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I'm Not Sure How He Will Be As The Joker But I Guess We'll Have To Wait And See. Bb Was One Of The Best Movies Made Next To Spiderman.
 
Well, I trust Nolan's vision and I have no doubts about Ledger.

He can act and he does it very well. So he looks good as Joker and can be perfect choice.

I also like Nolan's strategy in the casting. He chooses actors, who usually plays positive character as the villians and actors, who usually plays bad guys as good guys.

The proof of this is:
Christian Bale - from Bateman to Batman
Liam Neeson - from jedi to Ras
Heath Ledger - from the knight to the Joker

Exclusions are:
Michael Caine
Morgan Freeman
Rutger Hauer
 
Katsuro said:
I'd think it would be the opposite. You need a love interest of some sort to attract a female audience.

Besides, Katie Holmes is cute, but not cute enough to make me spend $10 on a movie I wouldn't see otherwise.
I think Bale as Batman has enough pull to bring in the female audiences. But add Ledger to that and women definately wont need a love interest to go see the movie :)
And by the way, considering you like comics, you arent vapid are you?
So you dont count ;)
 
^ she has always looked a bit like a bulldog to me :p
With those jowls 'a hangin'
 
^ahhh now you mention it i see the bulldoggyness in her.....oh **** if tom cruise didnt beat you to it already, you would have ruined her for me for life.
 
Mentok said:
So are they fixing the Batsuit for this film?

No. Nothing on any "modifications" to the suit has been brought up. Not yet anyway. I'm sure that if there will be though, we'll know about it. Same goes for what's instore for the Tumbler.
 
The Dark Knight? How unoriginal...probably just a working title...

So far I am dissapointed with Ledger being chosen, not that I wish him any bad luck or stomach flus... ;) ;)

such a young Joker...all I can say is wow, just wow :(
 
ryan dube said:
The Dark Knight? How unoriginal...probably just a working title...

So far I am dissapointed with Ledger being chosen, not that I wish him any bad luck or stomach flus... ;) ;)

such a young Joker...all I can say is wow, just wow :(

We knew Joker was gonna be young to match Bale's Batman.

Second it is official title.

http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html
 
Okay. This is my thought(s) on the whole sequel thing so far. I do like the title The Dark Knight. Im not real excited about Ledger being cast as Joker. I just dont care for him as an actor. Im also worried about Nolans "realistic" approach towards the Batman "world". As for the Penguin being announced as a second villain (as per BOF's release) Im wondering how big a role he will have in the movie. To me, Joker and Penguin are the top 2 rogues and to have them both in the same flick may be overkill. The announcement that the role was offered to Phillip Seymour Hoffman, cool. After seeing him in Mi3, I think he could do a good job. Having said that, Im not sure what the characterization Nolan plans on giving Penguin. It is said that he is going to be a British arms dealer with designs on taking over Gotham and goes by the nickname, The Penguin. This isnt the character, but i will wait for further details before final judgement.

I have worries about this franchise, to say the least. The popular saying on the SHH boards is "In Nolan I Trust". Please. He is, after all, a Hollywood director. He only has a couple films under his belt (to my knowledge) Insomnia and Memento, both which i found to be very boring films. His latest, The Prestige does show some promise for me. Begins, to me, I found to be wuit unentertaining. A bit dull and, yes, boring. Was it a good story? Yes. However i feel it was a drab Batman film. The confrontation of Batman and Joker, whether it be comics, cartoons, or movies, should be huge. Im not sure if Nolan can deliver it. Again, Ill wait until more movie details become available before final judgement, but i, thus far, have low expectations.

