The McCain Thread

[souvlaki]

Eat your heart out, Colin Powell. McCain just picked up a crucial endorsement.

"Al-Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election..." It said the Arizona Republican would continue the "failing march of his predecessor," President Bush.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/21/AR2008102102477.html

 

[Knives]

Ah they're going back to that liberal elite media again. They really don't have ANY message do they? The McCain campaign is such a complete joke. Just an empty, unorganized crapshoot. And now with less then 2 weeks, they STILL don't have a message, STILL have no ideas, they just got stupid ass attacks which aren't working, and a calvacade of bobble heads popping up trying to out dumb eachother and an endless supply of cheap gimmicks. It's embarassing to watch. My GOD I cannot wait for November 4.

 

[Knives]

Eat your heart out, Colin Powell. McCain just picked up a crucial endorsement.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/21/AR2008102102477.html

 

[Marx]

Eat your heart out, Colin Powell. McCain just picked up a crucial endorsement.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/21/AR2008102102477.html

*picks jaw up off the floor*

 

[Superman]

A question for McCain supporters.

I keep hearing people from the McCain camp, And McCain himself has even said it a few times whenever somone brings up the crowds yelling "kill him" or "terrorist" at McCain's rallies, I keep hearing them say that there have been people at Obama's rallies that are saying similar things.

My question, What EXACTLY is being said at Obama's rallies that compares to "Kill Him" or "Terroist"?

McCain keeps saying that it goes on in both camps but he never says what exactly is being said about him at Obama's rallies.

Oh and please, when you answer this question, Please don't come back with "McBush" or "McSame" because those names don't even come close to calling Obama a "Terroist".

I look forward to an answer.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Haha wow.

 

[CaptainClown]

A question for McCain supporters.

I keep hearing people from the McCain camp, And McCain himself has even said it a few times whenever somone brings up the crowds yelling "kill him" or "terrorist" at McCain's rallies, I keep hearing them say that there have been people at Obama's rallies that are saying similar things.

My question, What EXACTLY is being said at Obama's rallies that compares to "Kill Him" or "Terroist"?

McCain keeps saying that it goes on in both camps but he never says what exactly is being said about him at Obama's rallies.

Oh and please, when you answer this question, Please don't come back with "McBush" or "McSame" because those names don't even come close to calling Obama a "Terroist".

I look forward to an answer.

THEY CALL MCCAIN OLD!


ya I got nothing. I don't understand that comparison that McCain is getting it as bad as Obama.

 

[Paradoxium]

Maybe Al Qaeda is the October Surprise. This is would explain all those wierd secret meetings with the world military leaders happening recently and the all the troops prepped on domestic soil.

 

[StorminNorman]

Democrats generally don't have a problem if someone feels it's not the right party for them anymore. The problem in Joe's case lies in the fact that he is a backstabbing ass.

You do realize that Obama endorsed the Democratic Primary Winner against Lieberman in the election?

If Lieberman was really a "backstabbing ass" he would decide to no longer vote with Democrats.

Also - I don't understand the "Democrats generally don't have a problem if someone feels it's not the right party for them anymore" as it was irrelevant to the conversation as Powell did not say the Republican Party was no longer his party anymore - he simply criticized the national party's handling of this election.

 

[souvlaki]

Maybe Al Qaeda is the October Surprise. This is would explain all those wierd secret meetings with the world military leaders happening recently and the all the troops prepped on domestic soil.

Yeah, it's mentioned in the article:

The Web commentary was one of several posted by Taliban or al-Qaeda-allied groups in recent days that trumpeted the global financial crisis and predicted further decline for the United States and other Western powers. In language that was by turns mocking and ominous, the newest posting credited al-Qaeda with having lured Washington into a trap that had "exhausted its resources and bankrupted its economy." It further suggested that a terrorist strike might swing the election to McCain and guarantee an expansion of U.S. military commitments in the Islamic world.

"It will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaeda," said the posting, attributed to Muhammad Haafid, a longtime contributor to the password-protected site. "Al-Qaeda then will succeed in exhausting America."

