McCain ignoring the millions of pleas to get us out of Iraq, especially considering things are supposed to be calming down over there, is irrelevant???
Yes, it is. If the Americans vote McCain into office, then him holding a position counter to millions is pretty irrelevant.
the point i was making is simply that McCain is going against the majority of American people, who wanted this war ended years ago.
And there is nothing wrong with that. Most Americans are not at all qualified to make such decisions. They get their info from a bias media that covers ever bad report and ignores almost every good.
there you go with Obama again. still waving that hand at your side i see...
We are not debating in a vacuum here. If you are going to criticize McCain for positions he holds during a Presidential campaign, than his opponent is valid.
...McCain's ludicrous tax cut for the rich compared to his pitiful tax cut for the middle class is enough to convince most people with a high school education that he's running for the rich people.
Please - its not McCain's tax cut for the rich its Bush's tax cut. He opposed the tax cut initially, however he opposes raising taxes - which means that he favors keeping the Bush tax cut. He does support lowering taxes on the middle class, something that the "tax cut for the rich" does as well.
Also, when you take into consideration that most of those "rich" that get the Bush tax cut are small business owners that produces thousands of jobs across the country, I think you are being small minded when you act as if the middle class does not benefit from those tax cuts.
he is elected to lead based on what the majority wants....at least that's how elections are SUPPOSED to work if everyone plays by the rules.
No. He is elected by a majority to lead. If it was a matter of what the majority wants, the President would be obligated to ban gay marriage, ban flag burning and make English the official language. Unless you are ready to state the President is obligated to that - your argument is poor. Again - this is the executive branch, not the legislative. There is a difference.
the president is supposed to have the mindset of "what is best for the country based on what EVERYONE (including government and other nations) wants" not "what is best for the country based on what a select few want". the majority is supposed to dictate the actions of our country, not just one person....when that happens it becomes a dictatorship.
No. The President is suppose to have the mindset of "what is best for the country" - he executes from his beliefs, the beliefs that the American people put their faith in when they elected him as Chief Executive. The President is not meant to rule by polls and popularity. The majority is suppose to elect the leader of the country, not to lead the country - again, the majority of Americans have no business dictating public policy because they are ill informed and ignorant.
if this is your mindset, then why have elections at all? the illusion that we have a say in the government?
No, we do have a say in government. We have a say in the leaders we send to Washington. In fact the wishes of the majority of the constituency should be what impacts the decision of Congressmen - but not the Executive Branch. The Executive Branch is meant to make decisions based on the convictions of the President - the President put in there by the people. Thats the way it works. This is simple Constitution 101. You don't like it - change the Constitution.
again, that's an insignificant issue when compared to the Iraq War. maybe you should bring up something that's directly effected by the war.....our economy perhaps. do you think the majority of ill informed and ignorant Americans are wrong about our economy?
Who gets to decide whats insignificant and whats not? For many people, gay marriage is the most important issue. For a select few flag burning is. The Iraq War isn't the most important issue in this country either - its third behind energy and the economy.
The majority of Americans (being ill informed and ignorant) have no idea how to fix the economy, nor do they really understand whats causing the problems in the economy. That being said, they can obviously tell when the economy is in bad shape and when the economy is in good shape - just as a child knows when the light is off and when it is on - he doesn't understand why flipping the switch controls the electricity, and he doesn't need to.
very true, both candidates are definitely guilty of playing towards the crowd. Obama just does a better job at it.
Obama is far better at it, and does it far more frequently. As they say, practice makes perfect.
if he's not willing to go out of his way to appease the American people then he has no business running for president. the president isn't supposed to have the mindset of "this is what i want" but rather "this is what WE want". as for Obama...he has changed many of his views, but most of them are based on the situation at the moment. also, Obama has nothing to do with why McCain is in bed with Bush so there's no reason to bring him into this particular conversation other than another failed attempt at distraction. keep waving that hand at your side, maybe it'll work on another person.
