The New Ghostbusters - Part 10

[chaseter]

Misandry doesn't injure men in the same way that continuing traditional gender roles and attitudes injures women. It's okay boys, you aren't going to be subjected to the same kind of harmful oppression that women have been. At the end of the day you will still be on the same side of the power dynamic in the over culture.

So fragile...so scared.

People that view revenge as a way to gain equal rights are petty, juvenile, and hilariously misguided. Then again sadly, that is how many people think today.

 

[Blade X]

http://www.thewrap.com/ghostbusters-sequel-will-happen-sony/

To whoever who said Sony would greenlit a sequel at the end of the weekend, congratulations apparently you're right.

The "nothing has been officially announced yet" statement makes me think this MIGHT not be the case and MIGHT be Sony pulling a FOX (like FOX did with the FF reboot) and saying that in order to (a) make it seem like they are happy with this underwhelming opening weekend and (b) make it seem like this movie is a huge hit. IIRC, didn't Sony announce a sequel to the 90'smerican GODZILLA movie? And we all know what happened to that sequel. It should also be noted that Sony was also planning a sequel to the 2014 ROBOCOP movie, which speaks volumes.

 

[Saint]

There's only so many times I can read a post that says, completely without irony, "It's so terrible the way men are portrayed in this film! Feminism run amok! We are truly slighted!" before it stops being funny and starts being depressing.

So I'm out, I think. Pretty okay movie. Six, maybe seven out of ten. Would watch a sequel. If you're interested in Ghostbusters I suggest ignoring the gender "controversy" a bunch of internet grubs dreamed up and judge it on it's own merits.

 

[bluejake01]

People that view revenge as a way to gain equal rights are petty, juvenile, and hilariously misguided. Then again sadly, that is how many people think today.

That's not revenge...revenge would require the systemic oppression of men.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Just got back from seeing it and LOVED it! The audience also really enjoyed it, they were laughing throughout the entire thing.

I'm glad that it was as good as it was given the very early reviews that said it was lackluster and all the hate it was/is getting.

Only nitpick I had was that they

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didn't really capture any ghosts. Apart from the dragon thing that was let go. I wasn't sure if during the big battle if they were "vanquishing" the ghosts or just made them to weak to be corporeal.

 

[Victarion]

They really did set Vigo up as this potentially nasty guy - just look at obscene amount of aggression alive and well today and imagine if that mood slime had brought it roaring to the surface. Imagine ghosts that're a reflection of all that anger and violence. Taken together, they really gave Vigo some potential as the villain...then ended up pulling their punches. That's the most disappointing thing about GBII, moreso than starting the 'busters over from square one.

I forgot to mention, the crowd at our showing was about what you expect for one of these "brand recognition" summer blockbuster movies.

 

[Sithborg]

The opening scene did give a brief flashback to the river of slime.

I do find it interesting that they tossed in that line to justify essentially resetting the knowledge and acceptance of ghosts back. Though with the more research angle they are going for, I don't think it would be all that important.

 

[BatLobster]

I really wanted this movie to be good. Unfortunately, it's so hit and miss that is inevitably lands in the mediocre and forgettable category for me. The audience I saw it with seemed to be into it though, so I'm glad people are enjoying it.

I don't think Paul Feig was the best fit for the material, personally. The cast is obviously talented, but I feel they were a bit wasted here. The weird thing for me was I went into this expecting to be one of the people that liked McKinnon's Holtzmann character based on the trailers, but she was really too over the top for me. It felt forced a lot of the time, like she was wearing a giant "I'M THE QUIRKY ONE" sign. I know McKinnon is a real talent, and I think Holtzmann has the potential to be a great character...but there were too times she went off the rails for me and it took me out of the movie.

I'd watch another one, but I feel like I'd really be more interested if we got to see a different director's take on the material. But I don't know... honestly, a bigger part of me still wishes they just let this franchise RIP.

 

[Rocketman]

Opened at #2 with $45 million for the weekend, huh?
Yeah... this will be forgotten next week.
See you in the $5 Walmart bin in December.

The thing that sucks is that it wasn't a terrible movie by any means... I just wasn't blown away by it.

 

[killface]

Like some of the posters here, I find the movie to be mediocre. The only Ghostbuster I found to be funny was Leslie Jones and even she was hit and miss. I didn't dig Kate McKinnon's shtick although I really like her in SNL. The only scene where I found her funny in was the one with

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Sigourney Weaver.

I guess her character would be funnier when her character bounces off the goofiness of another character.

The "gender controversy" is a wash. There are no hints in the movie that "men are evil, women rock". I'd say the movie just subverts certain movie tropes such as the eye candy secretary/blonde bimbo by changing the genders. And ironically enough, the funniest character in a movie supposedly about "women doing what men can do and even better" was played by Chris Hemsworth (Mike Hat).

