The FFINO ZONE - Part 1

[Dark Raven]

UFFINO = Unfortunately Fantastic Four In Name Only

 

[Quasar]

1 week till Turdville!

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

1 week till Turdville!

Thank goodness! I've gotten to the point I just want to get this over with.

 

[Docker2.0]

Thank goodness! I've gotten to the point I just want to get this over with.

Nah man! The real show starts opening night in the USA.

 

[Joe Rockhead]

I see that Bleeding Cool is now hedging their bets on the success of the movie.

 

[Dark Raven]

1 week till Turdville!

That's what those who are constipated usually say when sitting on the toilet.

This can probably help:

 

[Eddie]

I see that Bleeding Cool is now hedging their bets on the success of the movie.

$$$

 

[Docker2.0]

I see that Bleeding Cool is now hedging their bets on the success of the movie.

What are they saying? I'm at work now so I can't go to that site.

 

[wobbly]

What are they saying? I'm at work now so I can't go to that site.

From Rich Johnston himself:

I have a press ticket to see The Fantastic Four on Wednesday next week, the day before release.

This website has, over the least year or so reported a number of rather negative reports regarding the film. We were the ones that told you that Fox approached other writers and directors with the aim of junking the Josh Trank Fantastic Four and redoing it from scratch in six months. Those approached said no, and the plan was abandoned. While denied by Fox, it was confirmed to Bleeding Cool by by those close to those who had been approached.


We also reported industry sources who told us that Fox believed the film was “a mess”. And then there were the reshoots, Bleeding Cool reported extensive filming, again officially denied as anything more than a few days by Fox, but were instead many weeks in Eastern Europe.
There were also what appeared to be planted leaks against director Josh Trank amongst certain aspects of the media, regarding antics on set and what happened with Trank’s dogs to the house he studio rented for him. It felt like a plan of attack.

And now we have a press previews and embargoes very close to release. Ant-Man had two weeks before release. This has led to institutions like the Guardian writing little more than an attack piece.
What I’m hearing is that some at Fox simply don’t realise what they have on their hands. That there is division within the studio between those who are massively in favour of the film and those who are increasingly worried. And so the plan is to push promotion and a trailer that even the haters agree to a great one and use the momentum to push the audience in for a strong opening weekend, but it is countered by those who wouldn’t allow no previews of the film, and who believe that audience response outside of the Fox Studio bubble to the innate quality of the movie will guarantee the success of this film, and justify its planned sequel and then some.

It is important at this point to recollect William Goldman‘s line that “Nobody knows anything…… Not one person in the entire motion picture field knows for a certainty what’s going to work. Every time out it’s a guess and, if you’re lucky, an educated one.”

Some films that had the most disruptive shoots, from bust-ups to resignations to reshoots, have given us classics, from Jaws to Superman to Apocalypse Now, the granddaddy of all messy shoots. Even World War Z was alright….

I’m very much looking forward to the film and have been given every reason to do so by those I trust.

But if I really wanted to be sure, I’d be taking the Eurostar to Paris, where the film opens in English the previous night… anyone fancy it?

Quite the turnaround from Rich...

 

[Eddie]

Not as big a turnaround as Jeff Sneider's weird supportive tweets about Trank recently after previously talking about Josh Trank physically threatening him.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

From Rich Johnston himself:
Quite the turnaround from Rich...

This actually echoes what I've been saying for a while and makes complete sense.

There are two very polar factions at Fox: One faction has been pushing for this from the start, and because of that, they want it to get as much marketing as possible so they can be proven right.

The other faction never wanted to do it, wanted to fire Trank and have been trying to scuttle this from the start.

I find this quote interesting:

"a trailer that even the haters agree to a great one"

Well, they never gave us that trailer.

It also explains that while this is a film about puberty they gave us trailers that look more like Marvel films. They thought that would shut us up and that we'd "see it anyway".

I don't have a problem with what the article says, but it doesn't say anything we don't already know or suspect and it doesn't change anything my "lying eyes" have seen.

 

[Krystal]

Just don't expect a superhero movie----"positive" tweet from this movie.

 

[Farren]

I see that Bleeding Cool is now hedging their bets on the success of the movie.

Wow yeah definitely.

 

[marvelmadness13]

Just don't expect a superhero movie----"positive" tweet from this movie.

Just as expected. Do you have a link to this?

 

[Docker2.0]

This actually echoes what I've been saying for a while and makes complete sense.

There are two very polar factions at Fox: One faction has been pushing for this from the start, and because of that, they want it to get as much marketing as possible so they can be proven right.

The other faction never wanted to do it, wanted to fire Trank and have been trying to scuttle this from the start.

I find this quote interesting:

"a trailer that even the haters agree to a great one"

Well, they never gave us that trailer.

It also explains that while this is a film about puberty they gave us trailers that look more like Marvel films. They thought that would shut us up and that we'd "see it anyway".

I don't have a problem with what the article says, but it doesn't say anything we don't already know or suspect and it doesn't change anything my "lying eyes" have seen.

I'm not going to lie, when I first saw the first trailer, I thought it might end up being a decent movie. But as time went on and they showed more and more footage(I know, there is only like 3 scenes they really showed)the worse the film looked. They didn't do themselves and favors at all.

 

[Krystal]

Just as expected. Do you have a link to this?

From the Reborn thread where everybody thinks they just won the lottery.
Joy about a movie being called good just not " a superhero movie"--- at a site called, um, what's the name of this website?

