The FFINO ZONE - Part 1

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I always thought IM3 was heavily divided. People either loved it or hated it.
IME most of the people who hate it are a minority of fanboy/girls who hate the Mandarin angle. Me I just think it was a lazy stinker all around that squandered its potential-- and one that used too much comedy for my taste. Certainly an improvement over IM2 though. :cwink:
 
If Doom isn't Domashev anymore because Kinberg removed all of that, then that is disappointing. I was actually looking forward to him being a blogger with the online handle of D00M that he uses in chat rooms. They should've left this movie to be so bad it's not really very good.
Agreed. If you've already driven your car off of the bridge, why not step on the gas?
 
No matter how it turns out, they'll be better than anything Sony did in the past decade.
 
Pre-worst-twist-I've-ever-seen, the Mandarin was an AMAZING villain. I absolutely loved the scene where he had the president call him on live TV and he shot the hostage. Too bad they swapped him for another lame business man villain.

Mandarin is a, "lame business man villain." Killian was far closer to the comic version of Mandarin than Slattery was.

I feel like it was a commentary on the story within the story itself. Ben Kingsley isn't even Chinese, he's Indian. Killian being the REAL Mandarin was actually more accurate since Mandarin is half English and Guy Pearce is... AN ENGLISHMAN!

And technically Mandarin in the comics isn't even Chinese. His other half is Mongolian. He built up a lie for himself to invoke Chinese nationalism to help build his army since he wants to conquer China for its wealth and nuclear arsenal. Literally everything which non-comic fans associate with the character is a lie which he cultivates.

That's why I don't get the hate for IM3.

As for FF. I get the hate. After the final battle, all the character development is suddenly resolved with no questions asked. That's the same reason why critics hated Sucker Punch. It was a whole lot of build up to a final scene which leaves a horrible taste in your mouth.
 
There are so many things that are so WRONG in this story. Ben just willingly being used as a weapon for a year? And he never just crammed a tank up Elder/Allen's butt?

Once again, a romantic connection between Doom and Sue? Almost every sentence of every description of every scene got on my nerves.

Yeah, that part doesn't gel with me. Particularly since Ben could easily take whatever Uncle Sam throws at him. If feels like Fox didn't know what do when shooting the film or in the editing room
 
......blah blah Ben no drop?, blah blah mega flop, blah blah Torch too dark, blah blah too much snark, blah blah Sue's bad wig, blah blah Trank a pig, blah blah Bell to small, blah Ben too tall, blah blah army bad, blah blah purists sad, blah blah " no screen test?", blah blah " he friend best!", blah blah racist tweets, blah blah "they wear sheets", blah blah "I'm no fan, blah blah "you in the Klan", blah blah "how's he pee?", blah blah where's Stan Lee?, blah blah Kinberg's knife, blah blah backstage strife, blah blah pillar of light, blah blah "tacked on" fight, blah blah containment suit, blah blah another reboot?, blah blah Mile's girll hot!, blah blah his interviews NOT, blah blah DJs crude, blah blah Denny's food, blah blah "Invisible Sauce, blah blah financial loss, blah blah "poof goes tank", blah blah poof goes Trank, blah blah need No glasses, blah blah Catwoman passes!, blah blah "Fox go stick it !", blah blah "Buy Ant-Man ticket", blah "that's immoral", blah blah "let's not quarrel ", blah blah "are you done", blah blah "we've just begun"........
 
......blah blah Ben no drop?, blah blah mega flop, blah blah Torch too dark, blah blah too much snark, blah blah Sue's bad wig, blah blah Trank a pig, blah blah Bell to small, blah Ben too tall, blah blah army bad, blah blah purists sad, blah blah " no screen test?", blah blah " he friend best!", blah blah racist tweets, blah blah "they wear sheets", blah blah "I'm no fan, blah blah "you in the Klan", blah blah "how's he pee?", blah blah where's Stan Lee?, blah blah Kinberg's knife, blah blah backstage strife, blah blah pillar of light, blah blah "tacked on" fight, blah blah containment suit, blah blah another reboot?, blah blah Mile's girll hot!, blah blah his interviews NOT, blah blah DJs crude, blah blah Denny's food, blah blah "Invisible Sauce, blah blah financial loss, blah blah "poof goes tank", blah blah poof goes Trank, blah blah need No glasses, blah blah Catwoman passes!, blah blah "Fox go stick it !", blah blah "Buy Ant-Man ticket", blah "that's immoral", blah blah "let's not quarrel ", blah blah "are you done", blah blah "we've just begun"........

We got bigger problems with this movie. Like no Domashev
 
Fant4stic: The Domasev Cut....

"Includes 70 minutes of new footage."
"70 minutes? WTF? You mean 17"
"No 70!"
"Is it better?"
"It'll cost you $20 to find out."
"I'll pass."
"You'll buy it anyway."
"MBJ, is that you?"
 
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I just hope FOX doesn't play hardball with Marvel and just wait for the rights to revert back. I posted earlier that I'd like to see the F4 show up in Black Panther, like in the comic.
 
I just hope FOX doesn't play hardball with Marvel and just wait for the rights to revert back. I posted earlier that I'd like to see the F4 show up in Black Panther, like in the comic.

You can't play hardball with a Nerf. The people at FOX aren't morons. They know its way past the time to make a deal.
 
I am absolutely shocked that this film is apparently every bit as bad as I thought it was gonna be. Shocked I tell you. :o

I would not be legitimately surprised if Marvel got the rights back sometime in the next few years.
 
You can't play hardball with a Nerf. The people at FOX aren't morons. They know its way past the time to make a deal.

I hope so. But, I could see them making Marvel wait. We probably wouldn't see a Fantastic 4 MCU movie until 2020 at the earliest anyway. Also, I cannot believe they made them teenagers. I know it's typical for Hollywood to cast older, but they're all 28, 29 years old with Kate Mara being 32!
 
We have one more hurdle to clear---it has to flop this weekend.
Bad reviews and derision from loyal fans is one thing, but this has to flop bad in both NA and worldwide. If WE BO is under $30 mill that would be great.
I'm afraid that curious non fans will be looking for one last " big" summer movie and stumble into this disaster.
 
Just so crazy how they could finally get Deadpool right (at least from what we've seen so far) and still can't do justice by the F4.
 
I just hope FOX doesn't play hardball with Marvel and just wait for the rights to revert back. I posted earlier that I'd like to see the F4 show up in Black Panther, like in the comic.

Yeah, If they do get them back this century then I would let them out to play in increments.

A cameo here a feature there.

But a Silver Surfer film could hit the ground running.

And an Annihilation movie in the 4th Phase would be a dream come true. But I'm getting ahead of myself. Fox surely have a couple more FU's up their sleeves.
 
The trailer was awesome
I thought the trailer was okay. Personally I don't get the big woop about the project yet. Ryan Reyolds playing himself while wearing a mask and killing thugs just isn't as interesting to me as it is other people on the interwebs.
 
I thought the trailer was okay. Personally I don't get the big woop about the project yet. Ryan Reyolds playing himself while wearing a mask and killing thugs just isn't as interesting to me as it is other people on the interwebs.

Deadpool is an acquired taste for sure. But for fans of the character, it looks great.
 
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