It's an entertaining movie but not a good one. I would watch the sequel though because of the potential in the new take of the Ghostbusters concept. It's like the Robocop reboot all over again.

On a side note, The CGI of the ghosts were well-done and the designs were something I would expect from a proper Scooby Doo movie.

 

[bluejake01]

holy crap the 3D is phenomenal.

I was driving home from seeing it again, and wrote a version of this movie in my head that would have been nearly identical to the one we got, but I think would have worked better for Legacy fans and been successful. It's a pity really.

 

[Ironfan72]

Saw it yesterday and enjoyed it very much, I went in with an open mind, understanding that I had seen the original in theater when it opened, and had a really good time, found myself wanting to see more, still not a huge Melissa McCarthy fan but she was not bad in this, over all 8/10 for me, I would see it again and will buy it when it hits stores on DVD/Blueray.

 

[HopeOfTheFuture]

Still have to see it (hopefully next weekend) but can someone tell me if the cool GB tune from the trailers was in the movie or on the soundtrack. I really dig that tune.

 

[GuestStar2004]

To whoever who said Sony would greenlit a sequel at the end of the weekend, congratulations apparently you're right.

I think if this was just a remake that was just gonna be its own thing then they may think twice about a sequel but because they wanna start this ghostbusters universe they are gonna feel they need to make a sequel because they need this to be successful so the doors can open for more ghostbusters related stuff because if you abandon this reboot you might aswell just abandon any hope of this universe having any confidence for success.

And i am actually completely against the idea of a universe because i think it will drag the concept into the ground, i mean we have a women team reboot, a cartoon coming soon set in the future and the new video game thats set in what a ghostbusting school is it? and this is only the starting point for this!

Even though i am kinda glad ghostbusters is still a thing... i don't think i like this idea.

 

[MadVillainy]

http://www.thewrap.com/ghostbusters-sequel-will-happen-sony/

To whoever who said Sony would greenlit a sequel at the end of the weekend, congratulations apparently you're right.

I mean...you know that means nothing right?

FOX execs were talking to the press about a sequel to Fan4stic. In a less extreme example, Disney was talking about a Tron 3.

Execs saying: "Oh yeah a sequel will happen" doesn't hold much weight if the box office returns arent up to snuff

Opened at #2 with $45 million for the weekend, huh?
Yeah... this will be forgotten next week.
See you in the $5 Walmart bin in December.

The thing that sucks is that it wasn't a terrible movie by any means... I just wasn't blown away by it.

I dont think this will be $5 bin, but yeah for all this controversy this will go off quietly into the night and by next year people will barely discuss it.

Man, I wish I could just discuss this movie I really enjoyed.

Shame innit?

In essence people enjoyed the flick. Saw it twice and both times theatre was pretty full.

I think if people really enjoyed it there would have been a better box office return.
WOM could spread but with Star Trek, Bourne, and then Suicide Squad coming out and taking 3D theaters from GB16, I doubt this will make a bigger splash domestically

Feig just had his biggest opening weekend ever. Even if this film has a smaller multiplier than his previous movies, it could still do very, very well. And based at how my audience reacted, I think it will have pretty good WOM. Which it seems to be building, with the lack of drop from the Thur + Fri numbers to Sat numbers.

Again people really need to stop comparing this to Feigs other movies. This had a bigger production budget, bigger marketing budget, bigger everything. If this only makes as much or around what Feig's other movies make that won't be good. Saying this is Feig's biggest weekend doesn't mean much when the budget is much higher than Feig's movies.

It's not even about WOM, as I said above. This will lose theaters, especially 3D ones, to Star Trek, Suicide Squad, ICe Age 5 or whatever this is. Which will be a big blow. Star Trek is looking at 50-60 mill, last Ice Age made 45+ mill opening weekend (im still always surprised how well these Ice Age sequels do overall), and then Pets is still probably be decently big.

The only thing I think this really has going for it is that there arent many really hyped summer live action comedies left

I mean we'll see about the WOM, but with the competition I dont see this making GREAT numbers in the US. Not enough to justify a sequel

 

[Neno_Kos]

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/17/ghostbusters-opens-empty-theatres/

 

[GuestStar2004]

I think Sony will push for a sequel, its not just about profit for this one movie its about the profit of a universe of movies and sony really want franchises so expect so they will do what they can to keep this universe going.

 

[MadVillainy]

how is it not just about profit? Theyre a business.

Mediocre box office returns, mediocre toy sales (allegedly) show that there isn't any interest in the franchise.

