The Dark Knight The Joker's Plot

Everyone seems to be talking about Joker being the embodiment of the "randomness of crime". While that may be the general consensus, what if the Joker is actually the embodiment of the line between genius and insanity? Think about it: his crimes appear to be random, but in reality each one of them serves two purposes: one, to exact vengeance on high-class society (when he was working as a stand-up comic, they were the kind of people who booed him out, and so in his mind are his enemies); two, to challenge Batman.

In terms of his "random" murders, what if they aren't random at all? What if each murder has some kind of connection--however loose--to an eventual target? I'll give you three examples: Joker murders Rachel. Seemingly random (even though we expect it), but what if it was because Joker knew that Rachel and Bruce were together, and that Bruce was a contributor to Harvey Dent's campaign for DA? It serves both of his purposes. OK, in terms of a less violent crime, but no less dramatic: Joker defaces a political poster for Dent's DA campaign by splashing one side of Dent's face with Rachel's blood? (extreme? maybe, but this is Mr. J. we're talking about) It says something about Joker's intentions for Harvey and vaguely reveals that Joker knows something about Dent that not very many people know. And the Gotham National Bank robbery? Dent's political funds are stored in an account at that bank. Finally, each of these offer clues that Batman-- the Dark Knight Detective, has to piece together. All of these makes Joker the perfect opposite to Batman.

This, I think, makes the Joker a much more complex, sadistic, and above all human character. He doesn't want to take over the world, he just wants to make people laugh at his jokes. But to do that he has to remove the people who won't.
 
do you think If Joker does truly create two-face that the whole idea of splashin one side of his face with acid is a metaphor for him being a "two faced" official and only Joker knows about the bad things he's done to make his campaigne more succsessful?
 
I'm with everyone else.

With what we were given at the very end of "Batman Begins", the Joker has just recently surfaced not too long after (if not right after) the defeat of Ra's Al Ghul (though it is possible that he first became the Joker right after the Batman first gained media attention). We know that he has a "taste for the theatrics" (much like Batman) so this could mean that shortly after Jack Napier's (if he goes by that name) accident he became inspired by this dark and broody character, the Batman, to become his complete opposite.

With the introduction of new crime bosses, it could be possible that the Joker will be planning to act as an unexpected wild card and take down fueding gangs so that he can rise to the top as the Clown Prince of Crime, while also causing random mischief and mayhem to either keep Batman occupied or really piss him off (he could also desperately be trying to gain a laugh out of him).

What I want to know is if he will be using his laughing gas in the movie or will he leave Glasgow smiles a la "The Black Dahlia" on his victims faces (or maybe he won't be doing either one)?


Wow, I like the first thing that you said. Batman uses theatrics to strike fear into the hearts of "villians". He is a hero, but he chooses dark imagery as his weapon. The Joker, completely insane, says to himself, he is going to the exact opposite "aesthetic" for the exact opposite situation. So instead of dark, evil brooding superhero, we get clown masks and balloons robbing banks. I love it.
 
do you think If Joker does truly create two-face that the whole idea of splashin one side of his face with acid is a metaphor for him being a "two faced" official and only Joker knows about the bad things he's done to make his campaigne more succsessful?

That sounds awesome. I guess from the photos in the other thread depicting that aquatic construction confirm the two barges. Not bad news at all. :yay:
 

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