 

[starscream22]

If I was a fan of UFF, I'd be PISSED that there were so few real similarities with UFF. This if UFFINO as clearly as it's FFINO.

Fox just counts on the fact that there are almost no real fans of UFF.

Yeah, saying this is based on UFF is supporters way of dismissing the lack of source material. Which is laughable since most of them don't know a thing about UFF. Its just "Shut up and go spend your money!"

 

[RAE072]

From Rich Johnston himself:
Quite the turnaround from Rich...

Oh man they were probably offered so many FOX movie scoops if they turned around on this one.

Jesus. It's so blatantly obvious too. They didn't have a change of heart, nor did the footage that's looked exactly the same from the first trailer to the last tv spot sway them.

FOX told them "hey, if you want to have any kind of amicable relationship with us in the future, here's what you gotta say about this movie."

 

[Quasar]

I think Trank and Kinberg were on the right track by making the characters more interesting, i.e. Ben being a tiny guy and abused by his brothers, and Sue being a war orphan, but personally I don't think they went far enough. They could have made them all so much more interesting. Check this out:

Ben is a quadruple amputee, and not only is he abused by his brothers, they treat him like a ball when they play sports. Ben gains the ability to house himself in a rocky body with arms and legs that he can control.

Reed also is a quadruple amputee. After gaining his powers, he is able to stretch his shoulders and hips into actual arms and legs in order to function as fully healed adult.

Johnny is, you guessed it, also a quadruple amputee. After gaining his powers, he's able to make arms and legs out of solid fire.

Sue is still just a war orphan, but after gaining her powers (via osmosis), she makes her arms and legs invisible so as not to stand out from the other 3 when they're not using their powers.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think it's stupid to see anyone hedge their bets about this film.

If it's a good film, fine we were all wrong and it was a good film. But lets not ignore that Fox is not treating this film like it is a good film, the trailers are poor and the reviews are going to come out super late. If this is a good film Fox needs to fire everyone in their marketing department and allow reviews to be released earlier.

So Bleeding Cool and whoever else can hedge them bets but I am not. I think it looks and sounds like a bad film and I think holding back reviews makes me believe that it is a bad film. 99% of the time when a film looks bad and holds back reviews it is a bad film.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I think Trank and Kinberg were on the right track by making the characters more interesting, i.e. Ben being a tiny guy and abused by his brothers, and Sue being a war orphan, but personally I don't think they went far enough. They could have made them all so much more interesting. Check this out:

Ben is a quadruple amputee, and not only is he abused by his brothers, they treat him like a ball when they play sports. Ben gains the ability to house himself in a rocky body with arms and legs that he can control.

Reed also is a quadruple amputee. After gaining his powers, he is able to stretch his shoulders and hips into actual arms and legs in order to function as fully healed adult.

Johnny is, you guessed it, also a quadruple amputee. After gaining his powers, he's able to make arms and legs out of solid fire.

Sue is still just a war orphan, but after gaining her powers (via osmosis), she makes her arms and legs invisible so as not to stand out from the other 3 when they're not using their powers.

You just outKinberged Kinberg.

And this is a nice illustration. It's easy to make characters more "interesting". Creating characters that can last for 50 years is a lot more difficult and Trank and Kinberg should have more respect for that concept.

 

[Mr. Youtube]

This thread is hilarious, I'd love it if Marvel got the rights back but decided to make a Fantastic Four movie not set in the MCU. Oh, and then they make Reed an impoverished Fillipino, Ben an Israeli immigrant, both Johnny and Sue black this time and get Tom Cruise to play Dr. Doom just cause.

Or not, but I'd find it hilarious if they did.

 

[Brian Braddock]

^^^^^Why hello Mr Trank; welcome to the SHH.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I think it's stupid to see anyone hedge their bets about this film.

If it's a good film, fine we were all wrong and it was a good film. But lets not ignore that Fox is not treating this film like it is a good film, the trailers are poor and the reviews are going to come out super late. If this is a good film Fox needs to fire everyone in their marketing department and allow reviews to be released earlier.

So Bleeding Cool and whoever else can hedge them bets but I am not. I think it looks and sounds like a bad film and I think holding back reviews makes me believe that it is a bad film. 99% of the time a film looks bad and holds back reviews it is a bad film.

I could be wrong. I admit that. I'm not psychic or from the future. But everything I've seen so far points to it being terrible. As you say, if this is good then Fox completely blew their marketing of the film.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think Trank and Kinberg were on the right track by making the characters more interesting, i.e. Ben being a tiny guy and abused by his brothers, and Sue being a war orphan, but personally I don't think they went far enough. They could have made them all so much more interesting. Check this out:

Ben is a quadruple amputee, and not only is he abused by his brothers, they treat him like a ball when they play sports. Ben gains the ability to house himself in a rocky body with arms and legs that he can control.

Reed also is a quadruple amputee. After gaining his powers, he is able to stretch his shoulders and hips into actual arms and legs in order to function as fully healed adult.

Johnny is, you guessed it, also a quadruple amputee. After gaining his powers, he's able to make arms and legs out of solid fire.

Sue is still just a war orphan, but after gaining her powers (via osmosis), she makes her arms and legs invisible so as not to stand out from the other 3 when they're not using their powers.

Ben, being Jewish, could be the victim of a circumcision gone wrong and more was cut off than planned.