The Official "Admit you were wrong about Craig" thread

[Smegger56]

Craig is deffiantly BOND. And whoever said he didn't have the wit and charm. I saw it.

 

[rdh007]

I was wrong.

 

[xwolverine2]

i wanna hear it come from that superfan troll

 

[DACrowe]

Pfft.

Brosnan was amazing, anyone who says otherwise is nothing but a shortminded sheep to what publicity says.

Now you can prefer Craig, but Brosnan gave a damn fine performance. In fact, I wish he was given a movie as serious as CR. He definetly showed some very darker moments in his James Boind in every film. They just NEVER let him explore them, which eh wanted to. Brosnan was excellent in GE and TWINE and even in the abysimal DAD. I owuld list the merits of his performance but I've done that already and I find those who don't like him generally blind themselves to it because he is so "pretty."

They're loss. Craig may be rougher but he has yet to show the charm of Bodn that Brosnan had in spades, so I'll wait before I declare him better than Brosnan. And whoever wrote he was better than Connery, don't post again.

And btw Brosnan is hardly a bad actor. I mean c'mon, The Matador puts most of Craig's work to shame (and I love Munich but it was a small part and Bana was the powerhouse in that, Layer Cake was overrated and a poor man's Snatch too).

I don't care if you prefer Craig ot Brosnan (Connery is when we have problems) but to just bash Brosnan because a new actor has taken it is the same empty-headed fanboy mentality that was to bash Keaton after BB came out, and it annoys me to no end either.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Pfft.

Brosnan was amazing, anyone who says otherwise is nothing but a shortminded sheep to what publicity says.

Now you can prefer Craig, but Brosnan gave a damn fine performance. In fact, I wish he was given a movie as serious as CR. He definetly showed some very darker moments in his James Boind in every film. They just NEVER let him explore them, which eh wanted to. Brosnan was excellent in GE and TWINE and even in the abysimal DAD. I owuld list the merits of his performance but I've done that already and I find those who don't like him generally blind themselves to it because he is so "pretty."

They're loss. Craig may be rougher but he has yet to show the charm of Bodn that Brosnan had in spades, so I'll wait before I declare him better than Brosnan. And whoever wrote he was better than Connery, don't post again.

And btw Brosnan is hardly a bad actor. I mean c'mon, The Matador puts most of Craig's work to shame (and I love Munich but it was a small part and Bana was the powerhouse in that, Layer Cake was overrated and a poor man's Snatch too).

I don't care if you prefer Craig ot Brosnan (Connery is when we have problems) but to just bash Brosnan because a new actor has taken it is the same empty-headed fanboy mentality that was to bash Keaton after BB came out, and it annoys me to no end either.

I liked Brosnan in Goldeneye, but that is about it. In his defense it isn't his fault the material got dumber with each sequel.

I posted that Craig is better than Connery, I'll continue to post whenever I please. It's a matter of opinion and if you can't handle that particular opinion, then it's too bad which will result in you having to move on.

Craig IS Bond.

Craig was very charming as Bond. His exchanges with Vesper and Solange proved that he is a charmer. As I said, Goldeneye was the only good Bond film with Brosnan in it. It seems the material afterwards just got dumbed down with moronic gadgets, explosions, cliche one liners, and weak villains.

Brosnan isn't coming back, accept it and move on. Brosnan, Connery, and Moore have all stated that they like Craig and seemed he would be a great Bond. Neither of them are under contract and they can freely speak their minds.

The fact that they spoke very highly of Craig proves something.

 

[McGourgh]

I liked Brosnan in Goldeneye, but that is about it. In his defense it isn't his fault the material got dumber with each sequel.

I agree with that.
I´m not jumping the Brosnan is a bad Bond bandwagon, just cause Craig is the new Bond, even before CR was even announced, the only Brosnan Bond I was still watching was Goldeneye, cause the other ones are just mediocre. I´m not into this Bond as a superhero with hightech gadgets thing. It´s clearly not Brosnans fault, he could have been a great Bond on par with Connery, but thanks to those Hollywood hacks he never will be in my opinion.
Not saying the same won´t happen to Craig, I just hope they´ve learned from their mistakes.

 

[The Sage]

Pfft.

Brosnan was amazing, anyone who says otherwise is nothing but a shortminded sheep to what publicity says.

