Justice League The Justice League Casting Thread - Part 4

[Brian Braddock]

Apologies. Reynolds gats a fair bit of bashing on here and it's hard to keep up with who's doing the bashing.

In regards to his recent performances I guess it's a very subjective subject. You say he was awful in Blade 3, Wolverine and Green Lantern yet I think he was the best thing in Blade 3 [an awful movie], entirely decent with what little he had to do in Wolverine [again, an awful movie] and while he may have been a bit off tonally in GL that was down to the script and direction.

Reynolds has the dramatic tools to do Hal justice, imo. If he's given the chance by the studio and the fans.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I can understand your reasoning behind that but at the same time Routh has the tools to do Superman justice if the studio and fans let him.


Oh wait, he was recast. Because that is how THIS studio works when your movie is poorly received and doesn't make bank.


That's why even the topic of Reynolds coming back is ludicrous. He was the starring vehicle in the biggest financial bomb in decades and one of the most critically panned films of 2011. What motivation does WB have to bring him back? None. He's not even on contract anymore.

 

[Brian Braddock]

IMO the performance of GL has no bearing in this as JL is an entirely different beast - you might as well say that TIH had a bearing in the success of the Avengers. My thinking is that it's just not as risky a decision for WB as you make it out to be - it's an ensemble piece so Reynolds wouldnt be carrying it on his own, although the studio may just figure that he's still nevertheless an actor with established name recognition (unlike Routh) and that it's worth having him reprise.

 

[Sub-Zero]

They should just recast gl with Mark ruffalo like that justice league trailer with action figures said.

 

[KangConquers]

IMO the performance of GL has no bearing in this as JL is an entirely different beast - you might as well say that TIH had a bearing in the success of the Avengers. My thinking is that it's just not as risky a decision for WB as you make it out to be - it's an ensemble piece so Reynolds wouldnt be carrying it on his own, although the studio may just figure that he's still nevertheless an actor with established name recognition (unlike Routh) and that it's worth having him reprise.

The Incredible Hulk wasn't a universally bashed $200 M film that lost substantial money. It was a film with high average reviews that barely made back it's money on dvd, and Marvel still deemed it necessary to separate itself from the film.

I can't imagine Warner Bros claiming GL in any way in this film. They distanced themselves from Superman Returns, a film that was met with much better reception and box office. I'm not so sure why you're all gungho to see Lantern tie in with JLA.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Is Army Hammer still up for Batman? With a dye job and a few more years on his skin he can be a damn good Bruce. He has the voice too. The only problem would be being five inches taller than Superman. Though this being cinema, that can be mended by clever camera work.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Joe Manganiello would make a good Batman

Cavill had the nice innocent guy appeal for Superman, which is obvious Joe couldn't pull off. But he is more suited for Batman anyway.

 

[Midnight Black]

Actually he should have played Hercules instead of the Rock IMO. Also, he would make a good Capt. Marvel if going less ethnic, though Joe could look more Mediterranean at times.

Could be Hercules in a Thor sequel down the line.

 

[Rodrigo90]

He would suit those characters very much too.

But he should at least be looked at for Batman though. I used to shrug him off, but after seeing more of him, he's pretty decent.

 

[Wheels]

Doesn't matter whose fault it was, the character will be remembered poorly and he was/is the character. And he could have very well contested to that god awful treatment. But it proves he was more about the $

Same could be said for Green Lantern. The script/director/story/etc failed him but he did alright. Doesn't change the fact the movie sucked and he sucked in it

Exactly, and for the record I liked Ryan in both roles.

 

[KangConquers]

I can understand your reasoning behind that but at the same time Routh has the tools to do Superman justice if the studio and fans let him.


Oh wait, he was recast. Because that is how THIS studio works when your movie is poorly received and doesn't make bank.


That's why even the topic of Reynolds coming back is ludicrous. He was the starring vehicle in the biggest financial bomb in decades and one of the most critically panned films of 2011. What motivation does WB have to bring him back? None. He's not even on contract anymore.

Pretty much.

 

[Marvin]

Dark haired Chastian for Wonder Woman, she's currently liked and she can play both fierce and vulnerable.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Routh was awful. The only good thing he did was say that he thought it would be a reboot, sadly he was wrong. Reynolds was miscast, Bradley copper was more Hal Jordan like, but the movie had no plot and a cloud was the villain. Rebecca hall could do WW justice batman is tough (fassbender, gyllenhaal, gosling with a deeper voice could work.

 

[shauner111]

If Jake Gyllenhaal is Batman, i'm boycotting. Ill be so angry. That guy bores the hell out of me.

If Bradley Cooper can get over his Batman voice as he calls it, i'd say he should have another go at Hal Jordan. Gosling for Barry Allen.

 

[Rorschach2012]

If Jake Gyllenhaal is Batman, i'm boycotting. Ill be so angry. That guy bores the hell out of me.

