Ant-Man The Official Ant-Man News and Speculation Thread - Part 3

[Webfoot Hero]

Odd that Lilly has yet to read a script so close to filming but I'm sure she will soon.

 

[kosh33]

they are showing some Antman footage it seems

 

[Dr. Evil]

Odd that Lilly has yet to read a script so close to filming but I'm sure she will soon.

She may have read the old script, not the new one.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

She may have read the old script, not the new one.

Probably the case so it's not like she'll be going in blind to entire script.

 

[<(o_o)>]

Looks like Evangeline Lilly is playing Hope Van Dyne, a daughter of Hank Pym's. Stoll will be playing Darren Cross aka Yellowjacket.

So someone else is playing Janet/Wasp or is Janet Hope's mother so Hope would be a second generation Wasp?

 

[Loki882]

Yeah, I'm thinking that "Hope" is Wasp.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Because of my lack of knowledge of comic books, I'm going into Ant Man with an open mind.

 

[zeroapoc]

Yeah, I'm thinking that "Hope" is Wasp.

Pretty much a guarantee. As soon as Douglas was cast as Pym I knew we weren't getting a young Janet as Wasp.

 

[cph9fa]

Description of the Ant-Man footage from the live blog:

The footage begins as a shot moves through a lab.
We see beakers filled with colored liquids..
A glass cage with an anthill inside
We hear Rudd and Douglas talking
Pym tells Lang that he wants him to be Ant-Man because he's a regular guy
It sounds like he has no love lost for The Avengers
Rudd is terrified
"Geez Lang," says Pym, "You'd think someone only shrunk your balls."
It cuts to a rooftop. Ant-Man is there, tiny
It looks like he's being pursued by full-size people
An Ant lands and Lang climbs on his back, still terrified
Pym talks to Lang through the helmet, guiding him
It looks like the helmet is damaged and Lang is having some trouble
It looks like he's inside a computer maybe
Pym tells him to run and he jumps off a huge ledge
A flying Ant catches him as he falls and the logo comes up!

It's not clear to me whether this is actually part of the script, or just something specially-made for the con.

 

[Marathon]

So no Janet van Dyne or Hank Pym as Avengers. This 616 history disrespect slippery slope is becoming very dangerous (they are already having to retcon IM3), and is bitterly ironic for a studio which was formed - among other things - to prevent overly revisionist bullcrap in the cinematic medium.

Marvel Studios has done many good things, but this project has been a disgrace and a disaster.

 

[Loki882]

Guess what, this ISN'T the 616. These are FILMS, they are under ZERO obligations to follow the comics to the letter. In fact, I'd prefer that they NOT do that because it's boring. If I wanted that, then I'd just read the comics (which I do).

 

[Webfoot Hero]

So no Janet van Dyne or Hank Pym as Avengers. This 616 history disrespect slippery slope is becoming very dangerous (they are already having to retcon IM3), and is bitterly ironic for a studio which was formed - among other things - to prevent overly revisionist bullcrap in the cinematic medium.

Marvel Studios has done many good things, but this project has been a disgrace and a disaster.

The MCU has done many things away from the 616 universe so your outrage is a bit late to the party.

 

[Chris B]

I would've prefered it Lilly was actually playing Janet van Dye instead of "Hope," but its not a big deal.

 

[djsunyc]

evangeline lily, scarlett johanssen, cobie smoulders, the olsen girl...just a tremendous amount of visual talent. thanks marvel

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I'm divided. I'd prefer Hank and Jan to not be thrown under the bus like what appears to be happening but on the other hand the MCU is a new and separate continuity. I guess I'm about a 6 on the Fanboy Appeasement Chart:

Happy - - - - - ^ - - - - Enraged

 

[JJ01]

So Lang is not going to steal the suit? Sounds like Cassie was written out too.

 

[marvelrobbins]

At least they aren't making janet Into Hank's daughter and love Intrest of Lang

MCU Is cross between ultimate,616,and new ideas.

Now if only people would accept that about Fox and Sony too.

The Zach Snyder DC films are based more on elseworld stories like Superman Earth One
and Dark Knight returns than mainstream DC books too.

 

[marcvader]

Happy Lily is not Janet. At least Marvel didnt totally fubar the Hank and Jan relationship. There could now be the possibility of a flashback of them in their early days.

 

[<(o_o)>]

Because of my lack of knowledge of comic books, I'm going into Ant Man with an open mind.

Yes me also, I only know of the characters from watching the cartoons but I've always liked Ant-Man & Wasp. Good thing I like Douglas, Rudd & Lilly but with the way Marvel is changing things around so much in the first Ant-Man movie this could be their biggest gamble to date next to the Hulk movies.

 

[kosh33]

cassie could still be sick, and Lang could need the money to save her ...
he might be trying to steal Pym's suit, when Pym gets him and recruits him to be the next antman

 

[cph9fa]

I'm thinking there will still be a Hank/Janet relationship either in flashback, or at least implied. But I'm also thinking its quite possible that Janet never becomes the Wasp, and that Hope becomes the Wasp instead.

Reading about the alternate universe Hope, maybe she's jealous that her Dad (Pym) chose Lang to be his successor instead of her?

 

[Son of Coul]

Some more dialogue from Collider's description:

Accompanied by a voiceover conversation between Rudd&#8217;s Lang and Douglas&#8217; Pym, the footage opened with a shot tracking through a lab. Douglas sounded like he was trying to convince Rudd to do something, saying &#8220;Superheroes&#8212;what a goddamn joke. You&#8217;re doing this because it&#8217;s the right thing to do.&#8221;
Reluctantly, Pym agrees (again, in voiceover only), and we then saw Ant-Man running along a rooftop in ant-sized form. He was wearing an updated version of the suit, but since he&#8217;s a novice, Lang appeared to have some trouble operating it correctly as Pym talked him through it, saying, &#8220;Use the helmet to call the ants.&#8221; We saw him jump on top of a flying ant as alarms sounded, and Ant-Man then flew off through the city.

Read more at http://collider.com/ant-man-comic-con-panel-recap/#RdgooHEvPjeHDwuP.99

 

[cph9fa]

Another clip from the liveblog I meant to post earlier. Plot details:

Douglas confirms that there's a heist and that he's mentoring Rudd to take over as Ant-Man
Douglas says that Corey's Darren Cross has taken the company in an evil direction so he recruits Rudd to be the new Ant-Man
Stoll is Douglas' business partner
He takes the company Pym runs in "a different direction"
Stoll says Cross was Hank Pym's mentee
Now he's taken over the company. He says some people think of the direction as "evil," but he's just taking it into the future
Stoll WILL become Yellowjacket in the film, Feige confirms

 

[DyeLorean]

Can I post the logo? Or is that prohibited too?

 

[Marvel Spider]

I wonder if Edgar directed the footage. He probably did.