I also have another thing running thru my mind, and let me share this with you. In 1988 when WB started the first big Batman project since the 60's they wanted something completely different and unique to bring new life to the Batman character. They found this with Tim Burton. Batman 1989 was huge. We all know this. Due to the success of 89, WB allowed Burton to do the sequel giving him more of an opertunity to do his vision. Thus, Batman Returns. Returns didnt make as much as 89 and, to this day, is almost split 50/50 with the fans. WB then wanted a new director to bring a more action/family accessable summer blockbuster to the franchise. Enter Joel Schumacher. Forever was a big hit in the summer of 95. Batman was back. Beause of the success of Forever, WB instantly greenlit another sequel and gave Schumacher the reigns to continue his vision. We got Batman and Robin, Schumachers "comic book" come to life. Now, 8 years later, Nolan shows up with his vision and brings back some respectability to the character as well as a more "realistic" look. Begins did well and embraced by most of the fanbase and critics. WB gives the go ahead for Nolan to do his sequel. Is this going to follow suit with all the other directors sequels? Is this going to be an even more "realistic" view of the Batman characters and world? Statements have already been made as to how he wants to approach Joker and Penguin. Time will tell, but as i said above, I remain very optimistic.
 
again, I feel like Nolan's world is as realistic as Burton, but just a different interpetation.
 
Octoberist said:
again, I feel like Nolan's world is as realistic as Burton, but just a different interpetation.
as real as burtons world was....the music and action was cartoony
 
xwolverine2 said:
as real as burtons world was....the music and action was cartoony


I dont feel Burtons vision of Gotham was real at all. He created a world that Batman could exist in, it transported you somewhere other than our own reality. Schumacher also did this. In Nolans world, he wanted to make it as if you were simply steping outside your front door. That, to me, is what makes Nolans vision of Batman boring.
 
does anyone agree with me that they should have saved halle berrys catwoman(but with a real catwoman costume) and save it for a batman sequel, then we wouldnt have had that catwoman movie
 
Super Flight said:
does anyone agree with me that they should have saved halle berrys catwoman(but with a real catwoman costume) and save it for a batman sequel, then we wouldnt have had that catwoman movie

No, they should have scrapped that version of Catwoman altogether and use the real Catwoman...Selina Kyle!
 
Super Flight said:
does anyone agree with me that they should have saved halle berrys catwoman(but with a real catwoman costume) and save it for a batman sequel, then we wouldnt have had that catwoman movie

While that would be good since it would have saved us from CINO, it would be bad because then Halle Berry would be in TDK.
 
hippie_hunter said:
No, they should have scrapped that version of Catwoman altogether and use the real Catwoman...Selina Kyle!

thats what i meant but catwoman would be halle berry (which no one has ever see befroe since the catwoman movie never happend)
 
halle berry as catwoman in the dark night or the third one would have been so much better then the movie catwoman that had nothing to do with the real catwoman
 
SHADOWBAT69 said:
Okay. This is my thought(s) on the whole sequel thing so far. I do like the title The Dark Knight. Im not real excited about Ledger being cast as Joker. I just dont care for him as an actor. Im also worried about Nolans "realistic" approach towards the Batman "world". As for the Penguin being announced as a second villain (as per BOF's release) Im wondering how big a role he will have in the movie. To me, Joker and Penguin are the top 2 rogues and to have them both in the same flick may be overkill. The announcement that the role was offered to Phillip Seymour Hoffman, cool. After seeing him in Mi3, I think he could do a good job. Having said that, Im not sure what the characterization Nolan plans on giving Penguin. It is said that he is going to be a British arms dealer with designs on taking over Gotham and goes by the nickname, The Penguin. This isnt the character, but i will wait for further details before final judgement.

I have worries about this franchise, to say the least. The popular saying on the SHH boards is "In Nolan I Trust". Please. He is, after all, a Hollywood director. He only has a couple films under his belt (to my knowledge) Insomnia and Memento, both which i found to be very boring films. His latest, The Prestige does show some promise for me. Begins, to me, I found to be wuit unentertaining. A bit dull and, yes, boring. Was it a good story? Yes. However i feel it was a drab Batman film. The confrontation of Batman and Joker, whether it be comics, cartoons, or movies, should be huge. Im not sure if Nolan can deliver it. Again, Ill wait until more movie details become available before final judgement, but i, thus far, have low expectations.