 

[Superman]

Eat your heart out, Colin Powell. McCain just picked up a crucial endorsement.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/21/AR2008102102477.html

This reminds me of what Powell said the other day. I'm paraphrasing here...The stuff that McCain has been doing these last few weeks is going out on Al Jazeera and it's killing us around the world.

He was right.

 

[StorminNorman]

A question for McCain supporters.

I keep hearing people from the McCain camp, And McCain himself has even said it a few times whenever somone brings up the crowds yelling "kill him" or "terrorist" at McCain's rallies, I keep hearing them say that there have been people at Obama's rallies that are saying similar things.

My question, What EXACTLY is being said at Obama's rallies that compares to "Kill Him" or "Terroist"?

McCain keeps saying that it goes on in both camps but he never says what exactly is being said about him at Obama's rallies.

Oh and please, when you answer this question, Please don't come back with "McBush" or "McSame" because those names don't even come close to calling Obama a "Terroist".

I look forward to an answer.

I would point to the assertions that McCain was a "coward" while serving his country that have been made by our own posters here.

The more obvious comparisons between the hateful rhetoric is the insults thrown at Sarah Palin. There have been protesters that have shown up with "Sarah Palin is a c***" shirts, she has been called every insult you have on the book.

Sandra Bernhard has said about Palin: "Uncle Women," a "turncoat b—h" and a "****e" and stated if Palin went to Harlem she would be "gang-raped by my big black brothers"
http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/2006/08/this-weeks-project.html

 

[Marx]

I would point to the assertions that McCain was a "coward" while serving his country that have been made by our own posters here.

The more obvious comparisons between the hateful rhetoric is the insults thrown at Sarah Palin. There have been protesters that have shown up with "Sarah Palin is a c***" shirts, she has been called every insult you have on the book.

Sandra Bernhard has said about Palin: "Uncle Women," a "turncoat b—h" and a "****e" and stated if Palin went to Harlem she would be "gang-raped by my big black brothers"
http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/2006/08/this-weeks-project.html

While I think that is inappropriate, it is still not calling for her death. Now is it?

 

[Gilpesh]

I would point to the assertions that McCain was a "coward" while serving his country that have been made by our own posters here.

So you call running away from a fire that threatened his other crew members and the entire ship just to save his ass, not cowardly?

 

[The Senator]

Yeah, that's right: calling someone a c-word is comparable to calling for a man's death, or hanging an effigy of the black candidate.

 

[StorminNorman]

So you call running away from a fire that threatened his other crew members and the entire ship just to save his ass, not cowardly?

I would say that anyone who fights proudly in the military is not a coward, especially a man who opted to stay in a Vietnamese prison camp instead of going home.

Did McCain make some mistakes earlier in his military career? Almost certainly - but even if McCain acted "cowardly" earlier in his career, his later actions indicate him of a man of far greater character than that.

I think it would be equally unfair to call Obama a "criminal" simply because he was once a drug user. His work since his younger days have done the same.

 

[StorminNorman]

Yeah, that's right: calling someone a c-word is comparable to calling for a man's death, or hanging an effigy of the black candidate.

No - but saying Palin would be gang raped in Harlem certainly is.

 

[Superman]

I would point to the assertions that McCain was a "coward" while serving his country that have been made by our own posters here.

The more obvious comparisons between the hateful rhetoric is the insults thrown at Sarah Palin. There have been protesters that have shown up with "Sarah Palin is a c***" shirts, she has been called every insult you have on the book.

Sandra Bernhard has said about Palin: "Uncle Women," a "turncoat b—h" and a "****e" and stated if Palin went to Harlem she would be "gang-raped by my big black brothers"
http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/2006/08/this-weeks-project.html

OK first of all I didn't ask for stuff that has been said here at Hype so please don't try to change the subject again.

2nd, Althought I don't agree with the Palin shirts that you talked about, I don't see how that compares to "Kill Him" or "Terroist".

3rd, Who cares what Sandra Bernhard said? I haven't even seen that woman on anything in years. She's a "Has-been" trying to get her name back in the spotlight. And again I don't see how that compares to "Kill Him" or "Terroist".

I'll ask again, What has been said at any Obama rally that compares to people in McCain's rallies saying things like "Kill Him" or "Terroist"?

