Ant-Man The Official Ant-Man News and Speculation Thread - Part 1

[Ant-manic]

Yeah, *if* they make Jan the doctor that can cure Cassie, it'd be almost inevitable that she and Scott hook up, and I agree that it's a definite no-no.

paranoid much? I don't see it as inevitable (not that they'd make Jan the stand-in for Sondheim). it's not like Scott had a fling with Erica in the books. he didn't have any relationship until he was shoehorned into Jessica Jones' title. and I don't want (nor do I expect) Jan and Scott to hook up. the rumors we've been exposed to make it seem like Hank and Jan are an item. she's referred to as his wife and/or lover.

 

[Ant-manic]

Edgar said that he was expanding on To Steal An Ant-Man is his script. Stuff that was a couple of panels in the comic was pages of script.

I think the movie will be a cross between to Steal An Ant-Man and some of the Astonishing Ant-Man spy commie fighting stuff from the 1960's which Edgar mentioned he liked.

I wouldn't mind seeing Darren Cross as the main villain with and his cousin Crossfire as his bodyguard/chief henchman and Elias Starr (Egghead) as the head CTE scientist who gives Cross the experimental nucle-organic pacemaker. My only issue with Cross is he might come across as just another version of Aldrich Killian.

I don't think they should have Darren turn into a pink hulk/abomination style monster though.

They could have Elias Starr (Egghead) as one of the scientists
Edgar said something about liking villains that are derived from the heroes so that you don't have to take time out to develop a villains power origins.

Many of the villains in previous Marvel films powers or technology are from the same or from the heroes.

Hulk - Bruce Gamma mutated blood creates Abomination and The Leader
Iron Man - Arc and armour technology creates Iron Monger, Whiplash & Drones
Captain America - Faulty Super Soldier serum was used to create the Red Skull

I could see Edgar using villains who use a variation of the Pym particles or Ant-Man Cybernetic technology.

they could just be A.I.M scientists. they had to go somewhere after Stark crashed their party. and Elias could be one of them/have some past grudge with Pym.

 

[Dr. Evil]

AIM would connect the film into MCU without using Shield....just to prove that the MCU does not revolve around SHIELD as some claim.

 

[chamber-music]

I would like to see AIM as villains too.

 

[seahammer]

AIM would connect the film into MCU without using Shield....just to prove that the MCU does not revolve around SHIELD as some claim.

I would like to see AIM as villains too.

Agreed. There is no reason for them to cease to exist just because Killian is gone. Maybe they steal some Pym particles (or the science behind it) to grow a giant brain/head for a new leader. A "mental organism," if you will...

And I would like for at least a few AIM scientists to dress like this in the lab:

 

[Loki882]

If they look like that in a lab setting, cool. But that shouldn't be their standard uniform, it's difficult to take them seriously as a threat if you're too busy laughing at how stupid/goofy they look.

 

[chamber-music]

A standard yellow contamination suit would work fine in a AIM facility.

 

[seahammer]

If they look like that in a lab setting, cool. But that shouldn't be their standard uniform, it's difficult to take them seriously as a threat if you're too busy laughing at how stupid/goofy they look.

Yeah, that's what I mean. I don't know that they even need a "standard uniform", so I was thinking that would be a good way to work in their traditional look from the comics.

A standard yellow contamination suit would work fine in a AIM facility.

That's what I was going for. I googled "yellow radiation suit."

 

[Dark Raven]

Yeah, but the actual AIM yellow suits look cooler than just a yellow radiation or hazmat suit. They're better fitting, for a start, and their beekeeper helmets also look more mysterious and cool than goofy.

 

[Dr. Evil]

From Screenrant:

 

[Whiskey Tango]

lol

 

[TheAQU4M4N]

Jason Segel as Scott Lang? I can see that!

 

[seahammer]

Yeah, but the actual AIM yellow suits look cooler than just a yellow radiation or hazmat suit. They're better fitting, for a start, and their beekeeper helmets also look more mysterious and cool than goofy.

True, true.

From Screenrant:

haha that's good.

 

[Mr. Dent]

Jason Segel for Egghead

 

[fixxxer]

Rudd as Pym, Rashida Jones as Jan, JGL (or possibly Jamie Bell) as Lang. Move up Pym's days as an operative from the 60's to the 90's. Um, Beatles out, Alice in Chains in, and we're set.

 

[chamber-music]

Pym could of been as little Ant-Man 5 years ago if they want him to be a more contemporary character. You can still have Pym as a spy infiltrating North Korea or an Al Shabab base in Somalia or Ten Rings/Hydra/AIM/Roxxon bases. The way Edgar talked about it the 60's thing sounded more like an aesthetic choice rather than any thing to do with the actual story.