Now you can prefer Craig, but Brosnan gave a damn fine performance. In fact, I wish he was given a movie as serious as CR. He definetly showed some very darker moments in his James Boind in every film. They just NEVER let him explore them, which eh wanted to. Brosnan was excellent in GE and TWINE and even in the abysimal DAD. I owuld list the merits of his performance but I've done that already and I find those who don't like him generally blind themselves to it because he is so "pretty."

They're loss. Craig may be rougher but he has yet to show the charm of Bodn that Brosnan had in spades, so I'll wait before I declare him better than Brosnan. And whoever wrote he was better than Connery, don't post again.

And btw Brosnan is hardly a bad actor. I mean c'mon, The Matador puts most of Craig's work to shame (and I love Munich but it was a small part and Bana was the powerhouse in that, Layer Cake was overrated and a poor man's Snatch too).

I don't care if you prefer Craig ot Brosnan (Connery is when we have problems) but to just bash Brosnan because a new actor has taken it is the same empty-headed fanboy mentality that was to bash Keaton after BB came out, and it annoys me to no end either.

I agree, Brosnan was great.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I agree, Brosnan was great.

He could've been great with better material. In actuality Brosnan only proved how great he was and is in Goldeneye. Afterwards his performance suffered due to a horrible script. It's not his fault the hacks in Hollywood messed up a great thing after Goldeneye.

We'll never know how great Brosnan could've/would've been as Bond simply because the material he was given was horrible. It's a shame too.

But hey, I'm happy with Craig and I see him as Bond now. Just like I see Bale as Batman even though I am fond of Keaton and Kilmers depiction of Wayne/Batman.

 

[xwolverine2]

brosnan wasnt brutal or cold enough...... and he delivered every single line in the same tone of voice like the other bonds... it felt dry.
but brosnan is the best of the "magical bonds".......craig is perfect for the reality of it all

i could not see brosnan survive the bathroom fight

 

[DA Harvey Dent]

brosnan wasnt brutal or cold enough...... and he delivered every single line in the same tone of voice like the other bonds... it felt dry.
but brosnan is the best of the "magical bonds".......craig is perfect for the reality of it all

i could not see brosnan survive the bathroom fight

You know I agree with this. But I think Craig is too cold and ruthless at the expense of the charm and charisma that Bond should have.

 

[The Sage]

He could've been great with better material. In actuality Brosnan only proved how great he was and is in Goldeneye. Afterwards his performance suffered due to a horrible script. It's not his fault the hacks in Hollywood messed up a great thing after Goldeneye.

We'll never know how great Brosnan could've/would've been as Bond simply because the material he was given was horrible. It's a shame too.

But hey, I'm happy with Craig and I see him as Bond now. Just like I see Bale as Batman even though I am fond of Keaton and Kilmers depiction of Wayne/Batman.

It's funny, because the argument that Brosnan could've been great with better material completely complies with Kilmer. I still think Brosnan was great in all of his films despite the poor writing. One of my favorite moments of The World Is Not Enough is when Bond shoots Elektra dead. The cold-blooded assassin.

I like Craig, but I still love Brosnan and he was the Bond of my generation.

 

[Furious Styles]

And I couldn't see Sean Connery seduce May Day, and I couldn't see Roger Moore battle Sanchez atop a tanker, and I couldn't see Daniel Craig fight 006 and come out alive and I couldn't see Brosnan chase Mollaka.

What does that prove? They are all the same character, just enjoy the films for what they are!

 

[xwolverine2]

You know I agree with this. But I think Craig is too cold and ruthless at the expense of the charm and charisma that Bond should have.

so i guess your bond is the right one ............screw flemmings bond!

 

[Darthphere]

I was right all along, Craig is Bond.

 

[DorkyFresh]

when Craig was first cast, i wished they would've gone with someone else...because i was raised in a time when Bond was supposed to look like a pretty boy.

but i gave Craig a chance because it's not the looks that make a man, it's his actions...and boy did Craig provide the action!

he might not be my parents' (Sean Connery), or my older brother's Bond (Pierce Brosnan)...but he sure is my Bond.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I think all six 007s have been great.

 

[Agentsands77]

Brosnan was amazing, anyone who says otherwise is nothing but a shortminded sheep to what publicity says.

Way to just dismiss genuine, worthwhile opinions. I, for one, held this opinion for many years during the Brosnan era, when the "Brosnan is the best Bond since Connery" mantra was still in effect.

Now you can prefer Craig, but Brosnan gave a damn fine performance.

