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Mad Love in Arkham Asylum, origin of Harley and Joker's transformation into The Clown Prince of crime.
Hell, if they stray away from the over usage of Scorsese influences and let it be more of its own thing it could even end up being better than the first one.This is probably my most hyped DC film right now. It’s so stupid how people think it will retroactively ruin the integrity of the first one. The people that actually care about the creative integrity are the creators. If they’re on board, we should be too.
Apparently Scorsese (who declined to produce the first film) is on board for the sequel.Hell, if they stray away from the over usage of Scorsese influences and let it be more of its own thing it could even end up being better than the first one.
THR said:On Oct. 7, Joker director Todd Phillips headed into Warner Bros. Pictures Group chairman Toby Emmerich’s office, buoyed by the film’s $96.2 million opening-weekend haul. Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter he proposed an outsized idea — the rights to develop a portfolio of DC characters’ origin stories.
Variety said:Warner Bros. film chief Toby Emmerich has met with writer and director Todd Phillips and co-writer Scott Silver to explore possible ideas for a sequel to the drama about the early days of the Clown Prince of Crime. Insiders caution that the talks are very preliminary, no deal is in place, no storyline has been decided upon, and no script is currently being written. Phillips is also eager to make sure that any follow-up meets the artistic level of the original, which garnered strong reviews and Oscar buzz for star Joaquin Phoenix. Phillips was initially pretty clear that he saw “Joker” as being a one-off.
LA Times said:At one point during the development of “Joker,” he proposed to Warner Bros. executives that they create a separate offshoot label called DC Black as a kind of laboratory for what he calls “independent-minded films about these characters.” (“They’re like, ‘Calm down with the label — how about you do one movie?’ ” Phillips said with a dry laugh.)
The Playlist said:Asked if there was any movement on the film to his knowledge or whether they’d ever make a sequel, Phoenix seemed to be very open to a sequel still — as he was at the time of the film’s original release—but appeared to be in the dark on any updates or whether the sequel will actually come to pass. “I mean, I dunno. From when we were shooting, we started to —you know, uhh, this is an interesting guy. There are some things we could do with this guy and could [explore] further. But as to whether we actually will? I don’t know.”
You should re-read those quotes. That’s just not true. If that’s the justification for the negativity towards a sequel, it can be quickly dispelled.That may be what was reported at the time, but the fact that they decided to even think of the possibility of a sequel only after the immense success of the first one, speaks volumes to the main reason they're doing this. I've seen numerous cases of directors, writers and actors coming back for one more than they originally intended and it very rarely turns out any good. Again, not saying there's no way this can be worth it, but the skepticism around it is definitely justifiable for that very reason.
LA Times interview with Phillips said:At one point during the development of “Joker,” he (Phillips) proposed to Warner Bros. executives that they create a separate offshoot label called DC Black as a kind of laboratory for what he calls “independent-minded filmS about these characters.” (“They’re like, ‘Calm down with the label — how about you do one movie?’ ” Phillips said with a dry laugh.)
Should I be the one to re-read the quotes? Because that's not what it says there. It says Phillips proposed the idea of having a separate label for similar type of origin movies like his. Nothing specifically about Joker sequels.You should re-read those quotes. That’s just not true. If that’s the justification for the negativity towards a sequel, it can be quickly dispelled.
The idea of multiple films was pitched by Phillips before shooting even began.
"We have no plan for a sequel," Joker director Todd Phillips recently said at a post-screening reception for press in Los Angeles. The director was clarifying comments he made in an earlier interview after reports of Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix wanting to make a Joker sequel swirled online, which Phillips admitted he found "annoying."
Phillips took the opportunity to say his words about a potential sequel were taken out of context in a Total Film interview. "The quote was, 'I will do anything Joaquin wants to do.' And I would. But the movie's not set up to [have] a sequel. We always pitched it as one movie, and that's it."
Should I be the one to re-read the quotes? Because that's not what it says there. It says Phillips proposed the idea of having a separate label for similar type of origin movies like his. Nothing specifically about Joker sequels.
There were numerous other reports at the time that disputed any plans for a sequel. Here's one from an IGN article back in September 2019, straight from the horse's mouth.
Also, I don't see the so-called negativity you mention. According to the majority of comments on this forum people seem to be mostly excited about the prospect of a sequel. And skepticism doesn't necessarily equals negativity. It just means not trusting someone blindly, especially when he hasn't earned it.
It’s not confirmation that the movie ‘is a go’. It’s confirmation that a sequel is in the works. This report is from The Hollywood Reporter (as reputable as it gets). A sequel is in early development, but if you know about the trades and how they work, you will know that The Hollywood Reporter is anything but ‘wishful thinking’ or ‘clickbait’.Yeah I am gonna need more than that...people write scripts all the time. If there hasn't been a confirmation the film is happening and if even JP is saying he hasn't heard anything about it I will just assume it is wishful thinking from clickbaiters.
If a script is being written for a sequel to a movie that made over a billion dollars, I'm inclined to think that something will come of it.Yeah I am gonna need more than that...people write scripts all the time. If there hasn't been a confirmation the film is happening and if even JP is saying he hasn't heard anything about it I will just assume it is wishful thinking from clickbaiters.
If a script is being written for a sequel to a movie that made over a billion dollars, I'm inclined to think that something will come of it.
That’s your prerogative, but in the industry, these types of little confirmations all add up to a much bigger picture. Your skepticism is pretty unfounded when you consider how iron-clad the source is. It’s from THR, this is top level. There is confirmed movement and the film is actively being developed with a contracted writer and an (apparently) interested star.I am not saying it won't...but until a confirmation in a reputable publication shows up there is nothing to say it will. As of now we have a blurb that he was contracted to write one and that is it. There is nothing else. I guarantee we could find similar blurbs about every sequel to every DC film including bombs...
Again, it likely happens, but I will believe it when I see JP saying it in Variety or THR. Not some secondhand comment in a blurb about an entertainment lawyer. I think people are clinging to a lot of really thin circumstantial evidence.