The Official Boxing Thread!!! - Part 2

[Docker2.0]

GGG is begging to fight a cruiserweight in Chavez, who hydrates to who knows what on fight night. I'm just saying, the most feared man in boxing is b.s. His division sucks, which isn't his fault but there's nothing there. Plus he said he'd fight anyone from 154-175. Hopkins is in one of those weight classes he called out. So is Lara and so is Ward. Dude is living proof that if you say something long enough, people will believe it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

GGG is begging to fight a cruiserweight in Chavez, who hydrates to who knows what on fight night. I'm just saying, the most feared man in boxing is b.s. His division sucks, which isn't his fault but there's nothing there. Plus he said he'd fight anyone from 154-175. Hopkins is in one of those weight classes he called out. So is Lara and so is Ward. Dude is living proof that if you say something long enough, people will believe it.

GGG wants to fight Chavez because of money. He has said it repeatedly. He'd fight Chavez at 168 because it would be worth the money to him. It is not hard to understand. And I don't think he ever said anything about fighting anyone at 175. 168? Yes. I am a Lara fan, but he isn't worth anything in terms of prestige or money. And you are dead wrong on his rep. The vast majority are dodging him, and it is real.

And Ward needs to shut his mouth as long as he is going to continue to duck Kovalev. Heck, duck the ring. Dude just got stripped of the Ring belt due to inactivity. What a joke.

 

[Docker2.0]

Wait! So GGG says he will fight anyone 154-175, and now that he gets called out for it, people need to shut up?! There are only two guys who are ducking him: Cotto who isn't a middleweight and should give up the belt and Canelo, who I honestly don't think is ducking him. I'm not a big Canelo fan but he has fought people that his handlers have begged him not to, including Lara who GGG doesn't have the balls to face. It kills me when people say that Lara brings nothing to the table but Boxcino's Willie does!? Are you serious!? Lara has a name and pulse, something the guys GGG have fought don't have.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Lara is a name but Lara is no money. Same with all the Cubans unfortunately. Rigondeaux has to go on a tour of East Asia just for fight's that will give him the money he want's.

 

[Docker2.0]

Lara is a name but Lara is no money. Same with all the Cubans unfortunately. Rigondeaux has to go on a tour of East Asia just for fight's that will give him the money he want's.

I get that but Willie Robinson is? He hasn't fought a guy with a pulse even though he's been called out for it. And again, dude is either 32 or 33 so it's not like he has a ton of time left. He hasn't fought a big name boxer yet but yet is being portrayed as some monster. Dude is a very flawed fighter and he's saved by his power.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Wait! So GGG says he will fight anyone 154-175, and now that he gets called out for it, people need to shut up?! There are only two guys who are ducking him: Cotto who isn't a middleweight and should give up the belt and Canelo, who I honestly don't think is ducking him. I'm not a big Canelo fan but he has fought people that his handlers have begged him not to, including Lara who GGG doesn't have the balls to face. It kills me when people say that Lara brings nothing to the table but Boxcino's Willie does!? Are you serious!? Lara has a name and pulse, something the guys GGG have fought don't have.

Andre Ward needs to keep quiet because he hasn't have a relevant fight since 2011. He has literally wasted every bit of the star power he gained from the Super 6. He is a high risk fight for no reward. If Ward is all about the fight, all about the challenge, he would have moved up to 175 a long time ago. There is no one at 168. GGG has relevant fights at 160.

I love Lara. One of my favorite fighters. He worth nothing to GGG. He is far more risk then reward.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I get that but Willie Robinson is? He hasn't fought a guy with a pulse even though he's been called out for it. And again, dude is either 32 or 33 so it's not like he has a ton of time left. He hasn't fought a big name boxer yet but yet is being portrayed as some monster. Dude is a very flawed fighter and he's saved by his power.

He has fought every relevant fight at 160. Just because you don't know the names doesn't mean he hasn't fought the best at 160. You talk about Cotto being blown up, what would a Lara fight be but another blown up 154 guy?

