The Official Colossus/Daniel Cudmore thread

[MoPlaYa]

Cool

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I think Colossus might be a little too old for interactions with a 13-year old sister to be interesting.

Like I said, I'm thinking she should have an image makeover in the movie. I'm thinking the character could be late teens (actress could be 20's if she can play a believable teenager), dark brown hair like Daniel, and very Russian looks. I was thinking Anna Nalick.

Now, isn't that a much more believable little sister for Mr. Cudmore? I love that look for the part; plus, she's not only the right look for the part IMO: she's also the right size. She's only 5'2", which means that Daniel's gonna tower over her (even moreso than with others). Tinier makes her look younger, weaker, and more vulnerable. Daniel being so much bigger makes the whole "protective" thing fit to a T.

Yeah but that also assumes that they get enough screen time to develop her. I'm more partial to casting someone younger rather than older because I felt the dynamic was stronger with her being a child and him an teenager. Or maybe when can have her to grow throughout the films....

 

[ToriL90]

Yeah but that also assumes that they get enough screen time to develop her. I'm more partial to casting someone younger rather than older because I felt the dynamic was stronger with her being a child and him an teenager. Or maybe when can have her to grow throughout the films....

Actually, part of the reason I want her to have a different look is because I don't think she should be a very developed character. Given that I only want her in a handful of scenes, the actress needs to provide a "visual aid", so to speak, for her role. With a tiny girl like Anna Nalick, who also bears some resemblance to Cudmore, it would take only a couple scenes to establish their relationship. If you had a girl who looked like a 13-year old Scarlett Johansson (or whoever you think comic Illyana looks like), the relationship would be MUCH more difficult to establish.

I noticed that you said you preferred child-teenager relationship. Well, it's already too late for that, 'cause movie Colossus is in his 20's. If he were in his teens, I'd agree that Illyana should be like 13; but with him being older, the age discrepancy would be too great.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Actually, part of the reason I want her to have a different look is because I don't think she should be a very developed character. Given that I only want her in a handful of scenes, the actress needs to provide a "visual aid", so to speak, for her role. With a tiny girl like Anna Nalick, who also bears some resemblance to Cudmore, it would take only a couple scenes to establish their relationship. If you had a girl who looked like a 13-year old Scarlett Johansson (or whoever you think comic Illyana looks like), the relationship would be MUCH more difficult to establish.

Were just going to have to agree to disagree on this one because I don't think that girl looks anything like Daniel and just because she is older and smaller does not guarantee that it will be any easier to establish a relationship between the two. For the record, I don't really think Scarlett would be a good choice either I'd rather go with an lesser know actress.

 

[ToriL90]

Were just going to have to agree to disagree on this one because I don't think that girl looks anything like Daniel and just because she is older and smaller does not guarantee that it will be any easier to establish a relationship between the two. For the record, I don't really think Scarlett would be a good choice either I'd rather go with an lesser know actress.

Take a close look at the comparative photo I have there. Both have brown hair, brown eyes, similar eye shape, and defined cheekbones (which might be a little harder for some people to notice on Cudmore, 'cause he also has a big jaw; but it's there). Those are plenty of similarities for a brother-sister pair.

I know it's no guarantee that the relationship will be well-established if Illyana has a different appearance. You can never guarantee that two actors will make a connection. I just think it would be a lot easier and would have a lot better chance of working with that kind of look.

Finally, I agree that Scarlett would be a rotten choice for Illyana. I just think that she looks a lot like the comic version.

We definitely agree on the lesser-known actress thing. In fact, if Anna were to take the role, she'd be making her acting debut here. She's actually a singer-songwriter whose 2005 debut album, Wreck of the Day, has sold 6-700,000 copies, and who is best known for her hit single, Breathe(2AM). She's somewhat unknown in the music industry, and completely unknown in the acting industry.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Take a close look at the comparative photo I have there. Both have brown hair, brown eyes, similar eye shape, and defined cheekbones (which might be a little harder for some people to notice on Cudmore, 'cause he also has a big jaw; but it's there). Those are plenty of similarities for a brother-sister pair.

I know it's no guarantee that the relationship will be well-established if Illyana has a different appearance. You can never guarantee that two actors will make a connection. I just think it would be a lot easier and would have a lot better chance of working with that kind of look.

Finally, I agree that Scarlett would be a rotten choice for Illyana. I just think that she looks a lot like the comic version.

We definitely agree on the lesser-known actress thing. In fact, if Anna were to take the role, she'd be making her acting debut here. She's actually a singer-songwriter whose 2005 debut album, Wreck of the Day, has sold 6-700,000 copies, and who is best known for her hit single, Breathe(2AM). She's somewhat unknown in the music industry, and completely unknown in the acting industry.

I honestly don't see the comparison there...I have brown hair, brown eyes and a defined cheekbone but look nothing like Cudmore. Actually looking alike is a moot point because they aren't related anyways (the actors that is), and its difficult to always find two people who look alike enough to appear to be siblings. Illyana has blond hair and blue eyes and I would like for them to get an actress that has such, especially sense its early on in the game.

 

[ToriL90]

Actually looking alike is a moot point because they aren't related anyways (the actors that is),

But they're playing siblings, so it's not moot.

and its difficult to always find two people who look alike enough to appear to be siblings.

Not really. At least in my opinion, Anna and Dan look similar enough to play siblings. You don't have to find virtual clones to play regular old 50%-identical-chromosomes siblings. Now, identical twins are a different story.

Illyana has blond hair and blue eyes and I would like for them to get an actress that has such, especially sense its early on in the game.

