First Avenger The Official Captain America Box Office Thread! - Part 1

[Mysteryman]

I still believe a sequel will happen.
If Cap does end up at 24.9 that puts it only 2 million behind Thors take at this point of its release .

 

[Rock Sexton]

People want to watch and enjoy quality movies, but they don't want to help support them by paying for a ticket. It's really sad.

Surfer

Are there some people who cheap out and do that? Yes. But for a film like this they're just selling themselves short because the quality and experience is vastly different. Most people that I know who watch internet copies, do so AFTER they've already seen the film in the theater.

I myself have seen the movie 3 times in the theater. I've also seen the "cam" copy that's being streamed on the net on some sites.

 

[Marvel]

No, i'm a fan of action movies.

But Inglorious Basterds wasn't an action movie. And if you found it boring because of the lack of action, then well, you fail.

I enjoyed Basterds myself but if anyone thinks that Tarantino's dialogue doesn't border on the juvenile in that film, then they are fooling themselves. Spider-X compared Basterds and Cap to The Godfather and Iron Man above but that's silly. It's more like Sin City vs Iron Man. Stylized cinema taking on old school balanced fun. Or staying in the Gangster film comparisons.... Basterds is the Carlito's Way/Scarface to Cap's Once Upon A Time In America. The only edge I give Basterds is that Waltz's villain beats the Red Skull.

 

[superion]

A bigger weekend drop was expected due to the bigger weekday takes than Thor. But to secure a sequel it is going to have to do $200 million or more overseas as well.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I forgot how delightful you can be. Are you capable of posting without veiled insults?

Whiskey ... c'mon ..... LOL ....

 

[Mysteryman]

Do we have overseas numbers for the weekend yet ?

 

[rashad]

Probably around 3 or 4pm ET.

 

[rogue trooper]

Do we have overseas numbers for the weekend yet ?

$9,763,120

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=captainamerica.htm

 

[ddddeeee]

I still believe a sequel will happen.
If Cap does end up at 24.9 that puts it only 2 million behind Thors take at this point of its release .

Thor got a sequel because of it's overseas numbers. It's domestic performance was moderate at best.

 

[Rock Sexton]

thor got a sequel because of it's overseas numbers. It's domestic performance was moderate at best.

edit: N/m

 

[Flemm]

Thor got a sequel because of it's overseas numbers.

Doubtless the strong overseas performance made a sequel a lock but I doubt it needed to do almost 270 million overseas to be in sequel territory. Part of that is gravy.

 

[wobbly]

$9,763,120

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=captainamerica.htm

Showing at $53,500,000 at the top now?

No breakdown other than Italy though.

 

[Electrix]

BOM now says CA made $53.5 million.

Thor had an opening of $83 million in 56 markets. How many had CA opened to this weekend?

Update: Found this from BOM last week.

Captain expands in to 23 markets next weekend, including the U.K., Russia, Brazil, Mexico, Australia and South Korea.

 

[wobbly]

BOM now says CA made $53.5 million.

Thor had an opening of $83 million in 56 markets. How many had CA opened to this weekend?

Quite a bit less I think. Thor opened in most countries around the same time. Cap is a bit more staggered.

 

[Jennn]

"Internationally, Captain America grossed $48.5 million from 31 foreign territories this weekend. That places the film's international total at $53.5 million and worldwide total at $170.3 million. Key international debuts included $8.5 million in Mexico, $6.8 million in Brazil, $5.0 million, $4.9 million in the United Kingdom and Ireland and $4.0 million in Russia."
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/bo_numbers/studio_estimate/2011-07-31

It had a bigger opening weekend than Thor in Mexico and Brazil. And a lower opening weekend in the UK, Russia and South Korea. (I don't know what country the 5M is from.)

It was never going to do as well as Thor in Russia and South Korea, so those numbers aren't surprising. And I get the feeling Potter is still kicking hard in the UK. But it did really well in Latin America.

Despite this weekend's decline, Captain America has already grossed an estimated $116.77 million through ten days of release. That places the film 2 percent behind the pace of Thor and 19 percent ahead of X-Men: First Class at the same point in their respective runs.

I see it doing just as well at Thor domestically.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

I'm sorry, but to even suggest Cap is even in the same ball park in terms of story and quality of Basterds is hilarious. In all seriousness I don't even know why the two films are being compared, they're completely different, the only similarity is they're set in WW2, you may as well be comparing Cap to Hogans Heroes.

I realize that Inglourious Basterds received lots of critical acclaim, and it has some of the most intricate dialogue I've ever seen in a movie. But honestly, in my own personal opinion? Captain America is a far neater, better structured story and piece of entertainment.

I actually think Basterds' story structure was rather lousy, and that the writing was very undisciplined and indulgent. You could just tell Quentin was having all the fun he could with his word play. Which appeals to certain people and it's fine if they like that. But Basterds is a movie where the first 25 minutes consist of the villain and some nobody sitting at a table talking about crap. Where a good half hour if not more is spent on a few of the Basterds messing around inside the tavern. The movie wasn't really even that interested in moving along and telling a story, and its "story" consisted of maybe 4 or 5 main scenes that were really dragged out.