 

[Gilpesh]

I would say that anyone who fights proudly in the military is not a coward, especially a man who opted to stay in a Vietnamese prison camp instead of going home.

Now this isn't my opinion on that but I have heard that, the offer was given to all the POWs so that doesn't make McCain anymore special than the other POWs in that camp that decided to stay also.

Did McCain make some mistakes earlier in his military career? Almost certainly - but even if McCain acted "cowardly" earlier in his career, his later actions indicate him of a man of far greater character than that.

There's much more than just the fire... and it is more than his 'early' military career. It was pretty much his entire career besides the POW experience he had.

I think it would be equally unfair to call Obama a "criminal" simply because he was once a drug user. His work since his younger days have done the same.

Well... let's not open that can of bees about drug use making someone a criminal...

 

[Superman]

I would say that anyone who fights proudly in the military is not a coward, especially a man who opted to stay in a Vietnamese prison camp instead of going home.

Did McCain make some mistakes earlier in his military career? Almost certainly - but even if McCain acted "cowardly" earlier in his career, his later actions indicate him of a man of far greater character than that.

I think it would be equally unfair to call Obama a "criminal" simply because he was once a drug user. His work since his younger days have done the same.

I agree with you, McCain is not a coward. But again I don't care what's been said here at Hype, I'm talking about stuff that has been said at Obama's rallies.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

No - but saying Palin would be gang raped in Harlem certainly is.

So that makes people screaming "Kill Him" at Obama's direction during McCain rallies okay?

I think both of those things are wrong and both should be denounced by both of the campaigns.

 

[Überlibran]

You do realize that Obama endorsed the Democratic Primary Winner against Lieberman in the election?

Obama backed Joe Lieberman until his loss in the Democratic primary against Ned Lamont. Of course Obama backed the Democrat when Lieberman pitched a hissy and decided to run as an Independent.

If Lieberman was really a "backstabbing ass" he would decide to no longer vote with Democrats.

He can vote as he sees fit. That doesn't negate any other his other scuzzy behavior.

Also - I don't understand the "Democrats generally don't have a problem if someone feels it's not the right party for them anymore" as it was irrelevant to the conversation as Powell did not say the Republican Party was no longer his party anymore - he simply criticized the national party's handling of this election.

Irrelevant to the conversation perhaps - but you could also say your argument that the Democratic pundits would treat Democrats endorsing Republicans equally as harsh as they are treat Powell (by citing reaction to Lieberman) is equally irrelevant, because Lieberman is not a Democrat anymore.

 

[Superman]

No - but saying Palin would be gang raped in Harlem certainly is.

Can you prove that that was said at a Obama rally? Is there a report you can point to that doesn't have a Right Wing bias or a video you can post that says this?

You see there is video proof of people at McCain's rallies saying those things but I've yet to see or read of anything similar being said at Obama's rallies. You would think that if there was evidence of someone saying something like that it would be all over YouTube at the very least.

 

[StorminNorman]

Can you prove that that was said at a Obama rally? Is there a report you can point to that doesn't have a Right Wing bias or a video you can post that says this?

You see there is video proof of people at McCain's rallies saying those things but I've yet to see or read of anything similar being said at Obama's rallies. You would think that if there was evidence of someone saying something like that it would be all over YouTube at the very least.

It wasn't said at a rally, but why does the venue matter here? Its not as if "terrorist" and "kill him" are anything more than the shouts of the occasional nut at a rally. Both sides have their diehard supporters that have crossed the line.

 

[StorminNorman]

Obama backed Joe Lieberman until his loss in the Democratic primary against Ned Lamont. Of course Obama backed the Democrat when Lieberman pitched a hissy and decided to run as an Independent.

LOL, so Lieberman running (and winning) as an Indepedent is him "pitching a hissy"? Ridiculous.

He can vote as he sees fit. That doesn't negate any other his other scuzzy behavior.

What scuzzy behavior? Again -if your entire argument is that Obama supported him in the Democratic Primary so Lieberman shouldn't endorse any other man but Obama (ignoring the fact that Obama endorsed LIEBERMAN's challenge in the general election), then your argument is incredibly flimsy.