]

 

[Deck Rickard]

No, but they had been burned by SR in more recent memory than MoS is in ours. I do agree though it feels like Superman as a brand has a bigger uphill battle with the GA than ever before, thanks to both those previous movies. I feel like if it manages to open around The Batman numbers we should be thrilled, genuinely. But if it somehow manages to do bigger…with good WOM? That’s a breakout smash. Of course I will hope for that, but I’m not going to expect it.

Yeah that is true. But yeah, I totally agree that this film has to contend with both of the previous Superman films being duds. Hopefully it does have a huge opening and WOM keeps it going. I do worry that general fatigue of the genre is possibly the biggest obstacle but maybe, just maybe, the fatigue right now is with Marvel and movies that are sub-par, or even really good movies that feature various characters that the GA doesn’t really know or care about going into it (i.e., Thunderbolts). I’m hoping Superman still has enough popularity and feels significant enough that people aren’t just like, “Oh, it’s another superhero movie.”

 

[titansupes]

I genuinely have such warm regard for SR, but I feel like that movie was all but forgotten about by the GA two weeks after it opened.