If Bradley Cooper can get over his Batman voice as he calls it, i'd say he should have another go at Hal Jordan. Gosling for Barry Allen.

I'm all for Cooper as Hal and Gosling as Allen. Those are easily the best choices IMO.

Superman: Henry Cavill
Batman: Christian Bale
Wonder Woman: Jennifer Lawrence or Amber Heard
Green Lantern: Bradley Cooper
Flash: Ryan Gosling

I realize it wont be this A-list type of cast but I can dream

 

[IamtheBatman]

Joe Manganiello would make a good Batman

Cavill had the nice innocent guy appeal for Superman, which is obvious Joe couldn't pull off. But he is more suited for Batman anyway.

I like Manganiello but he's way taller then Cavill!

 

[Sub-Zero]

I like Manganiello but he's way taller then Cavill!

that's not really an issue. john rhys-davies was the tallest cast member of LOTR, but he played gimli. camera tricks and what not could fix that. i just can't see manganiello as batman. hawkman maybe, but not batman. he'll always be that guy from how i met your mother who keeps saying "redonk" or flash from raimi's spider-man.

superman:cavill
batman:someone other than bale, but if it is bale that's cool.
wonder woman: rebecca hall
green lantern: bradley cooper(hal), derek luke(john)
flash: ryan gosling
aquaman: jude law
mm: cg character

 

[IamtheBatman]

What about Tom Welling as Batman he was always better playing Bizarro then Clark.

 

[Sub-Zero]

What about Tom Welling as Batman he was always better playing Bizarro then Clark.

i can't tell if you're being serious or trolling.

 

[IamtheBatman]

i can't tell if you're being serious or trolling.

Nope, just joking! I rather have somebody who is a better quality actor then him.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Well he was almost Superman lol

The reason being was that he wasn't suitable for a fresh faced Superman. Which is understandable.

I thought he was more for Hawkman, giving his toughness and moody look. But after seeing more of him, I think he has what it takes for an older and more hardened Batman.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

Apologies. Reynolds gats a fair bit of bashing on here and it's hard to keep up with who's doing the bashing.

In regards to his recent performances I guess it's a very subjective subject. You say he was awful in Blade 3, Wolverine and Green Lantern yet I think he was the best thing in Blade 3 [an awful movie], entirely decent with what little he had to do in Wolverine [again, an awful movie] and while he may have been a bit off tonally in GL that was down to the script and direction.

Reynolds has the dramatic tools to do Hal justice, imo. If he's given the chance by the studio and the fans.

Saying he was the best thing in Blade 3 is like saying he's the best option at McDonald's. He seems to have acting skills, but we never really see them. Almost every movie he does, he makes his character "Ryan Reynolds as..." You wouldn't say that about someone like Gary Oldman. He WAS Dracula. He WAS Commissioner Gordon. RR is "the RR version of Hal Jordan." But you are right that the GL script was awful.

That being said, he doesn't need a "chance." He needs a good director that can force him out of his comfort zone. I still can't see him as Hal Jordan again. But i would like to see him in a more serious role with a real director.

 

[cleverusername8]

At this point, I'd say it's best to recast Hal Jordan to leave possibility for revooting if reaction to the new character is good. The reboot could skip the origin and start with a more serious and better scripted movie that may redeem Green Lantern for the audience. Keeping Reynolds would a) leave his movie in JL continuity which would deal a blow to how some take to the story and b) force them to movie forward with GL 2 which woul undoubtedly require multiple recasts anyway as well as some distancing that would need to happen from movie 1.

Plus, any star power for this movie will probably come through better known characters. I can almost guarantee a big name will be given the Batman. Most popular hero of the group + best known actor = an anchor for the movie exposure wise. Hal will most likely be an averagely known or lesser known actor.

 

[Lobo]

As for this whole Reynolds/Hal thing it's easily retconned. Use John, or Kyle, they could maybe have a brief mention that there was another Lantern, who is off on a mission elsewhere in space.

 

[Midnight Black]

As for this whole Reynolds/Hal thing it's easily retconned. Use John, or Kyle, they could maybe have a brief mention that there was another Lantern, who is off on a mission elsewhere in space.

That would make sense and I would be fine with that.

However, I think if they did bring back Reynolds they would need to go the way of G.I. Joe and do a reboot sequel.

IMO though Josh Duhammel would make the best Hal Jordan GL, to me he is GL from the looks right down to the mannerisms.

Now with that said can we please quit mentioning Gyllenhaal, Cooper and Gosling...OMG those three names should not be mentioned anymore for Flash or GL and especially Batman. Give me a break. Was there some movie or flash mob I missed where these three guys became gods and the definitive ideal leading men for any and everything?!?!?

Geez Louise u guys are killing me with these three. I'm surprised we were even able to get Cavill as Supes as much as some of you just keep mentioning this miscast trinity for any and every superhero role. I'd rather Reynolds stay than to have Cooper, Gyllenhaal or Gosling take over as GL...man u guys...