The "I am SO SICK of all this talk about recasts/reboots/revamps/re-whatever!" thread

[Sawyer]

And I actually like the FF movies. I found them much more enjoyable than the comics, which I just could never get into.

I dont know. I liked the F4's suits and Chiklis as The Thing, but everything else ranges from underwhelming to awful. A reboot isnt completely necessary, but a new director could do wonders. And recast Doom and Sue, of course.

 

[[A]]

I liked the F4's suits and Chiklis as The Thing, but everything else ranges from underwhelming to awful. A reboot isnt completely necessary, but a new director could do wonders. And recast Doom and Sue, of course.

I agree 110% with your post.

 

[Chris Wallace]

To each his own.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Never seen any of the FF movies. I don't plan to. Though I did catch some of the beginning. Damn, was it bad.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I still got more enjoyment out of them than out of the comics.

 

[Chewy]

From the studio minds only Casino Royale was the successful reboot. Batman Begins made the same as Batman & Robin when you take inflation into account, The Dark Knight is a sequel not a reboot (And the tragic circumstances behind that make it impossible to measure it accurately). Incredible Hulk bombed, supposedly.

Ugh.

I'm reading through the thread and there's a lot of good discussion, and then I come across this gem.


And an aside: If you want to take inflation into account for Batman & Robin's ticket sales, its budget skyrockets, too.

 

[myway]

I want to begin by giving credit to the OP for an insightful thread. I couldn't agree more that fans in particular are way to caught up with the idea of rebooting a franchise everytime it's not perfect. Nothing is perfect, movies included. I think the internet is a great way for us fans to tell the powers that be what we want in a movie but now micro-managing has come into vogue. SR is a great example of fans throwing the baby out with the bathwater. SR lacked action so now fans are inventing a multitude of gripes with the movie to justify scrapping it, ala Richard. The fact that Lois has moved on can now make room for Superman to at least entertain the idea of other women like Lana. Fanboys point to the supposedly perfect BB as an example of how great reboots can be but forget that B'89 came out 15 years before BB and the origin had never really been told. Not to mention, the Batman franchise had suffered BF and B&R, two movies which were way more off the mark than SR. Thankfully, Marvel went requel with TIH and are going requel with The Punisher so it looks like despite fanboy best efforts, full-on reboots are not going to all the rage.

 

[dude stannis]

Ugh.

I'm reading through the thread and there's a lot of good discussion, and then I come across this gem.

What do you call $260 million on a $150 million dollar budget?

And an aside: If you want to take inflation into account for Batman & Robin's ticket sales, its budget skyrockets, too.

So? Ticket sales remain similar regardless of how much it cost.

 

[cerealkiller182]

What do you call $260 million on a $150 million dollar budget?

$110 million profit. Not Spiderman numbers but still profitable

 

[BlackLantern]

I dont know. I liked the F4's suits and Chiklis as The Thing, but everything else ranges from underwhelming to awful. A reboot isnt completely necessary, but a new director could do wonders. And recast Doom and Sue, of course.

Can we just throw Alba down a well so she never sullies another movie ever again?

 

[Sawyer]

$110 million profit. Not Spiderman numbers but still profitable

Yeah. I'm sorry, but anyone who considers TIH a bomb is a fool. At worst, it is a moderate success.

 

[Chewy]

So? Ticket sales remain similar regardless of how much it cost.

If you adjust for inflation it made around $40 million less than BB and cost more. If you don't adjust for inflation if made around $140 million less than BB and cost less. Either way, it wasn't as successful as BB.

 

[[A]]

Can we just throw Alba down a well so she never sullies another movie ever again?

I'll help ya gettin' it done.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah, Hulk made more than it's budget. Successful. And the studio said they were happy with it. But if they're gonna movie forward with a sequel, put Hulk in The Avenger (I'm sure it will) films first. It that films makes alot, get his sequel back.

 

[skorponok]

Yeah. I'm sorry, but anyone who considers TIH a bomb is a fool. At worst, it is a moderate success.

Actually it's turning out to be quite a success with the DVD sales - and don't forget TV rights, etc...

So many people forget that films are INVESTMENTS by the studio and just because it doesn't do giant numbers during the bloated opening weekend does not deem it a failure.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I think part of the problem is, when you got a movie like "Dark Knight" being released 2 weeks later & setting record numbers, it's easy to consider anything short of that a failure.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I think part of the problem is, when you got a movie like "Dark Knight" being released 2 weeks later & setting record numbers, it's easy to consider anything short of that a failure.

Yeah. By the way, how much did Hellboy II make. God, what a terrible release date. In between Hancock and Batman?! Even in some interviews Del Toro joked about that.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Didn't help that the movie paled in comparison to both. (IMO)

 

[BlackLantern]

'Starship Troopers' became a very profitable movie once it hit the home video market...

 

[Chris Wallace]

Which may be why its sequels skipped straight to the same.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Didn't help that the movie paled in comparison to both. (IMO)

I didn't see Hancock. But I think Hellboy II was probably alot better. Even though I love Will Smith, it looked like a poor man's version of a superhero. Though I like the idea, it looked like it could of been executed alot better.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I didn't see Hancock. But I think Hellboy II was probably alot better. Even though I love Will Smith, it looked like a poor man's version of a superhero. Though I like the idea, it looked like it could of been executed alot better.

Agreed

 

[Chris Wallace]

I hated Hellboy II, & I enjoyed Hancock. So maybe I'm the wrong person to ask.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I didnt hate Hancock. For all the good it had I couldnt help but think it could have been better.

 

[Spider-Fan]

FF needs a reboot IMO. Dr. Doom was messed up just so badly!!!

I want to see the real Doom on screen.