I also have another thing running thru my mind, and let me share this with you. In 1988 when WB started the first big Batman project since the 60's they wanted something completely different and unique to bring new life to the Batman character. They found this with Tim Burton. Batman 1989 was huge. We all know this. Due to the success of 89, WB allowed Burton to do the sequel giving him more of an opertunity to do his vision. Thus, Batman Returns. Returns didnt make as much as 89 and, to this day, is almost split 50/50 with the fans. WB then wanted a new director to bring a more action/family accessable summer blockbuster to the franchise. Enter Joel Schumacher. Forever was a big hit in the summer of 95. Batman was back. Beause of the success of Forever, WB instantly greenlit another sequel and gave Schumacher the reigns to continue his vision. We got Batman and Robin, Schumachers "comic book" come to life. Now, 8 years later, Nolan shows up with his vision and brings back some respectability to the character as well as a more "realistic" look. Begins did well and embraced by most of the fanbase and critics. WB gives the go ahead for Nolan to do his sequel. Is this going to follow suit with all the other directors sequels? Is this going to be an even more "realistic" view of the Batman characters and world? Statements have already been made as to how he wants to approach Joker and Penguin. Time will tell, but as i said above, I remain very optimistic.
I can only imagine how it would be if you were pessimistic. :(
 
SHADOWBAT69 said:
Okay. This is my thought(s) on the whole sequel thing so far. I do like the title The Dark Knight. Im not real excited about Ledger being cast as Joker. I just dont care for him as an actor. Im also worried about Nolans "realistic" approach towards the Batman "world". As for the Penguin being announced as a second villain (as per BOF's release) Im wondering how big a role he will have in the movie. To me, Joker and Penguin are the top 2 rogues and to have them both in the same flick may be overkill. The announcement that the role was offered to Phillip Seymour Hoffman, cool. After seeing him in Mi3, I think he could do a good job. Having said that, Im not sure what the characterization Nolan plans on giving Penguin. It is said that he is going to be a British arms dealer with designs on taking over Gotham and goes by the nickname, The Penguin. This isnt the character, but i will wait for further details before final judgement.

I have worries about this franchise, to say the least. The popular saying on the SHH boards is "In Nolan I Trust". Please. He is, after all, a Hollywood director. He only has a couple films under his belt (to my knowledge) Insomnia and Memento, both which i found to be very boring films. His latest, The Prestige does show some promise for me. Begins, to me, I found to be wuit unentertaining. A bit dull and, yes, boring. Was it a good story? Yes. However i feel it was a drab Batman film. The confrontation of Batman and Joker, whether it be comics, cartoons, or movies, should be huge. Im not sure if Nolan can deliver it. Again, Ill wait until more movie details become available before final judgement, but i, thus far, have low expectations.

I also have another thing running thru my mind, and let me share this with you. In 1988 when WB started the first big Batman project since the 60's they wanted something completely different and unique to bring new life to the Batman character. They found this with Tim Burton. Batman 1989 was huge. We all know this. Due to the success of 89, WB allowed Burton to do the sequel giving him more of an opertunity to do his vision. Thus, Batman Returns. Returns didnt make as much as 89 and, to this day, is almost split 50/50 with the fans. WB then wanted a new director to bring a more action/family accessable summer blockbuster to the franchise. Enter Joel Schumacher. Forever was a big hit in the summer of 95. Batman was back. Beause of the success of Forever, WB instantly greenlit another sequel and gave Schumacher the reigns to continue his vision. We got Batman and Robin, Schumachers "comic book" come to life. Now, 8 years later, Nolan shows up with his vision and brings back some respectability to the character as well as a more "realistic" look. Begins did well and embraced by most of the fanbase and critics. WB gives the go ahead for Nolan to do his sequel. Is this going to follow suit with all the other directors sequels? Is this going to be an even more "realistic" view of the Batman characters and world? Statements have already been made as to how he wants to approach Joker and Penguin. Time will tell, but as i said above, I remain very optimistic.

Memento! BORING?! Well if you found that movie dull and boring then you might as well just forget about enjoying The Dark Knight, this movie wouldnt be for you. It wont have explosions every 10 minutes or mindless action scenes. You know thats the problem with people nowadays the attention span has gone down the toilet films have been reduced to big shock moments and explosions. Now movies just forget about the story all together.

Im sorry if this sounds pretentious and pompous, i just don't think you have any decent taste in what is a good film and what isnt if you didnt enjoy a film like memento, which is in my opinion (and many many many others) one of the greatest crime films in cinema history. Heres a tip try paying attention next time ya DOOF!
 