 

[Docker2.0]

We are talking in circles. I get that Lara isn't any money but Willie Robinson is? That's why a lot of people are killing this guy because he's not keeping his promises of taking all customers to the bank. Lara would seriously silence those critics.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

We are talking in circles. I get that Lara isn't any money but Willie Robinson is? That's why a lot of people are killing this guy because he's not keeping his promises of taking all customers to the bank. Lara would seriously silence those critics.

You seem to not understand the obvious point. Most likely, GGG will kick the crap out of Willie Robinson, keep his KO streak alive, and continue to be the hottest ticket at 160 with HBO's backing.

And who is killing him? Who relevant is killing GGG? HBO is all over him and as it the majority of legit boxing writers.

 

[Docker2.0]

He has fought every relevant fight at 160. Just because you don't know the names doesn't mean he hasn't fought the best at 160. You talk about Cotto being blown up, what would a Lara fight be but another blown up 154 guy?

I know the guys he has fought and they are average at best with the exception of Showtime Stevenson who looked like a midget beside GGG but yet hit him at will. It's why I've stated numerous times, if he fought Chavez Jr, my money would be on Chavez to knock him out.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I know the guys he has fought and they are average at best with the exception of Showtime Stevenson who looked like a midget beside GGG but yet hit him at will. It's why I've stated numerous times, if he fought Chavez Jr, my money would be on Chavez to knock him out.

And you would be crazy. Murray was a very good fight by the way, and he crushed him, horribly.

 

[Docker2.0]

Murray also had no power, the same as Willie. GGG's defense sucks which is why I think Chavez will ko him. And I know hbo will protect their cash cow, the same they did for Donaire who got exposed. They clearly have an agenda. But a lot of fans are starting to open their eyes about GGG. He's beating bums and has fought no one of note in his career.

 

[Doc Samson]

Andre Ward needs to keep quiet because he hasn't have a relevant fight since 2011. He has literally wasted every bit of the star power he gained from the Super 6. He is a high risk fight for no reward. If Ward is all about the fight, all about the challenge, he would have moved up to 175 a long time ago. There is no one at 168. GGG has relevant fights at 160.

Andre Ward doesn't need to keep quiet about anything because he's not the one who continues to talk about a possible fight, it's GGG's trainer. Dude comes out of his mouth anytime GGG has a fight and mentions the same people, Ward chief amongst them. Andre has said, on various occasions, that their camp shouldn't say his name if they don't really want to fight, so it's not him or GGG really, it's Abel Sanchez...

 

[Docker2.0]

Andre Ward doesn't need to keep quiet about anything because he's not the one who continues to talk about a possible fight, it's GGG's trainer. Dude comes out of his mouth anytime GGG has a fight and mentions the same people, Ward chief amongst them. Andre has said, on various occasions, that their camp shouldn't say his name if they don't really want to fight, so it's not him or GGG really, it's Abel Sanchez...

There was an article a few days ago with Sanchez running his mouth yet again. GGG is not going to get a Cotto fight EVER. Cotto isn't a middleweight. I do believe Canelo will happen but not for another year. I do think Quillen is afraid of GGG so that's another fight that won't happen any time soon. GGG's best bet it to fight some guys bigger and smaller than him in order for him to earn some respect. If the rumors are correct and he is killing Koveluv in sparring, I don't what the deal is about fighting guys smaller than the light heavyweight champion. The only fight I can see him getting with a big name is JCC and I honestly don't see him beating him.

 

[Fallen Angel]

We can all agree the Middleweight division is rubbish at the moment. We have Cotto who is no where near being a legitimate Middleweight being the WBC champ and other than Golovkin there's really nobody else. Golovkin has come around at a time where the division is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Wait! So GGG says he will fight anyone 154-175, and now that he gets called out for it, people need to shut up?! There are only two guys who are ducking him: Cotto who isn't a middleweight and should give up the belt and Canelo, who I honestly don't think is ducking him. I'm not a big Canelo fan but he has fought people that his handlers have begged him not to, including Lara who GGG doesn't have the balls to face. It kills me when people say that Lara brings nothing to the table but Boxcino's Willie does!? Are you serious!? Lara has a name and pulse, something the guys GGG have fought don't have.

Again? Really? Look, Lara is ass, he had his biggest fight in his career last year, his big shot at stardom and he ran. RAN, ran the entire night, ran the entire fight. Lara brings nothing to the table.

