The Dark Knight Rises The Dark Knight Rises Info Hunters Thread - - - - - Part 23

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[TheVileOne]

Back to The Future trilogy. Original Star Wars trilogy.

Lord of the Rings, Toy Story, etc. are basically exceptions to the rule.

I'm not saying it's impossible for Batman to buck the trend, but the trend is there. Dark Knight was such a beloved film and not just that but a phenomenon I don't see any way the Dark Knight Rises can top it. I think fans that think this will be the biggest movie of all time are setting themselves up for disappointment.

 

[itsthebatman]

Back to The Future trilogy. Original Star Wars trilogy.

Lord of the Rings, Toy Story, etc. are basically exceptions to the rule.

I'm not saying it's impossible for Batman to buck the trend, but the trend is there. Dark Knight was such a beloved film and not just that but a phenomenon I don't see any way the Dark Knight Rises can top it. I think fans that think this will be the biggest movie of all time are setting themselves up for disappointment.

I think that there is an acknowledgement that TDK is a hard act to follow, especially after Heath's performance as Batman's greatest foe. But I'm cautiously optimistic.

 

[The_Raganork]

Back to The Future trilogy. Original Star Wars trilogy.

Lord of the Rings, Toy Story, etc. are basically exceptions to the rule.

I'm not saying it's impossible for Batman to buck the trend, but the trend is there. Dark Knight was such a beloved film and not just that but a phenomenon I don't see any way the Dark Knight Rises can top it. I think fans that think this will be the biggest movie of all time are setting themselves up for disappointment.

Are you Suggesting Jedi was better than Empire?

 

[TheVileOne]

I am as well, but once again Batman and DC fanboys are deep down aware of this and threatened by Avengers.

 

[Octoberist]

Of course I'm cautious about this one too but inalways giventhe benefit of the doubt. Like after two bad X-Men movies, we are getting a prequel with rave reviews now? Anything can happen.

 

[TheVileOne]

Are you Suggesting Jedi was better than Empire?

No. In the eyes of fans Empire is the best and pinnacle of Star Wars. Jedi did well but it's not as popular and enduring and is considered silly because of the Ewoks and the phoned in performance by Harrison Ford.

The point is, good first movie, awesome second movie, weak and disappointing third movie. A trend which trilogies like Star Wars follows. Back To The Future follows. X-Men trilogy. Rambo trilogy. The Blade trilogy and numerous others.

 

[itsthebatman]

I am as well, but once again Batman and DC fanboys are deep down aware of this and threatened by Avengers.

Threatened in what way by Avengers?

 

[regwec]

I personally think everything rests on Anne Hathaway as Catwoman. She will represent the one totally new element and theme in the third part, and she more than anyone else has the potential to make it seem fresh and intriguing rather than a retread or an afterthought.

Good luck to you, gel.

 

[HighFivingMF]

What's the deal with this Youtube page?

 

[Octoberist]

I am as well, but once again Batman and DC fanboys are deep down aware of this and threatened by Avengers.

Sure. At the same time, if DkR can transend beyond comic fans and into the public and critic's realm like Dark Knight, it doesn't matter.

 

[The_Raganork]

No. In the eyes of fans Empire is the best and pinnacle of Star Wars. Jedi did well but it's not as popular and enduring and is considered silly because of the Ewoks and the phoned in performance by Harrison Ford.

The point is, good first movie, awesome second movie, weak and disappointing third movie. A trend which trilogies like Star Wars follows. Back To The Future follows. X-Men trilogy. Rambo trilogy. The Blade trilogy and numerous others.

Oh you're saying these films follow the three film "curse" so to speak?

You think the Lord of the Rings and Toy Story follow that trend too?

That being said; I worry people will be overwhelmed by "ZOMG LOOK AT ALL THE SUPER HEROEZ!" with Avengers

Its undermines good film making with such a gimmick.

However, if it's good...it's good.

 

[TheVileOne]

Threatened in what way by Avengers?

