The Dark Knight The Fate of Two Face

[Ace of Knaves]

i think its possible while the police were chasing batman, harvey just casually got up dusted himself off and went down to the local battle cruiser and had a quick "half".

 

[Rincewind]

Remember what Harvey Dent said in the restaurant:

"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

This means that either:

He died as a hero

or

He lived long enough to become the villain in the third movie!!

No.

It meant that while he died like a villain, he had to be presented to the society as the dead hero, while Batman, who will live a hero, will be thought the villain ergo the point of the "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." line.

 

[SuperZer0]

If Eckhart knew that Dent is dead (who knows better than the guy who played the character himself, eh?), then why did he say this:

"Aaron Eckhart would reprise his role from The Dark Knight - because working with Christian Bale is "phenomenal".
Eckhart, who plays District Attorney Harvey Dent in the sequel, confesses he "absolutely" would star in a third Batman film.
He tells WENN, "To work with Christian (Bale) all over again, and the cast, would be phenomenal. I think this movie is a movie of a lifetime."

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0265713/

Source: WENN.com

If Dent was officially DEAD, he wouldn't be saying this, unless the article above is completely false.

I'm not saying he is alive, but I'm not saying he is dead too. 50/50 for me. Just like WB (Emma Thomas) has said.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

thats very interesting, but maybe hes talking about working with bale again in other movies? i heard aaron was signed on for 2 films anyway?

 

[SuperZer0]

No.

It meant that while he died like a villain, he had to be presented to the society as the dead hero, while Batman, who will live a hero, will be thought the villain ergo the point of the "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." line.

My mind was just spinning while I was reading what you said. Woof..

 

[chaseter]

If Eckhart knew that Dent is dead (who knows better than the guy who played the character himself, eh?), then why did he say this:

"Aaron Eckhart would reprise his role from The Dark Knight - because working with Christian Bale is "phenomenal".
Eckhart, who plays District Attorney Harvey Dent in the sequel, confesses he "absolutely" would star in a third Batman film.
He tells WENN, "To work with Christian (Bale) all over again, and the cast, would be phenomenal. I think this movie is a movie of a lifetime."

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0265713/

Source: WENN.com

If Dent was officially DEAD, he wouldn't be saying this, unless the article above is completely false.

I'm not saying he is alive, but I'm not saying he is dead too. 50/50 for me. Just like WB (Emma Thomas) has said.

Did he write the script? Is he writing the next script? Actors say they would love to be in [insert movie] all the time

 

[Two_Face]

And considering he's received so many good reviews for his role as Dent, I'm sure if Nolan saw so much praise, he'd surely consider a Two-Face return.

 

[The Englishman]

If Eckhart knew that Dent is dead (who knows better than the guy who played the character himself, eh?), then why did he say this:

"Aaron Eckhart would reprise his role from The Dark Knight - because working with Christian Bale is "phenomenal".
Eckhart, who plays District Attorney Harvey Dent in the sequel, confesses he "absolutely" would star in a third Batman film.
He tells WENN, "To work with Christian (Bale) all over again, and the cast, would be phenomenal. I think this movie is a movie of a lifetime."

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0265713/

Source: WENN.com

If Dent was officially DEAD, he wouldn't be saying this, unless the article above is completely false.

I'm not saying he is alive, but I'm not saying he is dead too. 50/50 for me. Just like WB (Emma Thomas) has said.

Hes saying that so he does not spoil the movie for anyone who has not seen it yet. Remember when he said this the movie was'nt even out yet.
When did Emma Thomas say this??

 

[M.O.Steel]

why do people keep refering to the script. the script changes all the time, even during the filming itself. sometimes, they even shoot the movie a little ambiguously even if it says what it says on paper.

 

[JTStarkiller]

I'm sure this has been mentioned, but I didn't want to search through 82 pages. If Two-Face is alive, wouldn't Gordon have noticed when the body wasn't there? I assumed he was dead.

 

[regwec]

Gordon and Batman are concerned with keeping alive the lie that Harvey Dent died before he became the murderous Two Face (that is not to say that Dent did not exist for some time as a disfigured innocent). If the prostrate Harvey managed to drag himself to his feet and stagger off, what would Gordon do? Shoot him? Wouldn't that complicate things an awful lot more?

