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Discussion in 'Batman World' started by Thread Manager, Mar 29, 2014.
TLJ's thoughts on Jim Carrey
I sympathise with TLJ there. I still have a lot of nostalgic fondness for his work (including the Riddler), but Carrey IRL is undoubtedly a major d*uche. Actually I was watching Forever recently, and I even thought to myself that TLJ must've had a lot of fun in their meeting scene where he throws Carrey up against a wall and puts a gun to his head.
Memorable although in a pretty bad way, strikingly telling that this Two-Face wouldn't be dark or subdued or taken seriously.
That one I did like as a guilty pleasure.
VERRRRY PUNCTUAL, EVEN FOR HIS OWN FUNERAL
And me! AAAAAND ME!!!
Speaking as someone who considers himself to be a big fan of both the Alien and Batman film franchises, I simply did not know this:
H.R. Giger Designed an Unused Batmobile for ‘Batman Forever’ and It Was Basically a Xenomorph Mobile
I wonder how that would have been received if it had made it to the screen.
That **** looks like a sea monster or something
Well it looks like it would have been really hard to turn corners.
Looks like a futuristic submarine.
Except for the nipples.
I have this exact action figure along with Batman wearing the Sonar Suit.
If that cut exists, I think the fans deserve to see it.
How do you explain the deleted scenes that WERE released?
If the footage still exists, I think the fans deserve to see it the way it was originally intended. It might also redeem Joel Schumacher in the eyes of Batmaniacs out there. My only regret is that Joel won't be able to see it happen.
It actually looks much better than with all the crazy neons
What if Rene Auberjonois (seen very briefly as an Arkham psychologist in BF) had actually played Jonathan Crane/the Scarecrow in a Schumacher Batman film, instead of one of the villains in BF or B&R or in a fifth film? The studio and probably Schumacher himself would have preferred a villain be played by a bigger-name actor but I think he could have done the role well in either a somewhat goofy or more dark version.
JUST when I wanted to rewatch this, they take it off of HBO Max.
Gotta love Hollywood, an actress 5 years older than Val Kilmer was deemed to old to play his love interest but an actress 8 years younger was PERFECT age.
Given the issues bts with Justice League, interesting to look back at the bts issues with this film. Val was reported to be a glorified brat and TLJ was a trouble maker.
Dude I just watched this on Netflix, while Batman 89 was on TV just the other day. In all honesty, as much as I liked Forever back in the day, seeing it now it's almost unwatchable - even with my nostalgia glasses on. There's no comparison between Batman 1989 and Forever, 89 is a vastly superior film.
Jim Carrey's OTT is amusing at times but TLJ is simply terrible. That and the effects look bad, even for 1995. I'm too afraid to rewatch Batman and Robin, although I recall hating it in the cinema.
Schumacher was less than complimentary about Kilmer and TLJ.
Joel Schumacher Says Val Kilmer Was 'Psychotic' and Tommy Lee Jones Was Not Kind to Jim Carrey on The Set of BATMAN FOREVER — GeekTyrant
Oh come on now. Unwatchable? Your bar must be Godfather levels high if you think Forever is unwatchable.
Well....I like to think not, I have plenty of guilty pleasure films that aren't particularly good. Maybe "unwatchable" is too strong. What I'm trying to say is that I enjoyed Forever back in 95, but having seen it a couple of times since then....it's gotten worse with age. I remember seeing it ( in French) while in France in 2008, on TV and thinking " Wow, this really isn't that good" ( believe it or not the overdubbed Two Face was actually better).
But after seeing some really good Batman stuff ( even animated) Forever comes off as incredibly OTT, and not in a way that's particularly clever or effective. Back in 95 Jim Carrey and his style of comedy were the rage - but even he's evolved.
I mean even the ridiculous amount of neon was a bit much back then. I guess for me Forever has aged really poorly - compared to 89, which although a bit dated, has aged really well.
Luckily I have the dvds since these arent anywhere else right now so I rewatched it last night.
I think for Riddler, it all worked. Of course ive seen a lot of past reviews compare him to Joker with his portrayal.
It's funny to think that we had Drew Barrymore in this as Sugar and giving 2-face two girlfriends for each side...I feel like nowadays Sugar and Spice would be a hit with the audience and good comic additions.
Chris O'Donnell was definitely the stand out imo, decent (though a bit rushed) transition into Robin. They did a good job of translating the costume. He definitely could've lead his own spin off film.
Agree that Chris O'Donnell was one of the best parts of the film.
By an interesting coincidence Batman Returns is on TV right now, and while not as good IMO as Batman 89, and a bit too dark( with the proposed massacre of children), it's a much more enjoyable film than Forever. Michelle Pfeiffer will always be my favorite Catwoman!
Wow ! Keaton and Pfeiffer had more chemistry in one of their scenes than Kilmer and Kidman did in their whole film.