I respect your opinion, but I disagree. I think it's a bad idea to have Illyana look that much different from Poitr, given their relationship. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it if Illyana were to have a big role in the movie - actually, I'd probably agree with you in that case - because then there would be plenty of time to do the extra work that would go into setting up their relationship without the visual aid I think Anna would bring to the table. But, like I said, I want Illyana in only a couple of scenes, so I think that casting a shorter actress who looks more like Daniel (I know they don't look identical; but you have to admit that brown hair, brown eyes, and the other features I mentioned makes Anna look a lot more like Dan's sister than somebody with blond hair and blue eyes, and without the other features) would be very beneficial to her character.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

But they're playing siblings, so it's not moot.

Not really. At least in my opinion, Anna and Dan look similar enough to play siblings. You don't have to find virtual clones to play regular old 50%-identical-chromosomes siblings. Now, identical twins are a different story.

I respect your opinion, but I disagree. I think it's a bad idea to have Illyana look that much different from Poitr, given their relationship. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it if Illyana were to have a big role in the movie - actually, I'd probably agree with you in that case - because then there would be plenty of time to do the extra work that would go into setting up their relationship without the visual aid I think Anna would bring to the table. But, like I said, I want Illyana in only a couple of scenes, so I think that casting a shorter actress who looks more like Daniel (I know they don't look identical; but you have to admit that brown hair, brown eyes, and the other features I mentioned makes Anna look a lot more like Dan's sister than somebody with blond hair and blue eyes, and without the other features) would be very beneficial to her character.

I respect where your coming from but I do not agree that its necessary to cast her with brown hair and brown eyes. It's the little details that matter a lot when bringing these characters to the screen and I'd like it better if Illyana was younger and has blond hair.

I have dark hair my brother has almost dirty blond hair and we favor each other quite a lot. Having the same hair tone doesn't mean you look a like and that girl looks no more like Daniel than Anna Paquin or Ellen Page does.
Luke and Owen Wilson are celebrity siblings that look very much alike but hair different hair colors, so I don't get why you think people need matching hair colors so much.

I'm not trying to be mean and I like the debate but for such a small character that mostly comic fans are going to recognize, I think its best to keep her close to her comic counterpart. I don't want Daniel calling some 18 yr old snowflake!!!

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Personally,i think there should have been a bit more of Colossus in the films.

 

[ToriL90]

I respect where your coming from but I do not agree that its necessary to cast her with brown hair and brown eyes. It's the little details that matter a lot when bringing these characters to the screen and I'd like it better if Illyana was younger and has blond hair.

I have dark hair my brother has almost dirty blond hair and we favor each other quite a lot. Having the same hair tone doesn't mean you look a like and that girl looks no more like Daniel than Anna Paquin or Ellen Page does.
Luke and Owen Wilson are celebrity siblings that look very much alike but hair different hair colors, so I don't get why you think people need matching hair colors so much.

They don't need matching hair colors, but my main point is that the comic version looks nothing like her brother. I think another reason I just like a brown-haired Illyana better for X4 is that brown hair is more understated, and I want her character to be kind of "in the shadow" of her older brother. In fact, she'll be a cure patient who took the cure as an attempt to get out from under his shadow - only, the cure turns out to be ineffective, so she gets her powers back and returns to him. This is, I know, a little deviated from their comic book relationship, but I think it would be more interesting and it certainly would have its roots in the comic (its branches might grow out a little, though ).

I'm not trying to be mean and I like the debate

Hey, I love a nice, friendly debate about this kind of thing. Don't worry about offending me.

but for such a small character that mostly comic fans are going to recognize, I think its best to keep her close to her comic counterpart. I don't want Daniel calling some 18 yr old snowflake!!!

It's actually because non-comic fans won't recognize her as well that I think it's relatively safe to experiment with her look. It's not like they haven't tried makeovers with success before: They made Wolverine tall and handsome (by most standards, though I never got the attraction), got rid of Nightcrawler's fur and gave him all those Catholic markings, made Mystique scalely and naked, made Callisto sexy, and even cast brown-haired Aaron Stanford to play Pyro. Of course, Stanford did go blonde in the next movie. Who knows? Maybe my Illyana could go blonde in X5?

 

[MoPlaYa]

I heart this thread

 

[IcemanAUS85]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSX85hulIs

 

[IcemanAUS85]

dose anybody know of a site or email to get in contact with cudmore?:heart:

 

[IcemanAUS85]

Do you think he will bother to put on a Russian accent

I dont see why he would put on a germen actcent.
Pyro was made out to be Amarican in the moves when he is from Australia in the comics.

 

[MoPlaYa]

dose anybody know of a site or email to get in contact with cudmore?:heart:

look him up on myspace.com

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Daniel's myspace.......
He usually responds if he isnt busy and is a very cool guy.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cf...&MyToken=e86a1b28-1123-42f8-a987-81a00dfe326a

 

[Angamb]

anything interesting he has said?

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I posted it a few pages back but I haven't talked to him recently as I did not want to invade on his person space.

 

[MoPlaYa]

I wonder if he has any acting projects coming up soon

 

[Crimson Warrior]

He doing stunt work I believe I guess we'll know soon enough if he does something more acting wise

 

[ToriL90]

Two looks for Illyana Rasputin:

wanted brown-haired Illyana when I thought she'd have a smaller role in my script (read the last page or two if you want to know more), but as I've been continuing to write it, I realized that she actually has a decent role, so I'm reconsidering.

 

[MoPlaYa]

Hopefully Daniel is taking some acting lessons in his spare time, so if Fox does make X4 he will have some speaking parts

 

[ToriL90]

Am I the only one that can't see my blond-hair manip in my last post?

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Nope I cant see it either

 

[MoPlaYa]

I can