The Joker Thread - Part 1

I just don't think the Drops are going to factor into things very much. My gut is that they're world-building set dressing and nothing more.
 
DeadlyWest said:
I honestly hope they keep Joker looking normal physically. I wouldn't be opposed to something akin to Penguin where there is makeup and prosthetics but just done in a realistic manner. Reason being that it could seriously add to the scariness factor if Joker "looks" normal in terms of his physical anatomy and it's just his eyes/smile that play into it. My main idea has always been essentially Anthony Hopkins' Hannibal Lecter but shot like he was Michael Myers. Rather than homicidal clown, go more "A Pure Embodiment of Evil Itself." Could you imagine this, but with a manic grin
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in THIS type of a shot?

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It'd be the stuff of nightmares. And it'd be far more effective if Joker looks "normal", physically (not counting the makeup). Because then you get into uncanny valley and that type of human response. Making Joker look like a physical monstrosity with the biggest chin in the world ala Tim Sale would take away from that, in my opinion
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This is a very valid argument, but I still feel like there's a little niche market for ghoulish Joker that hasn't been tapped yet.
 
Boom said:
I just don't think the Drops are going to factor into things very much. My gut is that they're world-building set dressing and nothing more.
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Well it's only natural to wonder what the Drops even are if they're going to be included at all. I'm not saying that it's going to (or even has to be) a major plotline, but even as world building, I could see it being used as a vehicle to incorporate some neat stuff visually, like an exaggerated Joker.
 
Chris Reeves said:
I've said it before, but in the event that The Drops turn out being a hallucinogen, we could get the best of both worlds in that the Joker could look relatively normal, but be an absolute nightmare ghoul when seen from the perspective of someone who's tripping on The Drops.
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It's a cool thought, just seems a little too Begins to me. No guarantee Reeves'll ever use Scarecrow, but maybe it's best leaving that stuff for him or similar villains. Of course Joker can be involved in drugs and stuff, just don't know that we need any trippy nightmare-hallucinations with him specifically.

Guy should basically be terrifying just normally. Not even necessarily super messed-up facially (wouldn't want the scars & stuff again), but like...yeah, nobody's going to need any chemical encouragement to be p*ssing themselves when in the presence of Joker even at his mildest-looking. The unsettling behavior and unpredictability's enough.
 
JubJub86 said:
It's a cool thought, just seems a little too Begins to me. No guarantee Reeves'll ever use Scarecrow, but maybe it's best leaving that stuff for him or similar villains. Of course Joker can be involved in drugs and stuff, just don't know that we need any trippy nightmare-hallucinations with him specifically.

Guy should basically be terrifying just normally. Not even necessarily super messed-up facially (wouldn't want the scars & stuff again), but like...yeah, nobody's going to need any chemical encouragement to be p*ssing themselves when in the presence of Joker even at his mildest-looking. The unsettling behavior and unpredictability's enough.
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This is all well-said and completely valid. I'm just trying to imagine ways we could see an exaggerated Joker without having to resort to anything overly unrealistic, like the villains in the Dick Tracy movie lol people are so desensitized now, it's hard to imagine what style of Joker could even be that scary that we haven't already seen aside from visually. People just think the pencil trick is cool now, nothing really scary per se. That's part of why I'm really diggin those CLJ visualizers, such an eerie, nightmarish, hallucinatory vibe that I think would set it apart from the Jokers we've seen.
 
shauner111 said:
In other words it’s a escapist drug. Escape From Gotham lol. A nightmare hallucinogen is more Scarecrow’s calling card.
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Again, I'm not saying the Joker has to be the one responsible for the Drops. He could just be who someone tripping on Drops happens to see. Imagine people having this one escape from the doldrums of a corrupt city, and have that one escape be ruined by sightings of a mysterious goulish clown faced psycho lol it could also serve to make the Joker more mythological, like an urban legend to counter Batman.
 
Definitely all-in on the urban legend approach with him. Like he's been "Joker" for not too long, sometime post-Batman being on the scene - he's had a few encounters with people in the seedy underworld side of Gotham, but nobody really knows jack about him other than the bodies always ending up in his wake. Low-lives running the stories up the chain to their bosses, but nobody really believes them. Penguin types all like "Yeah right, some skinny clown's operating out of some abandoned factory somehow cooking up the Drops, and he's telling corny jokes to you before slaughtering 15 of our guys? Lay off the giggle-juice, Johnny Two-Toes."
 
Why not give him a tail. Just one scene. He turns around, and a big fluffy tail rides up from under his trench coat, wiggling about from side to side as he saunters away. And then it's never seen or mentioned again. Just a one scene tail.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Why not give him a tail. Just one scene. He turns around, and a big fluffy tail rides up from under his trench coat, wiggling about from side to side as he saunters away. And then it's never seen or mentioned again. Just a one scene tail.
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For the love of all that is holy do not give The Joker a clip-on furry tail
 
Clip-on cat ears and broadcasting weird threats from a Youtube video-reaction channel, spurting goofy-ass millennial slang and all.

Let's get nuts.
 
JubJub86 said:
Clip-on cat ears and broadcasting weird threats from a Youtube video-reaction channel, spurting goofy-ass millennial slang and all.

Let's get nuts.
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*Gen-Z :cwink:
 
shauner111 said:
LMAO that brings me back to yesterday where Monsieur Andy took the Brody/Glover comment seriously :)
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In my defense there are still people who unironically want that to happen
 
I still think there is a very good chance Joaquin plays Reeves’ Joker. And I agree that it is pretty much the biggest mic drop they could do right now.
He won an Oscar and the movie made 1B, it ultimately matters what Phoenix and Reeves think, but I’m sure WB has discussed the possibility. I’m 100% for it. Joker 2 is my most anticipated DC film besides Flash and The Batman.

Imagine The Batman ends with a Joaquin Joker cameo, and then suddenly Joker 2 is a sequel to The Batman and Joker.
 
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