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Not that I believe that rumour, but there's no way he WOULDN'T consult Edgar Wright. Marvel are monitoring ALL films for continuity.
^^ not sure how to put the actual video in here haha
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Hi I am obviously new here, but isn't it easy to tell if LokiD has a source or not? I read a few of his posts about the Avengers back when speculation was running rampant, and the vast majority of what he wrote was wrong. For example:
"I did a lot of digging on other boards, reading interviews and trying to piece things together over the last year or so and in the most plausible scenario, it would seem we're in for at least one intense battle against the mind controlled Hulk early in the movie to get him back in line, with Thor being the heavy hitter to neutralize him. Many sites list Loki (or the actor that plays him) as part of the cast, so it has been suggested that he will play into the film possibly interacting with the skull in a more supervisory/evil emperor type situation. However, apart from the rumblings of the skrulls playing an eerie clandestine role, there are also the more realistic sounding rumors that predict the resurgence of Hydra with Baron Zemo and The Red Skull making it to the modern age... possibly in a different way than the comics. Different from just getting frozen in the aircraft carrier."
"They might alter a few things in the mandarin origin for movie purposes but this is the way I see it going:
We'll see them take on a giant DRAGON, or serpent-like leviathan, that Loki summons along with the other gangsters of the 9 realms. However, this thing may be originally from the Midgard realm(perhaps dwelling under Earth's ocean prior to being summoned). It would be an extraordinary battle, and a highlight of the film. Only this thing doesn't follow Loki entirely and escapes to Asia in the middle of the invasion, after Iron Man and Thor force it to flee, where it returns to it's dormant state in some isolated ruins for a few years...
Earlier in filming there were reports of scenes involving giant fireballs above the street. And we know they wanted to use Mandarin in Iron Man 3, so as soon as I heard more about this "Leviathan", and added it to the stuff about giant monsters, magic, gangsters from across the realms, and rumors of aliens it started to make more sense that things could potentially end up this way. It's recognizable enough that it could be one of the rumored small, disparate team of alien invaders. I think they'll have Iron Man chase the thing off though, setting us up for its return alongside the Mandarin in Iron Man 3(I envision War Machine being the one to defeat it). The fact that it's a magical/alien dragon (even if he's from Maklu 4) leftover from Loki's attack will probably be how Mandarin gets his rings, because it may be difficult to make that aspect work well without maybe exposing us to the giant alien dragon while they have the chance.
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Edit: If the invaders are mainly Asgardian, as some have suggested, then I really do see the possibility of Fin Fang Foom being called the Midgard serpent in the movies. But maybe the dragon race's planet is one Loki contacts that happens to be in the realm of Midgard(universe, or galaxy or we). I definitely think it's what the crane was used for now."
"I'm thinking it is that Loki gathers forces from a few realms, like a couple posters have already said, after he deceives shield or whoever. Anyone hear about the giant fireball filmed in the sky? I can't find a link that's not CBM...but some of this sounds like magic and then the tech we've seen seems like Kree or Skrull weaponry but could easily be some other realm's technology and magic, tieing into all the talk about chariots, superscience and also giant monsters.
It would make sense that Loki does summon characters or monsters known to the Asgardians. What if Loki works with/manipulates a few other known cosmic characters, and summons some of the monsters from Norse mythology to help them out.
What if one of the giant monsters that was mentioned is Fin Fang Foom, doubling as the Midgard Serpent for film purposes? It's happened in the comics, and he's an alien dragon, and not necessarily mindless (because of their race's abilities and technology). It would be very entertaining seeing Iron Man and Thor try to take that thing on mid-flight. Or hulk battling it somehow. Plus I think they could alter things a little so that it escapes and sets up Mandarin's powers in Iron Man 3. Also might make the other invading characters not trust Loki when Fin Fang Foom turns out to be sentient and carrying powerful gems."