 

[fixxxer]

Pym could of been as little Ant-Man 5 years ago if they want him to be a more contemporary character. You can still have Pym as a spy infiltrating North Korea or an Al Shabab base in Somalia or Ten Rings/Hydra/AIM/Roxxon bases. The way Edgar talked about it the 60's thing sounded more like an aesthetic choice rather than any thing to do with the actual story.

Yea, they could do it that way and it would suit me perfectly fine. But Pym's heyday set in the 90's would let Wright explore a world that's just a little different from ours tonally while still having Pym young enough (say, mid-forties) in the current day to suit up with the Avengers when Thanos comes a-gauntleting in '18 or '19. To prominently involve Soundgarden, Smashing Pumpkins and the like is an aesthetic choice, dammit.

 

[Dark Raven]

Well when Wright originally wrote his script, the 1960s was feasible, but he's taken so long with actually getting into pre-production that he needs to realise that the 60s isn't just 10 years ago anymore.

 

[Brian Braddock]

If they look like that in a lab setting, cool. But that shouldn't be their standard uniform, it's difficult to take them seriously as a threat if you're too busy laughing at how stupid/goofy they look.

What - ridiculously garbed men cannot be considered as real, viable threats? Funny, I find that most of the dictators we've seen in the last 100 years look stupid/goofy when looking at them but it doesnt mean that I dont recognise that they werent scary as hell and capable of real evil.

People may appear stupid/goofy, until that time that they produce a death ray that melts the flesh off your bones, or a device that decimates an entire city and kills all if the life within. I think any ridicule the audience [may] have for A.I.M. guys in classic uniforms would dissappear once the gravity of their intentions become apparent.

 

[fixxxer]

Well when Wright originally wrote his script, the 1960s was feasible, but he's taken so long with actually getting into pre-production that he needs to realise that the 60s isn't just 10 years ago anymore.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[smashmode]

Saw this giff and i loved it:

 

[Ant-manic]

If they look like that in a lab setting, cool. But that shouldn't be their standard uniform, it's difficult to take them seriously as a threat if you're too busy laughing at how stupid/goofy they look.

you might be thinking about it wrong. those beekeeper helmets are intended to protect them while working in the lab. this is what A.I.M's terrorists/mercenaries wear out in the field...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tDRcPO9A8KQ/Tnb1-OVQPGI/AAAAAAAAM5I/QK5KeZdyiCk/s1600/CAP2V_002.jpg

^that is what convinced me that they were the perfect opponents for Ant-Man. they just have that "exterminator" vibe. Copiel is responsible for that design. he thought up something similar for Scott Lang during that era of the Avengers; creepy gas mask.




if they still intend to use "To Steal an Ant-Man" i think they should substitute George Tarleton for Darren Agonistes Cross. Tarleton could be some higher up in A.I.M masquerading as a legitimate CEO. i'd, personally, want John Noble (Fringe) to play Tarleton. if they use Hank, Jan, and Scott i think there should also be 3 main villains; Tarleton, Monica Rappaccini, and Elias Starr. seems like a lot of characters but we're not talking about special effects intensive. their all just colorful mad scientists. Tarleton could try to turn the tide of the fight by injecting himself with Pym particles. but it would instead deform him and take him out of the fight; setting him up as M.O.D.O.K in the future. maybe at the end, Rappaccini and the remnants of A.I.M could retrieve him and reveal that they've made some "improvements." Elias would probably die or go to prison.

 

[smashmode]

According to IGN, cast will be known before the end of the year, and Feige says Ant-man will be a 'heist' flick:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/23/kevin-feige-expect-ant-man-casting-news-before-year-is-out

Marvel Studios' president of production Kevin Feige explained to IGN, in an extended interview which you can watch at the bottom of the page, that the British director is currently in the Marvel offices every day "tweaking the drafts [of the script] with Joe Cornish... and we're crewing up and prepping. There should be cast announcements, probably before the end of the year."
He also went on to explain that Ant-Man, which is scheduled for a July 2015 release, won't be your regular super hero movie as it will straddle another genre entirely - the heist movie.

 

[chamber-music]

Glad to hear Joe Corinsh is still working with Edgar on this.

I wonder what Ant-man will be stealing or possibly rescuing/liberating?

Lang sneaked into CTE to rescue Dr Sondheim and Pym sneaked across the Iron Curtain to rescue his friend FBI agent Lee Kearns.

 

[H.U.S.T.L.E.]

From everything that's already been said about this movie of Wright taking inspiration from To Steal An Ant-Man, I could see the 'heist' being two parts really. Especially if they run with Lang's daughter being kidnapped, the first 1/3 of the movie can focus on Lang's efforts to take Pym's suit, with the last 2/3 of the movie being Pym & Lang working together to free his daughter.

Any way you slice it, I think it will be a nice departure from what Marvel has done so far. There may not be a super-villain as the main antagonist, but I could see AIM working well as the baddies here.