The McCain Thread

[ChrisBaleBatman]

It's different, I think to say he's no ready.

McCain's campaign really went into the mud I think. I genuinely do.

There are people, scared ****less because they think Obama is a friend to Osama Bin Laden.

They called him a terrorist. They called him a commie.

I understand it's part of the game to say crazy ****, but atleast stay on it all the way. When they start saying about how cool the guy now is, after saying heavy **** like he's a terrorist...I dunno, makes me wonder how anyone's going to take any warning from Palin or McCain seriously anymore.

It's just strange is all. One second Palin's talking about how we need to work together with him and help him be a good Prez, then she starts cutting the promo about how he's a terrorist again. Too much double talk.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Or the fact that.....OBAMA'S OWN VICE PRESIDENT SAID HE WASN'T READY....................god the bipartisan double standard around this place with some of you is almost vomit inducing....


Not speaking of you Matt, but the person you replied to among a few others....

...

start to vomit, then.

Because calling someone not ready is the same as calling someone a terrorist?

okay.

 

[Marx]

*prepares Hype! Politico Thunderdome!*

 

[Visionary]

So what is the old rat bastard doing now, is he traveling back through his worm-hole to hell?

 

[Kelly]

...

start to vomit, then.

Because calling someone not ready is the same as calling someone a terrorist?

okay.

When it comes from the man that is now your vice president....uh yeah.



And I don't recall her saying "Obama is a terrorist", but "he hangs with them...." which is stupid as well, imo.....but not the same.

NOW, your VP saying you are not ready, and that he would run with the guy you are running against......................so yeah............let me go get a TUMS.

 

[Holiday]

That was a very awkward conversation this morning, the little portion I heard. "Hey, how bout' that Kurt Warner? He's having a good season..."

As I said before I feel this was just for show so the republicans can't accuse Barack of not reaching across the aisle.

And we gotta remember that politics is politics and these guys do and say whatever it takes to win. I think politicans realize that and try not to take it personal. Don't get me wrong, that was the nastiest campaign I've seen in my short lifetime but guys and gals are trying to win.

 

[Marx]

That was a very awkward conversation this morning, the little portion I heard. "Hey, how bout' that Kurt Warner? He's having a good season..."

As I said before I feel this was just for show so the republicans can't accuse Barack of not reaching across the aisle.

And we gotta remember that politics is politics and these guys do and say whatever it takes to win. I think politicans realize that and try not to take it personal. Don't get me wrong, that was the nastiest campaign I've seen in my short lifetime but guys and gals are trying to win.

McCain's campaign went beyond gutter politics and there is no excuse for it.

 

[Holiday]

There is no doubt McCain's campaign was classless but that's how politics is sometimes. Doesn't mean they can't work together.

 

[CaptainClown]

well I don't think it was as much McCain but it might have been. Doubt it though. I just think republican strategist honestly thought it was a good idea. It was defeated and now they are back to the drawing board.

 

[Marx]

There is no doubt McCain's campaign was classless but that's how politics is sometimes. Doesn't mean they can't work together.

I disagree. There have been negative campaigns before, but never such blatant lies and character assassination.

 

[Holiday]

Right. We gotta remember McCain didn't want to use Jerimiah Wright. And it was Palin that jumped the gun ob Bill Ayers and said "Obama pals around with terrorists" not he himself is a terrorist though that is what she is implying.

I've been critical as anyone on McCains campsign but I understand politics can get nasty.

 

[Oddzball]

well I don't think it was as much McCain but it might have been. Doubt it though. I just think republican strategist honestly thought it was a good idea. It was defeated and now they are back to the drawing board.

Not the first time McCain's looked into bolting to the Dems... He was seriously considered by Kerry for VP in 2004 after making overtures to Kerry about it.

 

[Oddzball]

I disagree. There have been negative campaigns before, but never such blatant lies and character assassination.

Swiftboaters in 2004 and hell what Bush and the people McCain ended up hiring this year in the 2000 Primary race TO McCain. The filth has bee out and active for some years now.

The Irony is that the last clean Republican election in the last 20 years was Dole's and he was infamous as Ford's VP candidate for claiming the Democrats started all wars the US has been in for a century!

 

[Marx]

Swiftboaters in 2004 and hell what Bush and the people McCain ended up hiring this year in the 2000 Primary race TO McCain. The filth has bee out and active for some years now.

The Irony is that the last clean Republican election in the last 20 years was Dole's and he was infamous as Ford's VP candidate for claiming the Democrats started all wars the US has been in for a century!

The 2004 Swiftboaters and South Carolina 'illegitimate child' attack on McCain were not committed by the campaigns themselves. They were PACS and independent groups. The lies and character assassinations in this election cycle were committed by the actual campaign. I'm not excusing any of them, I am just saying that this was the worst by an actual campaign.

