The Flash The Flash Episode 1x15 - Out of Time

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I love they have such a good handle on the CG now. No more goofy slo-mo shots of a completely CG Flash (in this episode at least)

 

[Supernova]

Can someone tell me the name of the song during the bowling scene?

Blame it on the night, listed itunes in top section

 

[Supernova]

I love they have such a good handle on the CG now. No more goofy slo-mo shots of a completely CG Flash (in this episode at least)

Cgi looks great and probably having this last big break helped th have more time to work on the shots. The tidal wave was movie quality effects in you ask me.

 

[PacificBoy]

That lightning strike was gorgeous.

 

[XDream]

I watched the episode and was pretty impressed overall. I felt the story was interesting and did like the little things they did with Barry and Iris.

I wanted to just give my input on Iris/Barry for a moment.

I do not know if this was said before but maybe the reason this is so screwed up is because of both their immaturity with relationships. I think we all at that age (early-mid 20s) made a bunch of mistakes and stupid decisions. I think the idea that Iris pushed Barry away but yet always kept him close was interesting and was very real in life. Sometimes your best friend is the person you want to be with all along (happened to me actually ha).

That being said I do get everyone's view on it. I had the same view but, in thinking about it, all of us had made those same type of decisions (granted I do not watch Arrow cause I am not into the character and how he is presented vs his comic counterpart who I do enjoy). Maybe if we think of it that way it makes more sense.

Another thing I saw people harping about was Joe's decision to go after WW. I wanted to state that maybe he was not thinking clearly and just thought he could handle it himself. Even beyond that I just think anyone seeing that would be very pissed and do stupid crap.

Maybe I love the show too much to realize this MAY not be the best way to do it but IDK I just thought about it on the way to work.

 

[kguillou]

Wow this episode was just gaaaahhhhhh!
10/10 for me. The Flash continues to be one of the best shows on tv for me.

BUT i must admit I do echo other people's concerns about time travel. Im very iffy with time travel in general, it damn near almost ruined Superman:The Movie for me because it rendered the last half of that movie obsolete. So, I'm hoping the writers dont use it as a cheat and that the big moments that occurred in this episode have a payoff.

 

[Herolee10]

I think when it comes to time travel, just as long as they establish to both Barry and the audience that it's not something that Barry should resort to, let alone have complete control/access to, then it should be fine.

It seems like Barry's unintended time traveling will have repercussions, which already separates it from the like of what "Superman: The Movie" did where there was no consequences to Superman going back in time to save Lois (personally I feel like Zod and his minions being released from the PZ should have been it.lol)

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Wow great episode, I was concerned when I heard time travel would happen on so early on, and really that has been my concern throughout the entire series that some stuff seems to be being rushed, what the hell is going to be going on in season 3 and beyond, but that was a great way for it to happen.

Definitely one powerful kiss from Iris, for Barry to have gone from like 800mph to going back in time.

 

[Sorath]

Such a great episode. I love the scene with Cisco and Wells was best scene in this episode. See Cisco being killed by wells was gut wrenching and left me stunned even though I knew he wouldn't stay dead. Such a great episode.

Wow this episode was just gaaaahhhhhh!
10/10 for me. The Flash continues to be one of the best shows on tv for me.

BUT i must admit I do echo other people's concerns about time travel. Im very iffy with time travel in general, it damn near almost ruined Superman:The Movie for me because it rendered the last half of that movie obsolete. So, I'm hoping the writers dony use it as a cheat and that the moments that occurred in this episode have a payoff.

I don't think they will over use it if that's what you mean. Keep in mind that in comics there are some major story arch that revovle around Berry Allen and time Travel. One of those story arch is Flashpoint.

As for the pay off we got that all ready. The first was the relationship between Iris and Berry. By the end of the episode Berry knows Iris true feelings for him. Now he has to decided to whether to act on them or not.

Second he now knows there is evidence about Wells that could prove that he isn't up to any good.

Then there Wells him self. We now know he is related to Eddie. We also know that he intended to kill Berry and didn't mean to kill his mother.

The last bit is that Berry has traveled through time. He now knows he can do it and can reduplicate the process only he can't control it at the moment. There going to have fun with that for a while. I think Berry going to try and reduplicate the process but fail. However will have to see.

Any I don't think they will over use Time travel in the series they will save them for the right moment. However as I pointed out there are some major story arch in the comic that revolve around him traveling through time. I am sure they are going to explore the up and downs to his ability to do so.

 

[Rocketman]

I think Arrow really needs to step up its game next season. It's a great show but it's being completely blown out of the water by The Flash. And I think it starts with no more dark, brooding Oliver. That needs to be a lighthearted show where we literally have Green Arrow.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Damn that was a phenomenal episode! So many bad ass moments, really love this show. It's def one of the best shows on tv right now

 

[Ghostcrow13]

I think Arrow really needs to step up its game next season. It's a great show but it's being completely blown out of the water by The Flash. And I think it starts with no more dark, brooding Oliver. That needs to be a lighthearted show where we literally have Green Arrow.

If they do Flashpoint, the reboot could have much the same storylines but slightly change the origins which gives a lighter Green Arrow.