He was okay. He often overacted when he had to be dramatic, and couldn't deliver humor with any real nuance or subtelty.

They're loss. Craig may be rougher but he has yet to show the charm of Bodn that Brosnan had in spades, so I'll wait before I declare him better than Brosnan.

I think Craig has the Bondian charm to more than acceptable levels. That scene at The Ocean Club more than qualifies him for that, IMO. And that's not the only one. Craig's Bond was suave, charming, funny, tough, deadly, and dark.

And whoever wrote he was better than Connery, don't post again.

It's just as valid an opinion as any of yours.

And btw Brosnan is hardly a bad actor.

He's hardly awful, but he's hardly great, either.

I mean c'mon, The Matador puts most of Craig's work to shame (and I love Munich but it was a small part and Bana was the powerhouse in that, Layer Cake was overrated and a poor man's Snatch too).

Craig was phenomenal in INFAMOUS. So I'm not at all about to dismiss Craig's work. THE MATADOR was good, but it was Brosnan's *only* performance that actually showed some genuine talent and wasn't just coasting on a natural sense of charm.

I don't care if you prefer Craig ot Brosnan (Connery is when we have problems) but to just bash Brosnan because a new actor has taken it is the same empty-headed fanboy mentality that was to bash Keaton after BB came out, and it annoys me to no end either.

I bashed Brosnan before Craig. So I have more than enough license.

 

[Smegger56]

I honestly believe those who still childishly bash Daniel Craig are still bothered by the fact that he's BLOND. I really do.

BTW, I stuck with him, waiting to see the film before I passed my final Judgement (and also, i thought he'd be great before i saw any footage), and boy, i wasn't disapointed... he exceeded my expectations.

 

[Furious Styles]

I think all six 007s have been great.

Did you enjoy Lazenby's performance? I have a hard time coming to terms with that film in general. I think it should be considered Top 3, but I can't find myself giving credit to Lazenby.

 

[batman7289]

i was wrong

 

[zer00]

Exactly, agreed.

Casino Royale showed us the REAL Bond.

Brosnan = overrated especially by the idiot non-Bond fan housewives.

Go post in the Spidey-Boards.

That's the only place you don't seem ******ed.

 

[xOKxTrunks]

I was wrong about Craig, he's a good Bond.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

It's funny, because the argument that Brosnan could've been great with better material completely complies with Kilmer. I still think Brosnan was great in all of his films despite the poor writing. One of my favorite moments of The World Is Not Enough is when Bond shoots Elektra dead. The cold-blooded assassin.

I like Craig, but I still love Brosnan and he was the Bond of my generation.

I thought Brosnan's best moment was in Goldeneye when he dropped Alec during their climatic fight.

Everyone has a different perception on what they feel James Bond should be. I feel Casino Royale and Craig's performance is exactly how I've always seen Bond.

 

[Matt]

I thought Brosnan's best moment was in Goldeneye when he dropped Alec during their climatic fight.

Everyone has a different perception on what they feel James Bond should be. I feel Casino Royale and Craig's performance is exactly how I've always seen Bond.

"For England, James?"

"For me, Alec."

Damn that was a good scene, as were all his scenes with Sean.

I still say that the Brosnan era produced some THE best Bond villians.

Goldeneye - Alec Trevelyn, he was essentially the anti-Bond.

Tomorrow Never Dies - This movie gets a lot of slack, but it really is brilliant. A media mogul could, with enough power create reality. I thought it was great.

The World Is Not Enough - Both Renard and Elektra were great.

DADA - Well...the guy with the diamonds in his face was cool anyhow :-/

If there is one place CR was lacking, it was villian.

 

[Gold Samurai]

He could've been great with better material. In actuality Brosnan only proved how great he was and is in Goldeneye. Afterwards his performance suffered due to a horrible script. It's not his fault the hacks in Hollywood messed up a great thing after Goldeneye.

We'll never know how great Brosnan could've/would've been as Bond simply because the material he was given was horrible. It's a shame too.

But hey, I'm happy with Craig and I see him as Bond now. Just like I see Bale as Batman even though I am fond of Keaton and Kilmers depiction of Wayne/Batman.

I think Martin Campbell had alot to do with Brosnan's performance and why goldeneye is the only good bond movie of brosnan's reign. The rest of the directors couldn't emulate goldeneyes success

and Campbell once again hits it out of the ballpark with craig. Hire Campbell for bond 22!