Sharkboy said:
Memento! BORING?! Well if you found that movie dull and boring then you might as well just forget about enjoying The Dark Knight, this movie wouldnt be for you. It wont have explosions every 10 minutes or mindless action scenes. You know thats the problem with people nowadays the attention span has gone down the toilet films have been reduced to big shock moments and explosions. Now movies just forget about the story all together.

Im sorry if this sounds pretentious and pompous, i just don't think you have any decent taste in what is a good film and what isnt if you didnt enjoy a film like memento, which is in my opinion (and many many many others) one of the greatest crime films in cinema history. Heres a tip try paying attention next time ya DOOF!

Well said. :up: . But then it's different strokes for differnt folks. Some like ADD like movie with non stop action, pretty lights and cheesey dialouge. Some like more meaningful movies. I don't bash people cos they like Spider-man, Superman, Wonder Woman, Hulk ect. Good on them, differn't people like different things, which is why there are so many different characters and so many different ways to interpret them. People just need to accept other peoples tastes and open their minds to other possibilities...
 
SHADOWBAT69 said:
Okay. This is my thought(s) on the whole sequel thing so far. I do like the title The Dark Knight. Im not real excited about Ledger being cast as Joker. I just dont care for him as an actor. Im also worried about Nolans "realistic" approach towards the Batman "world". As for the Penguin being announced as a second villain (as per BOF's release) Im wondering how big a role he will have in the movie. To me, Joker and Penguin are the top 2 rogues and to have them both in the same flick may be overkill. The announcement that the role was offered to Phillip Seymour Hoffman, cool. After seeing him in Mi3, I think he could do a good job. Having said that, Im not sure what the characterization Nolan plans on giving Penguin. It is said that he is going to be a British arms dealer with designs on taking over Gotham and goes by the nickname, The Penguin. This isnt the character, but i will wait for further details before final judgement.

I have worries about this franchise, to say the least. The popular saying on the SHH boards is "In Nolan I Trust". Please. He is, after all, a Hollywood director. He only has a couple films under his belt (to my knowledge) Insomnia and Memento, both which i found to be very boring films. His latest, The Prestige does show some promise for me. Begins, to me, I found to be wuit unentertaining. A bit dull and, yes, boring. Was it a good story? Yes. However i feel it was a drab Batman film. The confrontation of Batman and Joker, whether it be comics, cartoons, or movies, should be huge. Im not sure if Nolan can deliver it. Again, Ill wait until more movie details become available before final judgement, but i, thus far, have low expectations.

I also have another thing running thru my mind, and let me share this with you. In 1988 when WB started the first big Batman project since the 60's they wanted something completely different and unique to bring new life to the Batman character. They found this with Tim Burton. Batman 1989 was huge. We all know this. Due to the success of 89, WB allowed Burton to do the sequel giving him more of an opertunity to do his vision. Thus, Batman Returns. Returns didnt make as much as 89 and, to this day, is almost split 50/50 with the fans. WB then wanted a new director to bring a more action/family accessable summer blockbuster to the franchise. Enter Joel Schumacher. Forever was a big hit in the summer of 95. Batman was back. Beause of the success of Forever, WB instantly greenlit another sequel and gave Schumacher the reigns to continue his vision. We got Batman and Robin, Schumachers "comic book" come to life. Now, 8 years later, Nolan shows up with his vision and brings back some respectability to the character as well as a more "realistic" look. Begins did well and embraced by most of the fanbase and critics. WB gives the go ahead for Nolan to do his sequel. Is this going to follow suit with all the other directors sequels? Is this going to be an even more "realistic" view of the Batman characters and world? Statements have already been made as to how he wants to approach Joker and Penguin. Time will tell, but as i said above, I remain very optimistic.

Actually Memento and Insominia were great movies, and Nolan haven't made any bad movie yet, so that is why we have no doubts about him.

Every his new movie becomes a new masterpiece, and I am sure the same will be wth BB franchise.
 
So is it BATMAN: The Dark Knight or just The Dark Knight?
 

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