 

[Loki882]

is called idol worship Never heard of it

No it's called bad writing.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

What happens to Iris and Eddie next?
The idea of Wells wanting to make the Flash so he is able to travel back to his time is stupid. Why exactly does he want to kill child Barry?

 

[roach]

What happens to Iris and Eddie next?
The idea of Wells wanting to make the Flash so he is able to travel back to his time is stupid. Why exactly does he want to kill child Barry?

Not really. He wants to kill Barry because he and his descendants are his nemesis...however he didn't realize that the speed force that he (Thrawn) taps into is generated by Allen. With no speedforce to tap into...he's normal.

 

[DCMarvelFanGuy]

Same.

I think everybody knows how I feel about the series by now, though, so I try not to articulate those feelings too often. I never want to be "that guy".



I didn't think either character came off as particularly likable. They both behaved inappropriately at the bowling alley and then straight up cheated on their significant others when they should've been trying to rescue Joe.

On a related note: Gustin and Patton have no romantic chemistry whatsoever. Watching them kiss is like watching paint dry.

And finally: did anyone else think it was weird that whoever wrote the episode decided to point out (more than once) that Barry and Iris are basically brother and sister? Their situation/history never bothered me until today.



The Weather Wizard was a pretty decent villain up until he tried to destroy the city (even while he was still, you know, in it). He had no legitimate motivation to do it.

The Thawne/Cisco scene was only as good as it was because of Cavanagh. I like Valdes as much as the next guy, but he certainly wasn't hired for his dramatic acting.

Weather Wizard wasn't trying to destroy the city. Just the park so he can nail Barry, Iris, Joe and himself in one swoop. Yes, he did want to kill himself. Before summoning the tsunami, when Joe pleaded not to kill Iris. Mark said: "She will pay for the sins of the father! I'll pay..." Implying he blames himself for not being there for Clyde as well. That's one thing I was hoping they would touch on that hopefully they will expand on more in the future. In the comics Weather Wizard blames the Flash for his brother's death, but he still blames himself mostly.

 

[roach]

No it's called bad writing.

Why would anyone suspect Wells of being the Reverse Flash?

 

[chamber-music]

I'm amazed at what great stuff they have done in only 15 episodes. They have managed to fit more mythology and characters development into 15 episodes then I've seen some shows fit into an entire series.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm amazed at what great stuff they have done in only 15 episodes. They have managed to fit more mythology and characters development into 15 episodes then I've seen some shows fit into an entire series.

Could be because Barry Allen is Geoff Johns favorite superhero.

 

[Cain]

The last 20 minutes were flipping phenomenal. Everything I expected and more.

 

[roach]

A theory: The Flash CW show has been showing us a rebooted timeline. The original timeline matches the comics. Barry Allen, a CSI, is struck by lightning and becomes The Flash. He fights villains...marries Iris...all the comic stuff happened.
Then in the future Eobard goes back in time to kill Barry but kills his mom instead. This creates a divergent timeline. Barry's dad is blamed and put in jail...Barry moves in with Joe and him and Iris become like brother and sister...Eobard is stuck in the past and needs Barry to become the Flash to generate the speed force...so he creates the particle accelerator and triggers the accident that created The Flash earlier than it was supposed to.

just my thoughts...

 

[Crimz]

This episode and the next are very crucial to show how time travel works in this universe. So when Barry eventually tries to save his mother, we know that things might not go the way he wants it.
I gave this episode an 8, a couple things dragged it down for me, but it was still great.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

A theory: The Flash CW show has been showing us a rebooted timeline. The original timeline matches the comics. Barry Allen, a CSI, is struck by lightning and becomes The Flash. He fights villains...marries Iris...all the comic stuff happened.
Then in the future Eobard goes back in time to kill Barry but kills his mom instead. This creates a divergent timeline. Barry's dad is blamed and put in jail...Barry moves in with Joe and him and Iris become like brother and sister...Eobard is stuck in the past and needs Barry to become the Flash to generate the speed force...so he creates the particle accelerator and triggers the accident that created The Flash earlier than it was supposed to.

just my thoughts...

Well for sure we must be watching an alternate timeline, because Eobard has disturbed it.

I'm not sure why he'd originally want to kill Barry but I'm sure we'll find out.

 

[TeeKay]

So Barry will undo the things that happened in this episode yeah? Coz from the promo of the next episode it seems like it.

 

[SpideyVille]

Well for sure we must be watching an alternate timeline, because Eobard has disturbed it.

I'm not sure why he'd originally want to kill Barry but I'm sure we'll find out.

I feel like the biggest deviation for the comics is that Wells didn't kill to make Barry suffer. I think he wanted to kill Barry but saw that it would hurt his chances of returning back home.

Maybe, since this is a CW show, there was a fallout between the Thawne family and the Allen family, and it started with Eddie losing Iris to Barry, and that spiraled to a long list of tragedies and mishaps for the Thawne lineage, so Eobard finds a way to go back to kill Barry, only to discover that it messed things up even more, so he leaves it alone but is stuck here and realizes he needs Barry to get back home.

I'm just grasping at straws here, but I'm curious to see why Flash's disappearance in 2025 is so important too.