I don't really know what the answer is here, but it is likely enough that Gordon would just have to hope that Two Face would never resurface.

 

[nogster]

the ending was the symbolic death of harvey dent...
but twoface lives on..

 

[Crook]

The only symbolism here is "the fall of Harvey Dent". I have no idea where some people are getting this extra "...but Two-Face lives to fight another day!" tidbit, when there are absolutely no indications of such in the film.

 

[nogster]

The only symbolism here is "the fall of Harvey Dent". I have no idea where some people are getting this extra "...but Two-Face lives to fight another day!" tidbit, when there are absolutely no indications of such in the film.

agreed..
but i just dont see two face being killed off after 1 film, he is a major batman villian, and remember the rumours, years ago, of this being a trilogy of nolan batfilms...where the groundwork was layed out with joker as the 2nd films major villian with the fall of harvey dent a major component, then twoface being the 3rd films major villian..
thats what i see happening..
it would be a fitting finale to the tale being told..

 

[regwec]

I don't think that there is any indication of that in this film, because a neat "." to Harvey Dent arc within the movie makes for a much stronger ending. But I think their are certain visual cues and hints which suggest that room was left, deliberately, for his re introduction in a new story, in another film.

 

[captain_jimbo]

I think it's purposely been left open, and I really hope he is alive.

 

[I Am The Knight]

He's pretty much dead according to the script, sadly.

 

[M.O.Steel]

I'm sure this has been mentioned, but I didn't want to search through 82 pages. If Two-Face is alive, wouldn't Gordon have noticed when the body wasn't there? I assumed he was dead.

the thoery is, if 2-face is alive, somehow gordon would be involved.

 

[Wolverine_05]

I guess people are just anxious about what they'll do in the next one. If Heath hadn't have died, then we'd all be ok that Harvey dies at the end of TDK because we still have the Joker. Because of Heath's passing I think people want one of the top villains like Two-Face to be involved in the next one because it's hard to picture a movie in Nolan's universe based on Riddler or Penguin and it's hard to imagine recasting the Joker.

Harvey is dead, he broke his neck and Gordon eulogized him at his funeral. Anything different than that would be a decision made outside of the original vision of the film.

 

[David Rice]

Did he write the script? Is he writing the next script? Actors say they would love to be in [insert movie] all the time

Thank you.

Hes saying that so he does not spoil the movie for anyone who has not seen it yet. Remember when he said this the movie was'nt even out yet.
When did Emma Thomas say this??

Thank you too!

David....



at this thread.

 

[infection form]

Two-Face is probably still alive, because if he is indeed dead then Batman is the direct killer because he pushed him out of the building.

I also think he's alive because he only fell from about two floors up like Maroni did. Although Two-Face did land on his back.

I hope he's still alive, but if he isn't in the next one I'm okay with that. I wasn't very fond of his scarring either. It was cool at first, but after seeing it 3 times, it just looks ridiculous in my opinion.

 

[Two_Face]

It looks ridiculous?

Dude, the scarring is the best look of Two-Face from any incarnation. I suppose you like this one better.

 

[infection form]

Oh dude, i agree that it was much better than tommy lee jones' makeup.

I just meant I like it, but I don't love it. Its just a little bit... extreme for being burned. I mean I know it was a movie, but the exposed bone and muscle was a bit much.

If they had done everything the same, but left the jawbone and teeth unexposed it would have been perfect.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Oh dude, i agree that it was much better than tommy lee jones' makeup.

I just meant I like it, but I don't love it. Its just a little bit... extreme for being burned. I mean I know it was a movie, but the exposed bone and muscle was a bit much.

If they had done everything the same, but left the jawbone and teeth unexposed it would have been perfect.

Spoiler

Remember his face was wet with gasoline now. So obviously gas mixing with the fire made his disfigurement that much worse. He refused pain medication and skin surgery, which would make his appearance look that much more extreme and disturbing.

 

[DorkyFresh]

i remember someone pointing out that the novel said Harvey's neck got broken in the fall. i saw the movie thrice (twice in IMAX) and made sure to look for any cues that he'd still be alive and i really couldn't find any. i'm actually upset that we probably won't see him in a third film if one ever gets made, but i'd like to think that Christopher Nolan isn't the type to renig on something that's so seemingly obvious.

imo, Harvey/Two Face is as dead as Ra's Al Ducard.