And Ward? When is his next fight? You say Willie Monroe is a joke fight? Well rumor is Ward may be fighting Ricardo Mayorga. LOL now that's a joke of a fight if there ever was. , but GGG can't help Cotto lost his balls and is holding the division hostage.

GGG wants to unify the division, he wants to get all the belts and be THE man at 160, can't fault him for that.

GGG's done more since 2011 that Ward has. Ward squandered his opportunity at greatness, now he's desperate to get it back. You keep mentioning GGG's age, well what about Ward? He's 31 and not doing sh**! He wants smaller guys for big money. He knows he'd get his sh** pushed in by Kovalev. Kovalev would brutalize him bad, very bad and Ward and his fans know it, which is why NOBODY ever mentions his name when talking bout Ward, it's always GGG.

I know the guys he has fought and they are average at best with the exception of Showtime Stevenson who looked like a midget beside GGG but yet hit him at will. It's why I've stated numerous times, if he fought Chavez Jr, my money would be on Chavez to knock him out.

Gee I wonder why? You're racial biased is showing again.

Martin Murray is better than anyone Ward has fought since Froch yes I know it's only two (zombie Dawson and taxi cab driver Rodriguez). Infact Murray should've been the champion in the division and everyone who saw his fight vs Martinez knew Martinez lost.

Murray, Stevens, Rubio, Macklin, Ishida, are all better than zombie Dawson and Rodriguez.

Ward needs to prove himself now to get a big payday.

 

[Docker2.0]

We can all agree the Middleweight division is rubbish at the moment. We have Cotto who is no where near being a legitimate Middleweight being the WBC champ and other than Golovkin there's really nobody else. Golovkin has come around at a time where the division is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Agreed. I think it's in his own best interest to move up because even if he unifies the belts, there is no one there at all.

And can someone please see if they find anything remotely racist with any of my post. I swear, some of the things that some people come up with.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Agreed. I think it's in his own best interest to move up because even if he unifies the belts, there is no one there at all.

And can someone please see if they find anything remotely racist with any of my post. I swear, some of the things that some people come up with.

So you want GGG to move up without unifying the division because the division is barren.

Yet Ward, who has been in the same division for years, you he and everyone of his fans want him to stay in the same barren division hoping GGG will move up and don't even want to mention Kovalev or any of the other 175ers.

Also you said everyone that GGG fought were average at best except for Stevens. I'll repeat myself, gee I wonder why

 

[Fallen Angel]

Andre Ward back in the ring on June 20th in Oakland.

Expect only his family and entourage to turn up.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I was browsing around OnDemand last night and saw a commercial for some new boxing league that has no rigns. Seemed like a cool idea. Anybody heard of this? I think it's called BKB or BKG

 

[Doc Samson]

Andre Ward back in the ring on June 20th in Oakland.

Expect only his family and entourage to turn up.

Until I see a legitimate offer from a Chavez Jr. or GGG to fight, and Ward turns it down strictly to stay in Oakland, then I'll be the first to criticize him for it.

But until he gets a fight with a bigger name, he honestly won't fill seats anywhere other than Oakland. And from what I've seen, neither of those guys, (or Froch for that matter) are all that anxious to get in the ring with him.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He can't even pull 10,000 in his hometown. He has apparently been rejected by both HBO and Showtime already. Wants too much money to fight a nobody apparently. Ward is a tragic joke. Froch offered him a rematch, and Wade suddenly forgot how to speak English.

 

[Docker2.0]

He can't even pull 10,000 in his hometown. He has apparently been rejected by both HBO and Showtime already. Wants too much money to fight a nobody apparently. Ward is a tragic joke. Froch offered him a rematch, and Wade suddenly forgot how to speak English.

Dwayne Wade boxes now?!



Looking forward to PBC tonight. Haymon has done a good job with boxing thus far this year. Cue the haters.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Haymon isn't exactly a good man, but I am a big fan of PBC. Hopefully this continues in a strong manner.

 

[Docker2.0]

WTF!!?? Just found out PBC is on now...........at 3pm!!! I was about to play basketball until I just happen to cut the tv on and it's there. I thought I could watch it later with some alcohol.