Why would they continue even if they're desperate for a franchise, which they are? Many sequels, especially recently do worst than the first one. Unless they slash the budget, which would probably affect some of the stars coming back, I dont see them doing it as it stands now. This thing could have a huge second wind but I doubt it

Theyre a business, they care about profit. Especially SONY which isnt in the best place, they can't afford to spend money on "passion project" big blockbusters which is what a seuqel will be if they move forward


EDIT: Home video sales could help it too.

 

[GuestStar2004]

how is it not just about profit? Theyre a business.

Because sometimes you have to invest alot of money in order for it to pay off at some point and sony really want franchises so if they see a way of doing it which will increase box office... they will.

 

[Kanon]

Argentina Box Office (July 14-17, movies open on THU here, #s are tickets sold, not money)

ICE AGE 5 is on weekend #2, DORY is weekend #4, the others are openers

1-ICE AGE 5: 441.973 (405 screen)
2-FINDING DORY: 159.488 (227 screens)
3-THE PURGE 3: 131.582 (195 screens)
4-THE BIG FRIENDLY GIANT: 108.507 (219 screens)
5-GHOSTBUSTERS: 79.005 (220 screens)

http://www.ultracine.com/index.php/...ue-el-estreno-mas-visto-de-la-semana-28/?c=ar

 

[_Superman_]

how is it not just about profit? Theyre a business.

Mediocre box office returns, mediocre toy sales (allegedly) show that there isn't any interest in the franchise.

Why would they continue even if they're desperate for a franchise, which they are? Many sequels, especially recently do worst than the first one. Unless they slash the budget, which would probably affect some of the stars coming back, I dont see them doing it as it stands now. This thing could have a huge second wind but I doubt it

Theyre a business, they care about profit. Especially SONY which isnt in the best place, they can't afford to spend money on "passion project" big blockbusters which is what a seuqel will be if they move forward


EDIT: Home video sales could help it too.

There is an interest in the franchise. Just not in the one they're giving us and it doesn't help when they're (cast and director) putting down their fan base if they don't like the way this movie is being presented.

 

[Leenie]

Because of the way this movie has been advertised, I refuse to see it in theaters.

I might give it a chance at some point in the distant future. I'm just pretty disgusted by Sony, Paul Feig, and some of the cast. Who knows? They might have a good movie here ... But they decided to sell it in the most condescending and insulting way.

I don't like politics with my Summer blockbuster entertainment, thankyouverymuch.

"But, but your daughter can be a Ghostbuster now! That's what all of this is about."

Sit down. NOBODY can be a Ghostbuster. They're. Not. Real. And it's pretty insulting to insinuate that when I was a little girl, I wasn't able to enjoy the original Ghostbusters (which I did; a lot).

 

[Supernova]

I know theres interest just not in the one the studio pushed. The toys all looked terrible and the movie had bad trailers. The effects looked cheap like pixels and the jokes just werent good.

I still think a passing of the torch film would have been better. Have ray still living in the firehouse and discovers dormant ghost sightings are coming back and he needs to put together a new team since hes too old to continue.

Have ray training them and trying to hold them together and succeed where he failed. The team breaks up toward the end of film after the main villian ghost takes turns possesing the team members and have them say and di hurtful things to eachother. Ray has a talk with the new team leader and reveals he wasnt strong enough to save the original group and they died at the hands of the villian whos about to turn all living people into ghost.

New team reunites and stops the ghost.

 

[Leenie]

I know theres interest just not in the one the studio pushed. The toys all looked terrible and the movie had bad trailers. The effects looked cheap like pixels and the jokes just werent good.

I still think a passing of the torch film would have been better. Have ray still living in the firehouse and discovers dormant ghost sightings are coming back and he needs to put together a new team since hes too old to continue.

Have ray training them and trying to hold them together and succeed where he failed. The team breaks up toward the end of film after the main villian ghost takes turns possesing the team members and have them say and di hurtful things to eachother. Ray has a talk with the new team leader and reveals he wasnt strong enough to save the original group and they died at the hands of the villian whos about to turn all living people into ghost.

New team reunites and stops the ghost.

This movie undoubtedly should have been a sequel instead of a remake. A passing of the torch film would have easily worked.

[BLACKOUT]I've heard things about this new movie including a Harold Ramis cameo (where he's a ghost being busted)? If so, that is tacky as hell. All of the cameos are insulting to the originals, if you ask me.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[danoyse]

This movie undoubtedly should have been a sequel instead of a remake. A passing of the torch film would have easily worked.

[BLACKOUT]I've heard things about this new movie including a Harold Ramis cameo (where he's a ghost being busted)? If so, that is tacky as hell. All of the cameos are insulting to the originals, if you ask me.[/BLACKOUT]

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That's not in the film. There is a BUST of Harold Ramis in the hall of the university where Kristen Wiig's character works. There is not a Harold ghost that gets busted.