They can not tolerate the Avengers movie's existence.

 

[The_Raganork]

What's the deal with this Youtube page?

It's fake; check the viral thread for details

 

[TheVileOne]

Oh you're saying these films follow the three film "curse" so to speak?

You think the Lord of the Rings and Toy Story follow that trend too?

That being said; I worry people will be overwhelmed by "ZOMG LOOK AT ALL THE SUPER HEROEZ!" with Avengers

Its undermines good film making with such a gimmick.

However, if it's good...it's good.

No. As I said, things like Lord of The Rings, Toy Story, and even the Bourne trilogy are the exceptions to the rule. A rule which generally holds up time and time again with these big tentpole movies.

 

[regwec]

I would personally sacrifice every Marvel hero at the altar of Batman- and 9/10 of their DC "inspirations".

 

[itsthebatman]

They can not tolerate the Avengers movie's existence.

Really? I'd love a great Avengers movie and a fantastic end to Nolan's Bat-trilogy.

 

[Boom]

TheVileOne, I honestly don't understand what you're getting at. We're threatened by the very existence of The Avengers? We can't tolerate the idea behind it?

Uh... what?

Anyone who actually feels "threatened" by another film potentially being more successful than their most-anticipated movie is a moron who doesn't deserve to go to the cinema in the first place. What a genuinely stupid thing to be upset by.

 

[itsthebatman]

No. As I said, things like Lord of The Rings, Toy Story, and even the Bourne trilogy are the exceptions to the rule. A rule which generally holds up time and time again with these big tentpole movies.

Bourne Identity>>>>>>Supremacy=Ultimatum

I would personally sacrifice every Marvel hero at the altar of Batman- and 9/10 of their DC "inspirations".

Explain, O wise one.

 

[ilovelamp18]

I personally think everything rests on Anne Hathaway as Catwoman. She will represent the one totally new element and theme in the third part, and she more than anyone else has the potential to make it seem fresh and intriguing rather than a retread or an afterthought.

Good luck to you, gel.

i somewhat disagree. yes a lot is expected of hathaway but if hardy can't find a way to provide a greater or at least equal villain in comparison to the joker then the dark knight will be considered the best of the three.

 

[itsthebatman]

Anyone who actually feels "threatened" by another film making more money then their most-anticipated one is a moron.

What a genuinely stupid thing to be upset by.

Doesn't it wake you in the middle of the night, sheets soaked in sweat?

 

[The_Raganork]

No. As I said, things like Lord of The Rings, Toy Story, and even the Bourne trilogy are the exceptions to the rule. A rule which generally holds up time and time again with these big tentpole movies.

Gotcha, thanks for clearing it up. I apologize.

I would personally sacrifice every Marvel hero at the altar of Batman- and 9/10 of their DC "inspirations".

Yeah, my favorite Marvel films are X2 and Spiderman-2 and I still prefer BB and TDK MILES over them"

But, the other DC films have been lackluster to me. I did not like Watchmen, but enjoyed Superman Returns (weird right?)

But even SR I found to be lesser than S2 and X2

But no one makes a bad movie like Marvel: Fantastic 4 and the Sequel; the Hulk disaster...

 

[TheVileOne]

TheVileOne, I honestly don't understand what you're getting at. We're threatened by the very existence of The Avengers? We can't tolerate the idea behind it?

Uh... what?

Anyone who actually feels "threatened" by another film potentially being more successful than their most-anticipated movie is a moron who doesn't deserve to go to the cinema in the first place. What a genuinely stupid thing to be upset by.

I agree, and yet the animosity still exists.

 

[regwec]

Explain, O wise one.

I probably can't. I think I am simply tribally loyal to what I grew up with, which was Batman, and a bit of Superman and Wonderwoman (I have sisters).

I don't hate Marvel in any way, but it just doesn't interest me at all. I hope The Revengers is good and Marvel fans enjoy it, but I won't bother to see it until I find myself sitting in front of it on TV or during a flight.