"In all likelihood it's the Midgard Serpent. CBM just gets worked up too fast. It's most fitting and would be easy to work in, and I think the Cap stuff shows they've planned it that way. I'm just thinking ahead and looking at the big picture. They'll probably even call it the Midgard serpent as well as Leviathan. However I wouldn't discount that it could potentially become involved with the Mandarin plot in some way. With Iron Man 3 gearing up I can't help but think they've got something up their sleeve to give us a really faithful and awesome Mandarin story that involves a shape-shifting dragon. And because he's a damn shapeshifter I think something funny could be going on here after the serpent's defeated in Avengers.
If they've got a reveal planned where it's shown to be barely alive, and suddenly starts to speak to someone telepathically(getting around how funny it would be to see the mouth move) that would show us that this is more than the mindless creature we thought we watched the Avengers take down. It retreats to a remote cave system where it's found by that ten rings guy from the first Iron Man. In the post-credits scene or the beginning of Iron Man 3.
If they wanna acquaint Mandarin with an alien dragon then this could be how it all starts since everything is interconnected in this movie universe."
And so on...
Loki has never claimed to know everything. Just small pieces that he tries to fit together. I don't think that proves anything. But hey, welcome to the hypeHi I am obviously new here, but isn't it easy to tell if LokiD has a source or not? I read a few of his posts about the Avengers back when speculation was running rampant, and the vast majority of what he wrote was wrong. For example:
"I did a lot of digging on other boards, reading interviews and trying to piece things together over the last year or so and in the most plausible scenario, it would seem we're in for at least one intense battle against the mind controlled Hulk early in the movie to get him back in line, with Thor being the heavy hitter to neutralize him. Many sites list Loki (or the actor that plays him) as part of the cast, so it has been suggested that he will play into the film possibly interacting with the skull in a more supervisory/evil emperor type situation. However, apart from the rumblings of the skrulls playing an eerie clandestine role, there are also the more realistic sounding rumors that predict the resurgence of Hydra with Baron Zemo and The Red Skull making it to the modern age... possibly in a different way than the comics. Different from just getting frozen in the aircraft carrier."
"They might alter a few things in the mandarin origin for movie purposes but this is the way I see it going:
We'll see them take on a giant DRAGON, or serpent-like leviathan, that Loki summons along with the other gangsters of the 9 realms. However, this thing may be originally from the Midgard realm(perhaps dwelling under Earth's ocean prior to being summoned). It would be an extraordinary battle, and a highlight of the film. Only this thing doesn't follow Loki entirely and escapes to Asia in the middle of the invasion, after Iron Man and Thor force it to flee, where it returns to it's dormant state in some isolated ruins for a few years...
Earlier in filming there were reports of scenes involving giant fireballs above the street. And we know they wanted to use Mandarin in Iron Man 3, so as soon as I heard more about this "Leviathan", and added it to the stuff about giant monsters, magic, gangsters from across the realms, and rumors of aliens it started to make more sense that things could potentially end up this way. It's recognizable enough that it could be one of the rumored small, disparate team of alien invaders. I think they'll have Iron Man chase the thing off though, setting us up for its return alongside the Mandarin in Iron Man 3(I envision War Machine being the one to defeat it). The fact that it's a magical/alien dragon (even if he's from Maklu 4) leftover from Loki's attack will probably be how Mandarin gets his rings, because it may be difficult to make that aspect work well without maybe exposing us to the giant alien dragon while they have the chance.
AND
Edit: If the invaders are mainly Asgardian, as some have suggested, then I really do see the possibility of Fin Fang Foom being called the Midgard serpent in the movies. But maybe the dragon race's planet is one Loki contacts that happens to be in the realm of Midgard(universe, or galaxy or we). I definitely think it's what the crane was used for now."
"I'm thinking it is that Loki gathers forces from a few realms, like a couple posters have already said, after he deceives shield or whoever. Anyone hear about the giant fireball filmed in the sky? I can't find a link that's not CBM...but some of this sounds like magic and then the tech we've seen seems like Kree or Skrull weaponry but could easily be some other realm's technology and magic, tieing into all the talk about chariots, superscience and also giant monsters.
It would make sense that Loki does summon characters or monsters known to the Asgardians. What if Loki works with/manipulates a few other known cosmic characters, and summons some of the monsters from Norse mythology to help them out.