 

[The Major]

Right. We gotta remember McCain didn't want to use Jerimiah Wright.

McCain still used Wright against Obama at the end of the campaign.
Not that it did him any good. It seemed to have the opposite effect! t:

And it was Palin that jumped the gun ob Bill Ayers and said "Obama pals around with terrorists" not he himself is a terrorist though that is what she is implying.

Which he did a terrible job shutting her down on.

 

[Matt]

McCain still used Wright against Obama at the end of the campaign.
Not that it did him any good. It seemed to have the opposite effect! t:

No, McCain didn't. A 527 did.

 

[Bathead]

Ever think that some of these 527's sometimes shoot their own candidate in the foot with the nasty ads they run?

 

[Kelly]

Ever think that some of these 527's sometimes shoot their own candidate in the foot with the nasty ads they run?

Yes, that's how politics go................

 

[Marx]

McCain still used Wright against Obama at the end of the campaign.
Not that it did him any good. It seemed to have the opposite effect! t:

No, McCain didn't. A 527 did.

McCain did not, but Palin did.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

When it comes from the man that is now your vice president....uh yeah.

But they were opponents. If he'd had chosen Clinton it would have exactly the same.

Besides, one could say that they were proven wrong since Obama passed the two-year vetting process to high hell.

And I don't recall her saying "Obama is a terrorist", but "he hangs with them...." which is stupid as well, imo.....but not the same.

It is the same, though. When you're saying that he "pals around with terrorists" and say "he sees America as imperfect enough to do so" or "who is the real Barack Obama?"....they're saying he's a terrorist. They're not saying it outright, because then there would be a political ****storm in they're face...but c'mon. We're smarter than that. We can tell when they're trying to lead us to a conclusion like that.

Same thing when they started to toss around the second "terrorist" like person, who had a much more terrorist-like name than Bill Ayers (who sounds wayyyyy too white). Same thing when they had people introducing Palin and McCain at rally's by pumping up the crowd and bringing up Obama's middle name.

They're all aimed at doing the same thing. And when you put it together, they're purpose was to have us think he was some kind of sleeper cell, or a manchurian candidate...or sent to kill us from within our own government.

Now, I'm saying they're doing it. I'm not saying they're doing it in such a stupid way by boxing themselves in a corner, although surely Palin somewhat has.

NOW, your VP saying you are not ready, and that he would run with the guy you are running against......................so yeah............let me go get a TUMS.

It's not the same thing, though. To say he's not ready is opinion-based. There's no ready meter that can be filled for us to know if someone is ready.

But trying to paint someone as a terrorist? as unamerican? as a socialist? as a communist?

there's a huge difference. It's not partisanship. It's not. It's what happened. But you can't accuse me of being harder on the republicans because they're republicans.

Hell, I disagree with a ton of things Clinton did to try and bring down Obama. She got very close to doing the same thing as Palin.

 

[jaguarr]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/25/AR2008112502801.html

McCain Says He Will Run For Senate Again in 2010

By Michael D. Shear
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 26, 2008; A03

Sen. John McCain, who faced hometown reporters yesterday in his first news conference since losing the presidential election, pledged to return to the regular work of a senator and defended his decision to pick Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate.

"I'm very happy to be back and looking -- already spending several days at work here, and looking forward to a very active agenda, and looking forward to resuming my duties in the Senate and with the significant challenges that we face," McCain said in Phoenix.

The Republican from Arizona said he looks forward to returning to the Indian Affairs Committee and to making another visit to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Asked why he chose Palin, McCain said the main reason was "her qualifications," adding that he knew she would be an "energizing factor" in the race.

"Well, primarily, it was her qualifications, her reform agenda," McCain told reporters. "She took on and defeated an incumbent governor of her own party. She had attacked corruption that she saw there in Alaska. She was a mayor."

McCain said that he remains "honored" to have served Arizona and that he plans to run for reelection in 2010. He dismissed ideas that he might run for president again, saying that if he wins in 2010, he will pledge to serve a full six-year term.

He said he will continue pressing for immigration reform in the Senate, despite the issue's political pitfalls.

"Running for reelection has never been a concern of mine as far as issues like that are concerned. I intend to discuss that with the president-elect," he said of immigration.

I hope you get voted out of office, you senile old coot.

jag

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I found this great video of what McCain has been doing following the election...

 

[Holiday]

If McCain had been that badass during the election he may have actually won.

 

[Holiday]

If McCain had been that badass during the election he may have actually won.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I hope you get voted out of office, you senile old coot.

jag

I don't. When the election ended, it felt as if McCain returned to the original maverick McCain that we all knew and loved before he turned into a neo-con suck up that could not control his party.