Also, I hated the protaganists in that movie and found them unsympathetic and lacking in humanity. God, Brad Pitt tortures a female teammate by sticking his fingers in her bullet wounds just because he mistakenly suspects her of wrong doing.

Just my opinion.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

I'm really surprised and disappointed to hear about the massive 2nd weekend drop for Cap. This was IMO the best Marvel Studios movie since the first Iron Man. Reviews were good, and word of mouth was probably a lot stronger than it was for the other three superhero movies this year. Audience polling by CinemaScore showed that Cap drew in more young people than the others, and that audiences gave this movie an overall "A-" grade. That is almost as good as the grades that Iron Man got. In comparison, Thor and First Class got "B+" grades, while Green Lantern got a "B."

Without knowing the exact numbers, I don't know if pirate downloads can be blamed for Cap's drop. At least not anymore than they can be blamed for any movie's drops.

Then again, looking at the new releases this week I guess we shouldn't be that surprised. Most weeks have two new major releases; some weeks only have one. But this week had THREE: Smurfs, Cowboys and Aliens, and Crazy Stupid Love. All of them are projected to finish this weekend with decent numbers.

Smurfs takes away the kiddie and family audiences. Cowboys and Aliens, a genre film with a quirky premise and fanboy favorite stars, takes away the geek and male action-seeker audiences. Crazy Stupid Love takes any of the female audience that Cap might have gotten, as well as any guys who have to follow along with what their girlfriends want to see.

Harry Potter (again, the kid audience) is also going extremely strong in its third weekend, estimated to make nearly $22 million, not far below what Cap is making this week.

Overall, this was just an extremely brutal weekend in terms of competition.

 

[hatebox]

Considering Cowboys really underperformed, that is a bad second weekend for Cap. There's no way to spin that number positively. But it's premature talking about an a sequel until we see how the Avengers is received. Thor got a sequel because overseas did better than expected, but if Cap doesn't have a similar ratio then they'll have to wait and see the character's reception in Avengers.

 

[Mysteryman]

Yeah and Cap held up pretty well.
Third place isnt bad if you consider that Crazy Stupid Love debuted in 5th place.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

Considering Cowboys really underperformed, that is a bad second weekend for Cap. There's no way to spin that number positively.

Things have to be taken into context. Cowboys and Aliens' estimated $36.2 million weekend is a bad debut for a movie with a $163 million budget. Universal has got to be disappointed with that.

But from Cap's perspective? $36.2 million, along with the same amount going to Smurfs, $19 million going to Crazy Stupid Love, and Harry Potter still making $21 million in its 3rd week (good enough to be a decent debut for a modest movie) is a lot of lost box office. It's not that any of these new films has done exceptionally well, it's the sheer number of films that Cap is competing with right now for the same audiences (kids, families, and fanboys).

EDIT:
Put another way, had this been a regular weekend with just 2 new releases, but the same amount of box office, Cap would be up against a new movie with a $72.4 million debut (combining Smurfs and Cowboys). Which is huge and better than any superhero film has done this year.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I realize that Inglourious Basterds received lots of critical acclaim, and it has some of the most intricate dialogue I've ever seen in a movie. But honestly, in my own personal opinion? Captain America is a far neater, better structured story and piece of entertainment.

I actually think Basterds' story structure was rather lousy, and that the writing was very undisciplined and indulgent. You could just tell Quentin was having all the fun he could with his word play. Which appeals to certain people and it's fine if they like that. But Basterds is a movie where the first 25 minutes consist of the villain and some nobody sitting at a table talking about crap. Where a good half hour if not more is spent on a few of the Basterds messing around inside the tavern. The movie wasn't really even that interested in moving along and telling a story, and its "story" consisted of maybe 4 or 5 main scenes that were really dragged out.

Also, I hated the protaganists in that movie and found them unsympathetic and lacking in humanity. God, Brad Pitt tortures a female teammate by sticking his fingers in her bullet wounds just because he mistakenly suspects her of wrong doing.

Just my opinion.

To each his own. But I think you're insane to being comparing the story structures. Captain America was a fun movie, but nowhere near GB on that level.

 

[KangConquers]

For the record, Thor's combined openings in the 23 markets Cap opened in this weekend was 53.3 Million...so Cap doing 48.8 Million in those markets (as long as it opens just as well in other foreign markets) would give it a possibility at hitting 90% of Thor's 270 Million foreign.

So before you start *****ing, and whining and complaining...this is where Cap looks like it's going right now:

Domestic: 150-180 Million
Foreign: 200-250 Million

for 350-430 Million worldwide.

So shut up and enjoy the ride, you worry trolls! Cap 2 is coming!

 

[ClarkLuther55]

To each his own. But I think you're insane to being comparing the story structures.

Why? They're both movies. I said myself that Basterds had a very different structure.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Without knowing the exact numbers, I don't know if pirate downloads can be blamed for Cap's drop. At least not anymore than they can be blamed for any movie's drops.

Not a chance.

 

[hatebox]

Sorry, a 62% drop isn't good in any way. If Cowboys opened to over over 50m I'd be more charitable but that movie's already in flop territory. Like I said, a lot depends on the reception of The Avengers but if we're just talking about this weekend it's underwhelming at best.