What if one of the giant monsters that was mentioned is Fin Fang Foom, doubling as the Midgard Serpent for film purposes? It's happened in the comics, and he's an alien dragon, and not necessarily mindless (because of their race's abilities and technology). It would be very entertaining seeing Iron Man and Thor try to take that thing on mid-flight. Or hulk battling it somehow. Plus I think they could alter things a little so that it escapes and sets up Mandarin's powers in Iron Man 3. Also might make the other invading characters not trust Loki when Fin Fang Foom turns out to be sentient and carrying powerful gems."
"In all likelihood it's the Midgard Serpent. CBM just gets worked up too fast. It's most fitting and would be easy to work in, and I think the Cap stuff shows they've planned it that way. I'm just thinking ahead and looking at the big picture. They'll probably even call it the Midgard serpent as well as Leviathan. However I wouldn't discount that it could potentially become involved with the Mandarin plot in some way. With Iron Man 3 gearing up I can't help but think they've got something up their sleeve to give us a really faithful and awesome Mandarin story that involves a shape-shifting dragon. And because he's a damn shapeshifter I think something funny could be going on here after the serpent's defeated in Avengers.
If they've got a reveal planned where it's shown to be barely alive, and suddenly starts to speak to someone telepathically(getting around how funny it would be to see the mouth move) that would show us that this is more than the mindless creature we thought we watched the Avengers take down. It retreats to a remote cave system where it's found by that ten rings guy from the first Iron Man. In the post-credits scene or the beginning of Iron Man 3.
If they wanna acquaint Mandarin with an alien dragon then this could be how it all starts since everything is interconnected in this movie universe."
And so on...
So it's kind of like the logic behind a million monkeys writing at a million typewriters for an infinite amount of time; eventually they will have written the complete works of shakespeare.
In other words, LokiD's long posts are bound to have some small amount of accuracy, probability-wise. Write about something for long enough and eventually you will come up with something somewhat accurate.
Sounds like the ying to Roger Wardell's yang. Not sure if I buy it.
Would it still be an insult to Edgar if he and loss had actually planned that all out together? Because realistically.... That'd actually be the case if this were true.
cherokeesam said:As long as Wright was consulted, and the Wasp theory dovetailed in with what he plans to do with Hank and Janet in *his* movie, then yeah, I've got less of a problem with it.
I just don't see where there would've been much time or opportunity for a sit-down over this in 2012, with Wright in England filming World's End, and Black filming IM3 in the US, China and India.
Any official word on whether Tony's new armour is the Mk 47 or Mark 42? I've heard both numbers being reported.
I think it's 47 with 40 remote controlled or something along those lines. Not 100% sure tho
Ah but it's fun t:Nope, never.
Well Wasp or no wasp, whatever each film is doing, there will be extensive communication and collaberation between all the directors, just like there was for Phase 1. That's how they co-ordinate all the end of film scenes and continuity stuff... In fact, I believe Brian Michael Bendis is serving as a consultant between all the films, helping to make sure there are no clashes and whatnot.
So whatever happens, I dont think we need to worry about someone like Shane Black slipping a reference in there that Marvel wouldn't know about.
Also, I don't think it's farfetched that Stephanie Szostak COULD play Wasp, I'm just not jumping on the stupid fanboy hype train, where people get SO attached to a theory they forget that it's just that, a theory. Speculation with no fact.
So it's kind of like the logic behind a million monkeys writing at a million typewriters for an infinite amount of time; eventually they will have written the complete works of shakespeare.
In other words, LokiD's long posts are bound to have some small amount of accuracy, probability-wise. Write about something for long enough and eventually you will come up with something somewhat accurate.
Sounds like the ying to Roger Wardell's yang. Not sure if I buy it.
Why do you care?
For the record, we have had people come here and post things that seemed farfetched but later panned out completely. The most notable was Jordanstine, who gave a complete summary of The Avengers, including descriptions of the leviathans, months before the film premiered. Plenty of people dismissed what he had to say, to the point that he eventually left, but he was right and gave info that would have been interesting if anyone had listened.
Do some people come here and post nonsense? Yes. But a lot of speculation ends up being wrong when all is said and done. All we're doing here, as fans, is spinning theories and discussing the movie. It's all in fun, or at least it should be.